We all knew how this would end, when it began...not sure what the point of the exercise was for this company?
I think cross service (e.g. between RCS implementations) e2e encryption is a fantasy. If you can't verify the endpoints, then it isn't e2ee. And without e2ee, integrating RCS into iMessage group chats becomes an issue.
As I've said, I'm not high on RCS as a solution.
Why? Why do they need to open up their intellectual property, that they spent millions of dollars creating, on a platform they created, to a third party platform that just wants to use it for free and didn’t contribute anything to its production?Attracting attention of legislators IS THE POINT.
If Apple isn't willing to open up the iMessage protocol on their own, they need to be forced to do it, either through the courts or with new legislation.
Why not just go all in and not allow iPhone users to call anyone but other iPhone users.Apple cares about Apple users as long as they use Apple hardware, software and services.
Apple's argument have always been that iMessage, being an Apple service is secure, while using SMS is insecure.
Apple doesn't car when Apple users have to communicate with Android or Windows users. nor should they. Apple should never help Apple users becoming better at communicating outside the Apple ecosystem.
Those iPhone users who care about security when it comes to short text messages to Android users, will be able to find a solution.
Why not just go all in and not allow iPhone users to call anyone but other iPhone users.
Logic fault.So you’re saying Android users also shouldn’t be sending emails to iCloud Mail addresses, for risk of overloading Apple’s servers? Yeah, that totally makes sense.
"In its latest effort to keep the service afloat, Beeper will suggest that users get hold of an old iPhone to get iMessage working on their Android phone. Users will then be asked to install a free Beeper tool to generate an iMessage registration code that will reinstate the ability to register phone numbers on the service. The catch is that the iPhone must first be jailbroken, and it must be kept plugged into power, at home, and connected to Wi-Fi for periodic registration re-requests."
You do realize that Beeper has gotten more free advertisement from this than they’ve invested in engineering this solution, right? There is a reason the didn’t put it in their fully fledged Beeper app.Why would an Android user care enough about iMessage to jump through all these hoops?
I get that Beeper's parent company is trying anything they can to keep their product alive, but it's pretty clear that any workarounds they do find will be short lived. Apple doesn't want it, so this product is already dead. At some point they are going to have to accept that reality instead of continuing to light their VC $$ on fire.
You do realize that Beeper has gotten more free advertisement from this than they’ve invested in engineering this solution, right? There is a reason the didn’t put it in their fully fledged Beeper app.
I'm all for iMessage being on Android. And it's awesome that Beeper tried. But they really need to quit while they are ahead. This will be a game of cat and mouse, and the cat always wins.
your words.I’m clearly a desperate and mindless Google sheep for wanting to try a new platform and not annoy my friends.
use what you want and not worry about your preference bothering anyone else.ome iPhone users want to try and use the other phone platform
In order to have feature/app parity between Android and IOS, Apple would have to "break" ios up entirely to be able to update each specific app that ties into iMessage thereby essentially fundamentally changing the very nature of IOS. Making it more akin to Android yes. That's common sense.Doesn’t mean that adding iMessage and Apple Cash to Android, suddenly turns iOS into Android.
Well apparently androids suck without iMessge. go figureguess Apple phones just suck without Facebook apps lmao
I think they stopped carrying about self-respect when they decided to go buy used mac minis and old iPhones just for blue bubbles lolNo self-respecting Android users would go through all those troubles.
You do realize that Beeper has gotten more free advertisement from this than they’ve invested in engineering this solution, right? There is a reason the didn’t put it in their fully fledged Beeper app.
I almost read this wrong lol. I was like when were they ever ahead lolIt’s already too late for them to quit while they are ahead.
You should read the beeper subreddit for the giggles. It literally has post after post on people buying used iPhones and older mac minis.How many people do they think will jailbreak an iPhone just to use their compromised service?
Well apparently androids suck without iMessge. go figure
Hey, are you the guy in the movie Titanic that said, "God himself could not sink this ship"?I created an account just to reply to this article. Whomever wrote it has an embarrassingly shallow understanding of how Beeper worked and likely iMessage as well. Those of you cheering it on are in the same boat (or, sinking ship).
Let's get you to understand the basics here. Your iPhone is the one using '90s-era technology to communicate with the rest of the world. You should be angry at Apple for purposely not keeping up with the latest technologies in order to keep you hostage, for which Beeper speculates is because Apple knows their product is not good enough by itself to keep you.
Non-iPhone users don't want to be on the iMessage platform anymore than you want us to (there are better, more interoperable systems available), but 50% of the U.S. is using it, and most of them are too naive or ignorant to realize the bubble color is their own fault, so to get the only ones whining about it to shut up, Beeper, AirMessage, BlueBubbles, SunBird, etc. will continue to be a thing.