Beginning to think there is a problem with iPhone 5

[Darthdingo]

Apple never gave any release date for the next iPhone, only hitting at "Fall" which doesn't start until September 21st and runs to December 21st. I bet there will be a brand new iPhone released by Apple between then.

Most are speculating a mid October release, means Apple doesn't need to announce it, until end of Sept / early Oct. I think they will still be on track to do just that.

Relax and wait...it is only September 6th. If it was October 6th and nothing announced yet, then maybe worry, but that is a month away, just chill...

 

[McGiord]

Just enjoy your iOS devices, complete you tasks and have fun with them.
What is what you like about them?
That they are the latest and greatest or what you actually do with them?

Apple will be better selling disposable underwear, to make you guys have a new one everyday.
iLingerie.

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Maybe Steve's health is delaying the release, he wants to be on stage.

Or they are having troubles:
- Obstacles to reach agreements with the carriers
- Supply base not capable to run the production rate/quality
- iCloud services are still not reliable (like MobileMe was)
- iTunes Match was too good to be true (content owners backed out)
- Design issues still not solved: like antenna interference, battery with issues

 

[Darthdingo]

If you running an iPhone3GS and need a new phone ASAP, get the new ATT Galaxy S2 September 18th, it is a HUGE upgrade compared to the 3GS and a great phone. And if you are on Verizon you are even luckier, you are getting the best phone ever released in the history of smartphones, the "Nexus-Prime" running Android 4.0 "Ice Cream".

Or just chill out and wait for the iPhone5, it is coming this "Fall"

 

[blesio]

I don't even care, I've got my iPhone 4 which I adore since iOS 5 and also my iPad 2 which is really cool also on the latest beta. All I need and all I want right now

 

[cyks]

Well yeah I agree, but then again this is an apple related rumors site so I mean its not that unreasonable for someone to post such a question. Why even read any of the rumors on here for that matter? Why not just wait for the official news to hit CNN?

No, it wouldn't be unreasonable for someone to ask... but when multiple threads are started questioning the iPhone 5's release daily, it does venture into unreasonable territory.

 

[blunti]

delay? As far as I'm concerned Apple never gave us a specific release date...

 

[mikejfrd]

No, it wouldn't be unreasonable for someone to ask... but when multiple threads are started questioning the iPhone 5's release daily, it does venture into unreasonable territory.

I agree. Both are equally annoying!!!

See above post for example

 

[accessoriesguy]

I think you are wrong. More likely scenario is that Apple saw an opportunity to extend product life with all the new Verizon subscribes and decided to wait and sell a bunch of iPhone 4 phones to those folks before releasing a new version a little later for everyone.

that's exactly what i've been thinking, sales have been holding up strong. Whats the point of ruining your own demand, let supply and demand do its thing. Either way the longer it takes, the more time they get to implement features.

Oh and we can't forget about iOS 5, i bet Apple wants to use that as it's strong point to make it different from any other available phone.

 

[Sedrick]

I'm pretty sure this is all due to iOS 5 GM not yet being released

I think this is half of it. The other half is Apple changing suppliers all summer long in an effort to produce the most inexpensive iPhone 4 update they can: I.E. maximize profit. My fear is that come release date (whenever the hell that is) we'll see a warmed over iPhone 4 (with new chip and camera only) with iOS5. Woopie.

 

[malnar]

My biggest concern isn't for the upcoming iPhone, whatever model name Apple wants to give it. It's for the next cycle. Will it be back to one year after that? Are we waiting until September-ish next year, or will it arrive early, back on the old schedule, in early summer? Or will they push it waaaaay back to 2013 (unlikely)?

As for the delay, think about this: what kind of splash does "just" an iPhone launch make? It's one product, it makes tech news for a few days, and that's it. But if they hold it back, they can pair it with EVERYTHING they've been promising this year - iCloud, iTunes In The Cloud/Match, etc. Now that is something big and it will extend beyond tech news. Plus they can launch all new versions of iPods with it that tie into the iCloud stuff.

Not to mention they're abandoning a form factor they likely dumped a bunch of r&d money into - they may be holding out for a very specified amount of time to recoup as much money as possible. I'm certain Apple, as of June 2010, had every intention of a standard, simple spec bump in order for this year's iPhone upgrade, but in light of the whole antennagate junk (whether you agree or not, it's a black eye) they opted to redesign from the ground up - what would have been next year's model is now this year's model, and they lost out on a year's worth of payback for all the r&d for the iPhone 4. Easy way to make that back is to just stretch the lifespan of the product.

 

[Darthdingo]

To me it comes down between the iPhone5 or Nexus-Prime, whichever phone offers the best features and design. Both the i5 and Prime will be the top dog phones for a long while, well into Summer 2012.

Only the iPhone6 and Galaxy S3 trumping them.

 

[Apple OC]

I hate to say it, but I am starting to doubt an iPhone announcement in September. I think there is much more to this delay then we think. And I think the delay is going to continue right through September with not so much as even an event date. I have no facts or sources, but my gut is telling me something is wrong. Maybe it's because it's the first day back to work after a holiday, or the fact the weather on the East Coast is miserable, or maybe a little of both. But my excitement is starting to turn toward frustration and doubt. The rumors, which I usually enjoy reading (no matter how rediculous) are becoming boring and frustrating. Something just isn't right. I'm starting to think there are problems...Problems that (in a worse case scenario) could make it a very Android Christmas.

I know it would KILL Apple to not relase an iPhone this year. But what do you think the possibilites are that this "doomsday scenario" could really happen? And does anyone agree that these delays could be far worse then what we imagined? I'm beginning to think Apple may be just as frustrated as we are.

One bright spot is that I think if iPhone 5 was plagued with major problems that was going to delay the release through the years end, we would have already seen, or at least heard about, a refreshed iPhone 4...Which they would almost certainly do if there was no chance for an iPhone 5 in 2011.

What do you all think?

A very Android Christmas? ... stop being so pessimistic ... the iPhone5 will be released soon.

 

[AdamskiUK]

My main issue...

I've been following the rumours like most, but my problem is also with the cycle.

Should I get this new iPhone this October (as I will if it's released), unless there's a brand new one available that Summer/October in the Autumn two years down the line I will almost definitely swap over to Android. I just wouldn't bother giving up the contract to wait until the year after to pick up a brand new phone. I'd almost certainly have to swap to HTC or Samsung for a brand-new handset, and unless they come out with a new OS, I'll be forced to join the Android crowd.

 

[Sedrick]

My biggest concern isn't for the upcoming iPhone, whatever model name Apple wants to give it. It's for the next cycle. Will it be back to one year after that? Are we waiting until September-ish next year, or will it arrive early, back on the old schedule, in early summer? Or will they push it waaaaay back to 2013 (unlikely)?

As for the delay, think about this: what kind of splash does "just" an iPhone launch make? It's one product, it makes tech news for a few days, and that's it. But if they hold it back, they can pair it with EVERYTHING they've been promising this year - iCloud, iTunes In The Cloud/Match, etc. Now that is something big and it will extend beyond tech news. Plus they can launch all new versions of iPods with it that tie into the iCloud stuff.

Not to mention they're abandoning a form factor they likely dumped a bunch of r&d money into - they may be holding out for a very specified amount of time to recoup as much money as possible. I'm certain Apple, as of June 2010, had every intention of a standard, simple spec bump in order for this year's iPhone upgrade, but in light of the whole antennagate junk (whether you agree or not, it's a black eye) they opted to redesign from the ground up - what would have been next year's model is now this year's model, and they lost out on a year's worth of payback for all the r&d for the iPhone 4. Easy way to make that back is to just stretch the lifespan of the product.

Well, we know at the very least, they'll keep using the same form/shell of the iPhone 4 as the lower end iPhones, so that design has plenty of life left in it.

I'd hate to jump on an iPhone 5 (that's a rehashed iPhone 4) and have a brand newly designed model come out 8 month later next June. That's why I won't get the iPhone 5 unless it's a new design.

 

[amzchhabra]

I work for Vodafone UK and I am able to summarise the following in relation to an upcoming Apple launch. Unfortunately I am unable to offer any further information due to having an NDA with both Vodafone and Apple:

- Apple have not confirmed finalised spec details or launch dates to us yet, only the provisional details that have been sent to all TelCo's.
- Announcement day and physical purchase availability day are now likely to be 2 different days.
- We are working towards an end of September announcement (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- We are working towards an early October physical purchase launch (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- A full refreshed (form and function) handset is to be launched, along with a secondary lower range (mild spec upgrade, lower GB capacity) handset.
- No assets (images) have been supplied to us from Apple yet.

Given the info for the iPhone 4 and the 3GS was given to us only a few days before launch, none of the above is unusual, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens again for this launch.

 

[Darthdingo]

I work for Vodafone UK and I am able to summarise the following in relation to an upcoming Apple launch. Unfortunately I am unable to offer any further information due to having an NDA with both Vodafone and Apple:

- Apple have not confirmed finalised spec details or launch dates to us yet, only the provisional details that have been sent to all TelCo's.
- Announcement day and physical purchase availability day are now likely to be 2 different days.
- We are working towards an end of September announcement (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- We are working towards an early October physical purchase launch (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- A full refreshed (form and function) handset is to be launched, along with a secondary lower range (mild spec upgrade, lower GB capacity) handset.
- No assets (images) have been supplied to us from Apple yet.

Given the info for the iPhone 4 and the 3GS was given to us only a few days before launch, none of the above is unusual, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens again for this launch.

That makes perfect sense, and why people just need to chill...it's coming.

 

[tomtom101]

I work for Vodafone UK and I am able to summarise the following in relation to an upcoming Apple launch. Unfortunately I am unable to offer any further information due to having an NDA with both Vodafone and Apple:

- Apple have not confirmed finalised spec details or launch dates to us yet, only the provisional details that have been sent to all TelCo's.
- Announcement day and physical purchase availability day are now likely to be 2 different days.
- We are working towards an end of September announcement (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- We are working towards an early October physical purchase launch (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- A full refreshed (form and function) handset is to be launched, along with a secondary lower range (mild spec upgrade, lower GB capacity) handset.
- No assets (images) have been supplied to us from Apple yet.

Given the info for the iPhone 4 and the 3GS was given to us only a few days before launch, none of the above is unusual, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens again for this launch.

Thanks for that mate... So is all that info for definite? And by we do you refer to the vodafone group or apple?

 

[shandyman]

I hate to say it, but I am starting to doubt an iPhone announcement in September. I think there is much more to this delay then we think. And I think the delay is going to continue right through September with not so much as even an event date................

there's no delay. If Apple had said they were going to release in July, then this would be a delay, but Apple said iOS5 will come out in Fall. Apple have a release time in mind. until they tell us the date, we have no idea if there's a delay......

I agree that this is taking too long.
If they release 1 new phone every 1.5 years and Android puts out like 5-6 new phones every month then that is not good for Apple IMO.

i'm pretty sure that this 1.5 year gap is a one off. i think basically they're lining up to release the iPod Touch with the iPhone, since they're pretty much the same tech released about 3 months apart, they end up repeating themselves, when they can do it all under one Keynote.

I'm pretty sure this is all due to iOS 5 GM not yet being released

See above, it's all tying in together IMO.

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I work for Vodafone UK and I am able to summarise the following in relation to an upcoming Apple launch.

so you're at the HQ in Newbury then?

 

[batting1000]

Probably not that great. lol

How can you say that? I think it was Sprints best selling phone / Android phone.

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I agree that this is taking too long.
If they release 1 new phone every 1.5 years and Android puts out like 5-6 new phones every month then that is not good for Apple IMO.

They have more than one phone manufacturer creating them. That's why there are many new Android devices per month. Apple is one company and they don't make hundreds of iPhone variations.

If Google teamed up with a phone manufacturer to make Google phones (aka the Nexus One and Nexus S) and those were the only Android phones available, you'd only have 2 Android devices. Android is an open source OS which makes it easier for phone manufacturers to make many devices running the same software as another variation.

Apple is exactly the opposite, which is why the iPhone is the only mobile phone that runs iOS.

 

[TSX]

The reason apple waited this long is simple, they want to have a strong 4th quarter sales. When does the 4th quarter start you ask; the same time apple is rumored to release the iPhone 5.

 

[JForestZ34]

The delay from Apple's "norm"

I think it's obvious that apple hasn't set a release date for the upcoming iPhone, but it's also painfully obvious why people feel that the new iPhone's release has been "delayed" compared to the past releases.

People do need to get a grip and learn how to not be so annoying and repeat over and over how "Apple never said when the iPhone 5 would be launched" when you know exactly what people are trying to say. I too think it's ridiculous that it's been over a year and Apple has yet to announce the next iPhone... I also wonder what the "delay" could be?? Unofficially of course.

There is no delay.. It's only in the customer's mind that it should have been launched because that is when THEY wanted it.. Nothing is delayed until it's announced and not delivered in the time they said it was.. SO IT'S NOT DELAYED YET.. Everybody take a chill pill and enjoy life.. It's not the end of the world...

Oh and we can't forget about iOS 5, i bet Apple wants to use that as it's strong point to make it different from any other available phone.

But there's nothing really different.. Apple is FINALLY adding features that phones had years ago.. Nothing to see here..


James

 

[tann]

There are probably minimal problems with the phone, they are probably trying to fix all the bugs that might be floating around in the 200+ new features of iOS 5 lol.


On another note, have you ever known a phone to be so anticipated? I mean there are so many people who skipped the 4 for the 5, so many people who haven't bought a 4 because the 5 was due sometime in the second half of the year. Lucky Germans can even pre-order it despite no one knowing anything about it. It's ridiculous .

 

[movieator]

I think it's fine.

I was surmising that the delay might be to stretch time between the 5 and the release of the 4 on Verizon. Just so there is extra breathing room for sales and so they can get all carriers on a set release schedule.

But I'm just some idiot in LA. What do I know, really?

 

[JForestZ34]

There are probably minimal problems with the phone, they are probably trying to fix all the bugs that might be floating around in the 200+ new features of iOS 5 lol.


On another note, have you ever known a phone to be so anticipated? I mean there are so many people who skipped the 4 for the 5, so many people who haven't bought a 4 because the 5 was due sometime in the second half of the year. Lucky Germans can even pre-order it despite no one knowing anything about it. It's ridiculous .

HAHA 200+ new features.. I would love to see a FULL list of everything new.. I guess these thing should of been out years ago but apple is still figuring out how to get it done..


James

 

[Jamie0003]

I hate to say it, but I am starting to doubt an iPhone announcement in September. I think there is much more to this delay then we think. And I think the delay is going to continue right through September with not so much as even an event date. I have no facts or sources, but my gut is telling me something is wrong. Maybe it's because it's the first day back to work after a holiday, or the fact the weather on the East Coast is miserable, or maybe a little of both. But my excitement is starting to turn toward frustration and doubt. The rumors, which I usually enjoy reading (no matter how rediculous) are becoming boring and frustrating. Something just isn't right. I'm starting to think there are problems...Problems that (in a worse case scenario) could make it a very Android Christmas.

I know it would KILL Apple to not relase an iPhone this year. But what do you think the possibilites are that this "doomsday scenario" could really happen? And does anyone agree that these delays could be far worse then what we imagined? I'm beginning to think Apple may be just as frustrated as we are.

One bright spot is that I think if iPhone 5 was plagued with major problems that was going to delay the release through the years end, we would have already seen, or at least heard about, a refreshed iPhone 4...Which they would almost certainly do if there was no chance for an iPhone 5 in 2011.

What do you all think?

My guess is iOS5 and iCloud aren't fully ready. Don't forget, iCloud is going to be one of the biggest features of the iPhone 5 and iOS5, and Apple needs to get it right. It's also a very big thing to have cloud computing on a phone.