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Well, maybe I'm wrong on this, but if you were trying to pitch these to higher end audio users, you might not want to leave non-apple users feeling marginalized? I've no idea, but I'm just wondering if sticking apple proprietary stuff on the higher end (and higher margin?) stuff, would maybe drive users away? Otherwise not sure what the rationale might be

Yup, that's exactly it. I'm sure they sell Beats to all walks of life, using all types of devices..more than Apple users...
 
I'm mostly excited about that Canadian exchange rate.

$350USD = $433CAD

Hopefully this means a drop in price for AirPods and Apple Watch following the September event.

Same goes for European pricing.
This time it’s 1:1
Good sign for the iPhone, hopefully it’s not 200€ extra as it has been, since the euro - dollar conversion is 1.19 which is exactly the German VAT :D
Now I’m definitely excited haha
 
I think I just commented about 30 minutes ago that I'd like the W1 licensed to third parties so we could get things like decent noise canceling. I was thinking Bose but this is something. I'm a bit pessimistic about Beats doing noise canceling correctly but I'll try it.

edit: I wish the white didn't have gold trim. Oh well, off to order a set...

edit 2: still not using lightning to charge though, come on Apple. Or at least go USB C.

I think the main reason for still using MicroUSB is not potentially alienating users of other mobile OS' but more than Lightning doesn't have a fast or rapid charging as of yet. Apple best be getting on that pronto!!
 
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Will the ANC give beeping sounds like the over ear headphones of Beats? I know those are older headphones but still.

That beeping sound gives headaches.

Not: Beeping sound appears when there is no music
 
Don't bother with these. Get the Bose QuietComfort 35 instead.
Poor recommendation.

Don't bother with the Bose Quiet Comfort 35. Buy the Sony MDR-1000X instead.
So, you've never heard these, but you are recommending against them? The QC35's are great, but keep an open mind. For example, the Sony MDR 1000X are rated as having better noise cancelling and better sound by most reviewers. They also have a lot more features. Beats, Sony and others are now incorporating more technology improvements, such as customizing NC to one's environment.
Sennheiser's PXC-550 (and it's "business brother" PXC-660) does this already. In fact, it was my choice last year when I tested the Bose QC-35 vs. Sony MDR-1000X vs. Sony MDR-100ABN vs. Sennheiser PXC-550:
  • Bose was most comfortable and had superb NC, but horrible sound. Bass is too soft and imprecise. Buttons for operation are rather big - good for operation, bad for looks. The buttons are too close and of the same size, which makes it a bit more fiddly to use them.
  • Sony MDR-100ABN was feeling heavy on the head, which - together with hard ear cushion - made them less comfortable, with mediocre NC, but good sound. Single-axis folding still leaves it rather bulky and operation a tad confusing due to various buttons instead of touch control (like with the MDR-1000X or the PXC-550). Liked the can design and the intense colors. And it was the most inexpensive.
  • Sony MDR-1000X was still not as comfortable as the Bose, had good sound and NC, but build quality was a bit lacking. Plus the lack of user-servicing (battery, ear cushions - Sony requires you to have those done by an authorized service center, which is costly and time-consuming). Folds flat nicely due to 2-axis folding. Touch control is nice, as is the "eavesdropping" via external mics. Did not like the design that much, though. The "leathery" cover of the cans made it feel a bit tacky to me.
  • Sennheiser PXC-550 was nearly as comfortable as the Bose, was very close in terms of NC (which is variable and can be adjusted in a companion app, together with adjustment of sound modes), offered a good sound and is user serviceable. Connetion to two devices is possible in parallel (unlike e.g. the Sony's), but that's not crucial for me. "Eavesdropping" as with the MDR-1000X. I also like the user interface via the touch pad in the right can (though you need to adjust to the required tapping speed) and I really(!) like the automatic on/off when folding/unfolding (which makes it nice and flat due to 2-axis folding). NC also works without BT connection (others like the MDR-1000X switch off automatically in that situation) and you can continue to listen while re-charging. In total, to me it offered the best package.
Those are wired.... and no noise canceling....:rolleyes:
From Sennheisers site
If going for Sennheiser wireless, take the PXC-550 (PXC-660), as argued above. Or - if you don't need good NC, but prefer superb sound, good build quality and classy looks, take a close look at the Momentum line. The HD1 edition seems to incorporate better NC, while keeping the Momentum's basic construction, but I did not listen to that set yet.

Sound wise, yeah you would NOT go Bose like ever. For ANC, definitely Bose is top tier, Sony is a little better with the 1000x. What Bose rains supreme on is the ANC + Comfort level for long hours. Good for long travels and study.
Comfort- and NC-wise, Sennheiser comes close with the PXC-550, which has far superior sound and better user interface (touch pad) than the Bose.
 
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i'm disappointed that apple keeps pushing wireless headphones and prides themselves on quality, but they still don't support things like aptX HD for higher quality audio...

still hoping this will change with the iphone8, but these headphones just made it more unlikely.

Read this:
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.androidauthority.com/aptx-hd-audio-codec-explained-789342/amp/
You're answer is very few products the vodec to non highly sensitive ears wil mean nothing because the source content wouldn't highlight any gains using the new codec: AAC or MP3 typical downloads or encoding is not 24-bit by default. I've been particularly coding my music in higher kHz as well as higher rates for playback. Sonys hiRes audio is already there. Qualcomm just full of themselves.

I prefer the Airpods too, I had a bad experience with large headphones not feeling comfortable. However I find it's a shame the Airpods battery wears so quickly and the fact they keep wasting battery if not inside that charger case. Also the volume could be improved, I always have to increase in the app I use (nPlayer).
 
I had the Wireless Solo3 and the audio quality was great. I hope its equal or even better then that headphone.
And that the beeping sound of ANC is fixed when there is no music on.
 
Beats is bottom of the barrel plastic Chinese made garbage.

Yeah, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. Maybe you're talking about the original Beats Solo or something. At any rate, you're objectively wrong.

SBC is a codec. AAC too. AptX another one. Much more efficient.

The fact is that Apple Music uses AAC and iTunes etc. encode to AAC by default. AAC may be worse than SBC and AptX (but I bet it isn't; AAC is generally rated among the best audio codecs for music at those bitrates, along with or better than Vorbis), but it would still mean transcoding, which is always bad. The complaint was that Beats don't support high quality audio, but they do.
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AAC or MP3 typical downloads or encoding is not 24-bit by default. I've been particularly coding my music in higher kHz as well as higher rates for playback.

There is really no benefit to 24bits. Audio DACs aren't precise enough for it to make a difference (the SNR is too low in the low bits). There is also absolutely no benefit to higher frequency, since ears can't hear above 20 kHz, and usually a fair bit below that, so a sample rate of more than twice that is wasted.

Both these are good for mixing.
 
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Why Micro USB ?

Is it more expensive to put Lighnting ? Isnt lightning faster for charging. I feel like Apple is going cheap on this.
 
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Honestly, after switching to bluetooth air plugs (currently Jaybird X3) I don't see myself ever going back to these big clunky things. For my commute and travel I want to scale down, kindle instead of book, plugs instead of phones, iPad instead of laptop, etc.

Im sure the soundscape is terrific but the bluetooth AirPods are getting pretty damn good now, the x3:s really took me by surprise with its sound quality.

Also I don't want to look like a teenager walking around town :)
 
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Perhaps it's just me, but I can't go back to wearing large headphones like this anymore. I find Bluetooth earbuds to be more convenient and compact enough where it meets my needs, even if that means the sound is not nearly as intense as the beats are. But I'm willing to take the trade-off between the two for battery life and portability.

Same for me.
I'd need noise cancellation during my commute since taking public transit means having to deal with a lot of people around me chatting all the time, but I find headphones to be really inconvenient. I like them at home, where I don't really need to be isolated since the environment is quite and I still want to hear my daughter if she cries.

I bought a pair of BeatsX some 4 months ago, and they're great for commute. They don't provide noise cancellation, but if I press them into my ear canal I can get a good sound isolation. Battery life is good, pairing is great thanks to the W1, reception is awesome. I can walk away from my desk while taking a phone call and get quite far before I start having signal problems. My Apple Watch gets disconnected well before my BeatsX do.
Of course you don't get the same quality while listening to music, but you have find a trade-off between sound quality and portability.
Plus, they charge via lighting. Beats is Apple now, I wonder why they keep releasing new products with micro usb
 
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With this new version we can turn Pure ANC off and get 40 hours of battery life.
--> meaning NO NOISE CANCELLATION

Bingo, I hate the noise cancellation it goes "bzzzzz" in my sensitive ears
 
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With this new version we can turn Pure ANC off and get 40 hours of battery life.
--> meaning NO NOISE CANCELLATION

Bingo, I hate the noise cancellation it goes "bzzzzz" in my sensitive ears

That is what im curious about. Will that "bzzzz" be fixed when you have no music on while ANC is on? That is so annoying.
 
I'll never buy beats headphones again after my earphones broke due to a weak design flaw and Apple refused to replace.
 
I'd need noise cancellation during my commute since taking public transit means having to deal with a lot of people around me chatting all the time, but I find headphones to be really inconvenient.
There are in-ear solutions with NC included, e.g. the Bose QC-20 (wired) and QC-30 (wireless). They don't provide as good a noise insulation as over-ears, so they don't reach the amounts of noise reduction that their bigger brethren can. But for small in-ears they seem to do astonishingly well. I can't stand having that silicon tips in my ear canals (and so far I also did not find any that would really fit), but you seem to be okay with it, so maybe you give the Bose's a try.
Plus, they charge via lighting. Beats is Apple now, I wonder why they keep releasing new products with micro usb
A product is not planned and developed over night. What gets released now, has probably started as project quite some time ago. Changing a product design gets costlier, the later in product development you take the decision. Plus, there are usually long-term contracts with suppliers and the traditional beats customers are used to Micro USB (remember the outcry when Apple changed from 30pin to Lightning?).

I'm sure Apple will eventually unify connectors between Apple and Beats. Just takes some more time.
 
Yeah no, Lightning won't happen. These aren't iOS-device exclusives and must work with Android/Windows Phone too. But yeah, Micro-USB is just horrible.

Errr, an android/windows owners could still CHARGE it with a USB-C to USB-A cable. A USB-C to USB-A cable (the headphones having a USB-C port) wouldn't make the headphones iOS-device exclusive.
The headphones don't come with a charger, you have to use your existing chargers. It's only inconvenient for iPhone users as we can't use our existing cables to charge the damn headphones. As BEATS is owned by Apple, I don't understand why Apple would choose to give this (small) inconvenience to Apple owners rather than Android/Windows owners.
 
Did I really read that correctly?? They're using micro-usb and not usb-c?? What idiots, zero respect for the future, this alone would make me never buy these, consumers have had to deal with crap long enough... trying to plug something in and having to even think about which side will actually go in. If Steve Jobs were alive, he would never let something even this little occur with Apple's name tied to it. On top of that, Beats headphones sound terrible, maybe this one will break that quality trend.
Look... Other than a couple of Sony bluetooth speakers and a Logitech mouse, all my hardware is Apple+beats. I'd gladly take Lightning on my Solo and PowerBeats. One less cable type to worry about. Great. K?

Having said that, please stop it with these drama queen antics and the wide-eyed, slack-jawed OMG reactions over micro-USB. Stop pretending you're gasping for air. Stop acting like it warrants a "did I read that correctly" with double question marks. Stop pretending it's sooo laughable and outrageous. Stop acting like it's a 9-pin serial port from the 80's. You know perfectly well that it's the standard connector on any non-Apple mobile devices and that it's not going anywhere for a while. Certainly not before the current Beats lineup has been replaced once or twice.
 
.... ooooooooor get the Sennheiser HD598 CS for $150 which blow these out of the water, throw them back in the water only to blow them out again. And you're saving $200.
Wired headphones with no ANC. Apples & oranges. And I think these new Beats sound much better than those Sennheis... oh wait, no one's heard them yet.
 
Check out the Sony 1000X (newest model: WH-1000XM2) as well. I chose the first generation one, the MDR-1000X over the Bose QC35 because it sounds a lot better, the noise cancellation is as good, and the build quality much better. The Bose is a tiny bit lighter (a lot more plastic parts), and along with a deeper ear muff hole, a little bit more comfortable.

I was close to making the Bose QC35 purchase until I saw this article. I have never had Beats, and now I am interested in checking these new Beats out in order to make the best choise. What makes you recommend the Bose headphones over the new Beats headphones?
 
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