What are you trying to do, a parody of the Red Queen?
I know this is satire, but I'm not getting the reference.
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BBC Documentary Claims Apple Fails to Protect Chinese Factory Workers
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What are you trying to do, a parody of the Red Queen?
I know this is satire, but I'm not getting the reference.
That's exactly what my eight year old said.
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And I'll bet you make only $10 a day too!! Poor, poor physicians!!
Replace Apple with Samsung in this piece and this comments thread would be entirely different. Biased much?
Little doubt Panorama will have sensationalised it though, go back 15 years and it wasn't nearly as knee jerk and exhibited a little more journalistic integrity.
Little doubt Panorama will have sensationalised it though, go back 15 years and it wasn't nearly as knee jerk and exhibited a little more journalistic integrity.
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Get you facts right
The BBC is established under a Royal Charter[6] and operates under its Agreement with the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.[7] Its work is funded principally by an annual television licence fee[8] which is charged to all British households, companies, and organisations using any type of equipment to receive live television broadcasts.[9] The fee is set by the British Government, agreed by Parliament,[10] and used to fund the BBC's extensive radio, TV, and online services covering the nations and regions of the UK. From 1 April 2014 it also funds the BBC World Service, which provides comprehensive TV, radio, and online services in Arabic, and Persian, and broadcasts in 28 languages. Around a quarter of BBC revenues come from its commercial arm BBC Worldwide Ltd. which sells BBC programmes and services internationally and also distributes the BBC's international 24-hour English language news services BBC World News and BBC.com, provided by BBC Global News Ltd.
Ok. I just hate petty scraps.
Just for clarity, unpaid internships are perfectly fine, but bashing a company for paying its workers too little when they continue to work there voluntarily, while using unpaid interns to assemble that attack is a bit absurd.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...BBC-says-its-6000-interns-have-no-rights.html
Get you facts right
The BBC is established under a Royal Charter[6] and operates under its Agreement with the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.[7] Its work is funded principally by an annual television licence fee[8] which is charged to all British households, companies, and organisations using any type of equipment to receive live television broadcasts.[9] The fee is set by the British Government, agreed by Parliament,[10] and used to fund the BBC's extensive radio, TV, and online services covering the nations and regions of the UK. From 1 April 2014 it also funds the BBC World Service, which provides comprehensive TV, radio, and online services in Arabic, and Persian, and broadcasts in 28 languages. Around a quarter of BBC revenues come from its commercial arm BBC Worldwide Ltd. which sells BBC programmes and services internationally and also distributes the BBC's international 24-hour English language news services BBC World News and BBC.com, provided by BBC Global News Ltd.
I guess you copied and pasted the above without actually reading it.
The British government does NOT fund the BBC.
The British government does set the licence fee charge as it's effectively another form of compulsory taxation but they don't contribute towards it. The fee is paid by every household in the UK.
Yawn. It's about ratings. The BBC doesn't really care about Chinese factory workers any more than most of the people posting here.
I would trust their word over a money grabbing corporation or YOU
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Stop talking rubbish I doubt you even watched the documentary
Yeah I do agree with you there. As others here have pointed out as well, Apple has set themselves up for criticism by playing the saint. And it seems the likes of Pegatron are taking full advantage.
Adding "Yawn" to your reply is very arrogant and I thought you were better than that.
I realise it's difficult for Americans to understand the concept of public service broadcasting where not everything is about ratings.
How sad it must be to have such a cynical outlook on life. The BBC does care about those Chinese workers and if like me you routinely watched the BBC every day you would appreciate that some journalists are in it to expose the truth rather than chase ratings.
lol
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The documentary also highlighted that Apple does not directly buy tin ore from the Indonesian Island because theres no way of knowing where it gets distributed once piped through. Its all very skewed.
More lies the British citizens fund the bbc and its 2014 but if you want to get like that shall we mention native Americans and African Americans ?
And they were not death camps they were the first concentration camps
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It's obvious the bbc have researched this a damn sight more then the angry Americans on here have researched the bbc
Wow, I can't imagine people have mandatory overtime. Can you imagine a 12 hour work day. Sounds like slavery. One day they too will go to a 32 hour work week and all will be blissfully beautiful in a comfortable utopia that all of humanity are intitled to.
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I second that Yawn.
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I second that Yawn.
What's really disgusting is that some folk believe shooting the messenger is the adoption of the moral high ground.
No one here is saying that working long hours is inhumane in and of itself. There's nothing wrong with working over 40 hours a week, so long as you're being compensated for it.
I don't buy Nike
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I was thinking the same. And most of these people would probably never survive these work conditions for a single day.
It;s just my observation that many Apple forums have a critical mass of social Darwinists, self-styled eugenics experts, Ayn Rand groupies, and those who have political beliefs somewhere to the right of Marie Antoinette.
I have no idea why this is so, but let's just say if this convo took place in android forums it would be very different. Most hardcore android enthusiasts are for whatever reason very liberal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVaTl2kW6YU
I have no idea why this is so, but let's just say if this convo took place in android forums it would be very different. Most hardcore android enthusiasts are for whatever reason very liberal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVaTl2kW6YU
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My father was a medic and for weeks in a row he had to work 60 or more hours... And he worked with a LOT more delicate material...
Heck... I'm a Web Designer and in some months i work every freaking weeks a lot more than 60 hours... Including full weekends. I've fallen asleep on my desk many times... Can someone please call BBC?
It's not uncommon in our ocidental society for people to work 10-12-14 hours per day...
This is their job, no one forces them to be there... They are not slaves. And it has to be put down to perspective... And that perspective can be achieved by asking a simple question: Why they don't leave? And most of the times, the answer is because it would be a LOT hard to find better... Plus you cannot achieve that perspective when comparing 2 very different cultures and try to make them work the same way.. That will not happen.
And this is no different from Samsung, Nike, and many other brands...
Heck... I'm a Web Designer and in some months i work every freaking weeks a lot more than 60 hours... Including full weekends. I've fallen asleep on my desk many times... Can someone please call BBC?
It's not uncommon in our ocidental society for people to work 10-12-14 hours per day...
This is their job, no one forces them to be there... They are not slaves. And it has to be put down to perspective... And that perspective can be achieved by asking a simple question: Why they don't leave? And most of the times, the answer is because it would be a LOT hard to find better... Plus you cannot achieve that perspective when comparing 2 very different cultures and try to make them work the same way.. That will not happen.
And this is no different from Samsung, Nike, and many other brands...
While Apple (and every other company) should make every effort to demand fair conditions at companies that undertake contracted work for them, I don't believe they are responsible for policing these OTHER companies.
I'm sure many on their legal team put in much longer hours. Perhaps that should be the focus?
I'm sure many on their legal team put in much longer hours. Perhaps that should be the focus?
It's a realistic answer. Be honest: if Apple were completely forcing the issue, there would be no end to the cries of how they are abusing their power and they don't have the right to run other companies, even if it's for a noble purpose. As I said, they can apply pressure, which they are apparently doing. But they do need to engage in something of a balancing act, so they can work toward improving conditions while still getting the product out (which a large number of people depend on for their livelihood, not only factory workers), and not completely alienating their suppliers. It's willfully ignorant to think that in the real world, you can get ideal results immediately. Let's see how things are going a few years from now.
--Eric
Does BBC know Pegatron is a Taiwanese company which went to mainland China to set up factories? Does BBC know Taiwan think itself more advanced than mainland China? So instead of blaming China/Chinese government/Apple, why can't BBC get in touch with a Pegatron executive and ask questions and let use know the answers? So I think BBC has other hidden motives. It really does not care Chinese workers. This is what I have observed of the western media over the years. They are not honest. They are really evil in themselves.