Battery life appt. w/ Genius tomorrow

[RDM3]

I drained mine over the weekend down to 5%.

Today I have 40 mins usage and 5 hours 36 mins standby and still at 100%

wifi, bluetooth, LTE, some notifications, 2 push emails and 2 non-push emails, and I have been in the basement of the house all day which does not get the best signal with ATT. I have not made any calls though. I know last week I would have been down to 90% maybe by this time.

I would drain the battery and let it charge overnight.

I attached a screenshot before last nights charge.

UPDATE - Just went to 99% 5 hours and 50 mins and it has been on 2 bars.

 

[Tomb01]

Uncertain if it is a problem...

Not sure if this is a problem or not, but am definitely experiencing less battery duration than my iPhone 4. Am at 48% with only 2 hours 10 minutes of talk and 4 hours of standby. Guess that would equate to over 4 hours of talk, but that is substantially less than I ever had with my 4S.... Of course I check email and some web things during my calls, but that is not different than before, though I know that LTE may be part of that. A second issue seems to be that my Usage counter grows when I am not actually using the phone? During the time I started this post to now, the phone went from 2:10 usage to 2:27 usage? I did use photo stream to move the screen capture to my computer, and had to turn on wifi to do that....

 

[rufhausen]

Let it run down to zero and shut itself off. Then recharge. I did this and it's like having a whole new phone. Battery was terrible, now it's great.

This does work. I did it twice (unintentional the 2nd time) and it made a huge difference.

 

[GenderFi]

Well, I'm getting around the same battery life as I did with the previous phone. I am sorry if I came off as bragging about my batter life, I never meant for it to be that way. 5 hours and 19 minutes of usage; 5 hours and 55 minutes of standby yielding 37%. It did take forever for it to drop to 99% after the initial charge, about almost and hour of usage and standby. Since then dropped as normal. I had tested using WiFi and LTE on roaming around in the city and stationary as well. Streaming Pandora in the background using both WiFi and LTE. Even played some tap to wait game here and there, a little browsing, e-mails and maps. I'm completely satisfied with the battery life so far and have no reason to complain. I know I didn't have any reason to complain in the first place but knowing me having the replacement phone and having ran this test puts peace to mind. This is just the way I am.

 

[arliu]

So I have an appointment with an Apple Genius tomorrow to have my iPhone 5 battery checked out. On average I usually can get around 6-8 hours of usage and half-day to full day of standby from full charge. It can really fluctuate. I have full LTE, WiFi, no bluetooth, most location services and notifications off, push e-mail on, brightness turned way down w/ auto on. I have tried restoring from new and doesn't seem to make much difference if any at all. As of right now I'm at 5 hours 17 minutes usage and 7.5 hours of standby with battery at 24%. I have an eerie feeling they're just going to say its normal, get over it. Perhaps I'm overobsessing over it. Just wondering what you guys think would happen if I do go tomorrow?

So how did th appt go? Did they give you a replacement?

 

[GenderFi]

So how did th appt go? Did they give you a replacement?

Well, I went ahead to the appointment since I was going that direction anyway. I do know about the weak LTE signal causing battery issues and I can attest to that as where I work has weak LTE signal and drains the battery like crazy with little/no usage. I explained everything to him this morning and he basically said that it would be easier to replace the phone which he did. He did note of all the restore's I did and mentioned some program called "ASCD" that was causing memory issues/crashing? He asked me about it and I had no idea what that was. He came back with the small white replacement box, swapped the sim, erased my previous iPhone 5 and was on my way. On a side note he did inspect the black iPhone 5 replacement phone for scratches and even asked me if I wanted to inspect it myself which I did. Well, I guess time will tell, but I am not going back if I get those numbers as I mentioned previously.

Yes

 

[berniemakaveli]

Bad news for me.. I dropped my phone today which resulted in a pretty deep nick in the aluminum bezel on the top left corner, if I brought my phone in for a replacement because of the battery will they tell me I'm shoot out of luck?

 

[GenderFi]

Bad news for me.. I dropped my phone today which resulted in a pretty deep nick in the aluminum bezel on the top left corner, if I brought my phone in for a replacement because of the battery will they tell me I'm shoot out of luck?

Good question but my guess is no. If they see a scratch they'll probably question you about it. But I could be completely wrong. Worth a try though!

 

[arliu]

Good question but my guess is no. If they see a scratch they'll probably question you about it. But I could be completely wrong. Worth a try though!

That's actually why I asked. My fiancé's phone slipped and has a dent. She did have battery issues though.

 

[johndallas999]

So I have an appointment with an Apple Genius tomorrow to have my iPhone 5 battery checked out. On average I usually can get around 6-8 hours of usage and half-day to full day of standby from full charge. It can really fluctuate. I have full LTE, WiFi, no bluetooth, most location services and notifications off, push e-mail on, brightness turned way down w/ auto on. I have tried restoring from new and doesn't seem to make much difference if any at all. As of right now I'm at 5 hours 17 minutes usage and 7.5 hours of standby with battery at 24%. I have an eerie feeling they're just going to say its normal, get over it. Perhaps I'm overobsessing over it. Just wondering what you guys think would happen if I do go tomorrow?

1 vote for "overobsessing" here.

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Bad news for me.. I dropped my phone today which resulted in a pretty deep nick in the aluminum bezel on the top left corner, if I brought my phone in for a replacement because of the battery will they tell me I'm shoot out of luck?

Nah, just tell them it was dented out of the box. They don't care esp with all the damaged units they're seeing.

 

[Blorzoga]

Well, I'm getting around the same battery life as I did with the previous phone. I am sorry if I came off as bragging about my batter life, I never meant for it to be that way. 5 hours and 19 minutes of usage; 5 hours and 55 minutes of standby yielding 37%. It did take forever for it to drop to 99% after the initial charge, about almost and hour of usage and standby. Since then dropped as normal. I had tested using WiFi and LTE on roaming around in the city and stationary as well. Streaming Pandora in the background using both WiFi and LTE. Even played some tap to wait game here and there, a little browsing, e-mails and maps. I'm completely satisfied with the battery life so far and have no reason to complain. I know I didn't have any reason to complain in the first place but knowing me having the replacement phone and having ran this test puts peace to mind. This is just the way I am.

So apparently what everyone is saying is that 5-6 hours of usage is normal, when Apple advertises Up to 8 hours? All I know is that I use my iphone 5 in the same manner as I did my iphone 4 and the battery DEFINITELY drains more quickly. I've already been to see a genius who ran a diagnostic and determined that the battery was normal. He did agree that there was something that was draining the battery abnormally. He suggested a "restore as new", which I did, but the battery life has not improved. I'm beginning to wonder whether it might be a matter of battery percentage calibration. Many, including myself, have noticed that the first and last percentages of life seem to last much longer than the in betweens. I seem to notice that the lower the battery charge, the faster it drops. In fact, I left my office last week for a 5 minute drive to the Apple store and in that short time span, the battery dropped from 20% - 15% and I was hardly using it at all.

I've made another appointment for tomorrow, but based on the OP in this thread, a replacement won't help. I just wish Apple would release an iOS update already to address this problem.

 

[ccwestcliff]

Had a kind of heureka experience last weekend: I have my iPhone 5 since release day (US) now and so far was really pleased as with medium usage I still have more than 40% left after a normal office day while my HTC One X didn't survive a day under normal conditions.
I spent last weekend away and used some tourism guides etc and one morning the battery drained from 100% to about 50% within 3 hours (7-10am that was). I closed all apps manually and figured that one of the apps must have been programmed badly as it continued to run in the background with a high battery usage (whatever it was - data or GPS or both).
After closing all apps and only using maps, mail and web from time to time my battery usage returned to normal.
So my recommendation would be to check what apps are installed and ideally restore the phone to new and be careful with apps that use data and location and have in-app ads.
Today, back in the office so far I have about 8hrs Standby and about 2hrs of Usage and still 59% battery left - this is what was normal for me in the last two weeks.

And OMG: I just checked my cellular network data and received more than 1GB only last weekend! Given that I don't really use iCloud, where must have been something seriously wrong!

 

[maximus96]

my black ip5 is similar to the OP, 5-6 hours usage and about 10-12 hr standby with around 1% left... last night i looked at my wife's white ip5 and it showed 5hr usage, about 12hr standby, and about 47% left...i restored both phones from 4S backups...i'm putting off restoring as new as I don't want to go thru setting up all the email accounts...somehow her battery life is way better than mine

 

[GenderFi]

So apparently what everyone is saying is that 5-6 hours of usage is normal, when Apple advertises Up to 8 hours? All I know is that I use my iphone 5 in the same manner as I did my iphone 4 and the battery DEFINITELY drains more quickly. I've already been to see a genius who ran a diagnostic and determined that the battery was normal. He did agree that there was something that was draining the battery abnormally. He suggested a "restore as new", which I did, but the battery life has not improved. I'm beginning to wonder whether it might be a matter of battery percentage calibration. Many, including myself, have noticed that the first and last percentages of life seem to last much longer than the in betweens. I seem to notice that the lower the battery charge, the faster it drops. In fact, I left my office last week for a 5 minute drive to the Apple store and in that short time span, the battery dropped from 20% - 15% and I was hardly using it at all.

I've made another appointment for tomorrow, but based on the OP in this thread, a replacement won't help. I just wish Apple would release an iOS update already to address this problem.

I noted in my previous post that I did get 5-6 hours with 37% left, so I'm happy with that. Ironically I was only able to get 5 hours and 44 minutes usage and 10 hours of standby on a fully charged battery today at work. I was flip flopping between 4G and LTE as usual 1-3 bars and heavy usage as well. So I would call that normal.

The only thing I can think of is if there is some program that you are using that is constantly running in the background and/or low cell signal like how mine is at work. The restore from new would benefit some users I think, not much for me because I regulate my settings pretty well and don't have many programs, so I didn't see much improvement. There really is a lot of variables at play. The appointment with the genius again wouldn't hurt. Try to see if you can pinpoint certain things you can think of that would drain your battery that fast. I know with mine it was those tap to wait games and the flip flop of networks. Good luck to you!

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my black ip5 is similar to the OP, 5-6 hours usage and about 10-12 hr standby with around 1% left... last night i looked at my wife's white ip5 and it showed 5hr usage, about 12hr standby, and about 47% left...i restored both phones from 4S backups...i'm putting off restoring as new as I don't want to go thru setting up all the email accounts...somehow her battery life is way better than mine

This is what I got today at work, see my immediate previous post. Another thing I thought of is I take the subway and there's constant signal in and out, I'm sure that uses quite a bit of battery. Another solution I've heard but have not tried yet is restore just the settings. I may try that tonight.

 

[GenderFi]

Quick update, I let my battery drain yesterday and charged it back up to 100% around 7p last night. Let it completely idle with no wifi, LTE on about 3-4 bars, mail push on. Dropped 10% overnight the next morning at around 6a. I'm not sure if that's normal or not.

 

[netnothing]

Quick update, I let my battery drain yesterday and charged it back up to 100% around 7p last night. Let it completely idle with no wifi, LTE on about 3-4 bars, mail push on. Dropped 10% overnight the next morning at around 6a. I'm not sure if that's normal or not.

I think Apple needs to tweak iOS6. With my AT&T iPhone 5, I lose anywhere from 4-6% overnight. I have WiFi on, LTE is on (but I'm not in an LTE area), no push emails, typically anywhere from 3-4 bars.

-Kevin

 

[BFizzzle]

I think Apple needs to tweak iOS6. With my AT&T iPhone 5, I lose anywhere from 4-6% overnight. I have WiFi on, LTE is on (but I'm not in an LTE area), no push emails, typically anywhere from 3-4 bars.

-Kevin

tweak the iOS because you have LTE on when its not needed?
you do realize its going to be searching for LTE from time to time when you are out of LTE service?

 

[netnothing]

tweak the iOS because you have LTE on when its not needed?
you do realize its going to be searching for LTE from time to time when you are out of LTE service?

Yup....why, because for 2 charge cycles I kept LTE off....with ZERO changes. Still lost 4-6% overnight.

All of this includes doing a Reset All Settings which did help the battery life immensely from the initial iCloud restore.


-Kevin

 

[GenderFi]

This makes me wonder if the signal automatically downgrades to 3G or EDGE when the iPhone 5 is in standby mode (not do not disturb).

 

[GenderFi]

So I called Applecare and explained to her the situation more specifically about loosing 10% of idle overnight last night. She sent me some sort of diagnostic profile and installed it and was told to continue using the phone as normal. A tech will get back to me after 48 hours and see if they can troubleshoot it just from the stats being recorded. Hopefully they'll find whatever it is that is causing battery strain. She did state that loosing 10% overnight idle is not normal. Will keep y'all updated.

 

[GenderFi]

Well, for the first time I did a "reset all settings" and I think it helped quite tremendously so far! I let my iPhone on standby overnight and got through 9 hours without it dropping 1%! Of course as soon as I picked up iPhone and started playing intense games and pandora it went down about 13% in about an hour. I am at work and it has suprisingly been stuck at 87% standby though for about an hour now, about 2 bars of LTE. Well I'm sure the logs will capture anything that I've been doing and AppleCare will get back with me tomorrow to further troubleshoot.

 

[netnothing]

tweak the iOS because you have LTE on when its not needed?
you do realize its going to be searching for LTE from time to time when you are out of LTE service?

Yup....why, because for 2 charge cycles I kept LTE off....with ZERO changes. Still lost 4-6% overnight.

All of this includes doing a Reset All Settings which did help the battery life immensely from the initial iCloud restore.


-Kevin

Ok so decided to do another test based on your response....so last night I charged the phone to 100% and turned LTE off. Well this time my phone lasted all night at 100%.

What's funny is like I said before I did this same test previously and LTE on or off it didn't matter. Not sure why now with this test it does. I'm going to run my battery down and charge it up again tonight and do the same test again.

I don't live in an LTE area.....not a low signal LTE area.....no LTE. So I'm a little surprised that even having LTE on would cause the phone to lose 4-6% overnight. How much can the radio really be doing?

-Kevin

 

[GenderFi]

Ok so decided to do another test based on your response....so last night I charged the phone to 100% and turned LTE off. Well this time my phone lasted all night at 100%.

What's funny is like I said before I did this same test previously and LTE on or off it didn't matter. Not sure why now with this test it does. I'm going to run my battery down and charge it up again tonight and do the same test again.

I don't live in an LTE area.....not a low signal LTE area.....no LTE. So I'm a little surprised that even having LTE on would cause the phone to lose 4-6% overnight. How much can the radio really be doing?

-Kevin

I really think this has to do with how the software is designed. I think it is constatntly searching for an LTE signal even though you don't have LTE out there. I could be wrong though.

I'm actually going to the beach this weekend, where there's no LTE. I'll run some tests out there myself w/ LTE switched on and off overnight and see if I get the same results.

 

[netnothing]

I really think this has to do with how the software is designed. I think it is constatntly searching for an LTE signal even though you don't have LTE out there. I could be wrong though.

I'm actually going to the beach this weekend, where there's no LTE. I'll run some tests out there myself w/ LTE switched on and off overnight and see if I get the same results.

Well I guess if we look at the numbers, Apple claims that the iPhone 5 can get

Standby time: Up to 225 hours

So assuming the best case scenario.....if we divide 100% / 225 we get 0.444% lost per hour. That means that in an 8 hour period, you should at best lose 3.5%.

My overnight is usually taking the phone off the charger at 10p and looking at it again around 7a.....so that's 9 hours.

Using the best case math from Apple, 9 hours = 4%.

So we all know best case scenarios with cell phone usually don't happen, you usually don't have full bars, nothing running etc. So I guess seeing 4-6% loss overnight is normal.

Now, why that seems to JUST be the LTE radio is odd to me. Turning that off last night resulted in almost no loss.....in reality it was probably like 1% since not long after I started using the phone it dropped to 99%.


-Kevin

 

[GenderFi]

Well I guess if we look at the numbers, Apple claims that the iPhone 5 can get

Standby time: Up to 225 hours

So assuming the best case scenario.....if we divide 100% / 225 we get 0.444% lost per hour. That means that in an 8 hour period, you should at best lose 3.5%.

My overnight is usually taking the phone off the charger at 10p and looking at it again around 7a.....so that's 9 hours.

Using the best case math from Apple, 9 hours = 4%.

So we all know best case scenarios with cell phone usually don't happen, you usually don't have full bars, nothing running etc. So I guess seeing 4-6% loss overnight is normal.

Now, why that seems to JUST be the LTE radio is odd to me. Turning that off last night resulted in almost no loss.....in reality it was probably like 1% since not long after I started using the phone it dropped to 99%.


-Kevin

I am not sure why its LTE that is giving us problems. The previous night I ran the same overnight test with just LTE on, and not only did it drop 10%, there was about an hour of usage which I knew something was up. So I reset all settings the following morning and overnight the next night not 1% dropped with only about 14 minutes of usage. This is why I was thinking it may have to deal with the settings, but I'm going to try again tonight to see what number I get. I'm still leaning towards software issues or perhaps programs that have not yet been optimized for the iPhone 5?