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there's no delay. If Apple had said they were going to release in July, then this would be a delay, but Apple said iOS5 will come out in Fall. Apple have a release time in mind. until they tell us the date, we have no idea if there's a delay......

There is no delay.. It's only in the customer's mind that it should have been launched because that is when THEY wanted it.. Nothing is delayed until it's announced and not delivered in the time they said it was.. SO IT'S NOT DELAYED YET..

You guys know full well what people mean so don't pretend to be so high and mighty and wise. There's a delay from the expected release date. That's what everyone means and you know it. Don't be idiots.
 
I hate to say it, but I am starting to doubt an iPhone announcement in September. I think there is much more to this delay then we think. And I think the delay is going to continue right through September with not so much as even an event date. I have no facts or sources, but my gut is telling me something is wrong. Maybe it's because it's the first day back to work after a holiday, or the fact the weather on the East Coast is miserable, or maybe a little of both. But my excitement is starting to turn toward frustration and doubt. The rumors, which I usually enjoy reading (no matter how rediculous) are becoming boring and frustrating. Something just isn't right. I'm starting to think there are problems...Problems that (in a worse case scenario) could make it a very Android Christmas.

I know it would KILL Apple to not relase an iPhone this year. But what do you think the possibilites are that this "doomsday scenario" could really happen? And does anyone agree that these delays could be far worse then what we imagined? I'm beginning to think Apple may be just as frustrated as we are.

One bright spot is that I think if iPhone 5 was plagued with major problems that was going to delay the release through the years end, we would have already seen, or at least heard about, a refreshed iPhone 4...Which they would almost certainly do if there was no chance for an iPhone 5 in 2011.

What do you all think?

Your Holiday was not long enough? ;)
 
I think anything short of a major update (ie. iPhone 5, and not an "iPhone 4S") will be disappointing to most people who have waited.

And really, no one can say for sure which it'll be. There are enough rumors and speculations that it can go either way. The best scenario is if both were true: a reasonably affordable upgraded 4, and a completely redesigned 5.

I think it's somewhat ironic that now Apple has a "cheap" version of their phone; a key point that Apple fanboys insist is what makes the iPhone so premium. The cheap version may even be plastic or cheaper material in general, which is a knock often used against other devices (namely Samsung). I'm no fanboy one way or another; I think Apple is wise to tap into that market.
 
We were never given a firm release date by ANYONE, so it could come out at any time and be announced at any time. Until Apple announces it, a release date is still up n the air.

What "delay"? Apple never said when the iPhone 5 would be launched. Seriously, people need to get a grip and learn how to distinguish between rumors and official statements.

delay? As far as I'm concerned Apple never gave us a specific release date...

Yup...If Apple doesn't say anything until 2020, technically there is no delay. But c'mon guys, u know exactly what I mean.

And Hankster...When Apple "officially" announces a delay, I'll be sure to post it on macfacts.com. Until then, I'll continue to post any rumors or speculation on macRUMORS.com. thanks for the heads up though!
 
i'm pretty sure that this 1.5 year gap is a one off. i think basically they're lining up to release the iPod Touch with the iPhone, since they're pretty much the same tech released about 3 months apart, they end up repeating themselves, when they can do it all under one Keynote.

This is IMO part of the reason. It never made sense to separate the iPhone release from that of the iPod touch. Apple was being redundant in highlighting the iPod touch features due to IOS being the same for that and the iPhone.

I work for Vodafone UK and I am able to summarise the following in relation to an upcoming Apple launch. Unfortunately I am unable to offer any further information due to having an NDA with both Vodafone and Apple:

- Apple have not confirmed finalised spec details or launch dates to us yet, only the provisional details that have been sent to all TelCo's.
- Announcement day and physical purchase availability day are now likely to be 2 different days.
- We are working towards an end of September announcement (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- We are working towards an early October physical purchase launch (date yet to be confirmed to us by Apple)
- A full refreshed (form and function) handset is to be launched, along with a secondary lower range (mild spec upgrade, lower GB capacity) handset.
- No assets (images) have been supplied to us from Apple yet.

Given the info for the iPhone 4 and the 3GS was given to us only a few days before launch, none of the above is unusual, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens again for this launch.

Thanks for this. At least we now know that any moves the carriers are making are based off the same speculation we have and they don't know something we don't.

As for the delay, think about this: what kind of splash does "just" an iPhone launch make? It's one product, it makes tech news for a few days, and that's it. But if they hold it back, they can pair it with EVERYTHING they've been promising this year - iCloud, iTunes In The Cloud/Match, etc. Now that is something big and it will extend beyond tech news. Plus they can launch all new versions of iPods with it that tie into the iCloud stuff.

This is exactly the point I was gonna make. Starting at WWDC, Apple announced so many cool things to be released this year (and neglected to mention the one thing we wanted to know). By releasing everything at once, they'll create a bigger media impact than any of these products/features being released on their own. Plus, it makes sense since all these services/releases tie into one another very seamlessly.
 
Apple is bankrupt, they don't want you to find out they spent all their money on pumpkin futures last october and failed to sell before halloween.

can't believe no one got this awesome simpsons reference. love it
 
I think Apple just wanted to push the release of the iPhone up to Fall instead of Summer. iPhone 5 will come out Fall 2011 and iPhone 6 will probably come out Fall 2012. It's much closer to the holiday season.
 
It's fun to read everyone's take on the potential release. Especially the really impatient ones.

It's going to be an interesting new model, yet it's important to remember it's only a phone. One with a lifespan of just months before iPhone 6.
 
It's fun to read everyone's take on the potential release. Especially the really impatient ones.

It's going to be an interesting new model, yet it's important to remember it's only a phone. One with a lifespan of just months before iPhone 6.

Exactly it's only a phone. One that Apple has never even casually admitted exists. They could skip this year altogether and release iPhone 5 in 2012. With the cash they have sitting in the bank I hardly see what they have to be worried about. They're not going to do that but it's not like the company is hanging on by a thread and hoping to be rescued by this mythical device.

That said I'll be getting one on launch day.
 
September just started. Chill out.

"The Fall" (for iOS 5, clearly coming with new hardware) was Apples *wink* to us . . . Fall 2011 starts Sept 23.
Until then relax, If no news by then, I guess it'd be cool/acceptable to speculate.

Go outside & play or something.
 
I think it's funny that some people think the iPhone 5 is just being delayed this one time to October, and that the iPhone 6 is going to come out in June 2012.
 
Since all rumors point towards iPhone 6 having both the upcoming A6 chip & the hybrid iOS, I wouldn't be surprised if it got pushed till Q1 2013. Yet that's still just a matter of months. Time flies. At least for me.

I've got so many interesting things going on, waiting is never an issue. Especially when it comes to smartphones since I enjoy Android as well. It's fun to have a couple of lines & choices of phones.
 
You guys know full well what people mean so don't pretend to be so high and mighty and wise. There's a delay from the expected release date. That's what everyone means and you know it. Don't be idiots.

lol people are getting their knickers in a twist cos the iPhone didn't come out when they, who have no actual idea of the release date and are calling that it's delayed and us who actually use logic and listen to facts are idiots?? what world are you living in??

There's no delay. Apple have simply changed when they release the iPhone. That's not a delay, that's just a change of release time. If it's later than Joe Public's idea of release time is not a delay. If Apple had said all along that they were releasing in the summer then changed it to fall, that would be a delay.

anyone that thinks otherwise is just being silly.
 
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anyone that thinks otherwise is just being an idiots.

I wouldn't say that anyone that thinks that is an idiot....if you look at it, the reason that some are calling this a delay is because of the fact that Apple has released an iPhone every year in June/July since it's creation, creating a "normal product cycle." The fact that they have failed to do so this year can, in a way, be viewed as a "delay."

On another note, I was talking to a friend who works at Apple (part of the product marketing team) that I've known for a long time (a few years) and while he/she didn't flat out say it, he/she essentially told me that they are aiming for a September release (this could mean that they are releasing it in September or they are announcing). Either way, after talking with my friend, I am convinced that there will be a new iPhone soon.
 
iF APPLE are waiting this long they must be

A- an issue getting enough stock in to sell the thing to so many people

B-they are planning a major update and not just a bigger screen, camera

surely they wouldn't wait this long just to have a bigger screen, battery life and camera?
 
iF APPLE are waiting this long they must be

A- an issue getting enough stock in to sell the thing to so many people

B-they are planning a major update and not just a bigger screen, camera

surely they wouldn't wait this long just to have a bigger screen, battery life and camera?

Unless it's a problem with iOS5 that's holding it back. Or an issue with component supply. Or a problem with quality control. There's heaps of possible reasons for a later-than-usual announcement.
 
Although Apple never admitted releasing the iPhone 5 this year, i highly doubt that they will wait much longer to release it. Just think about it, if they don't release it anytime soon, they will fall behind, new technological developments will start to show up, people start to buy other phones (android, etc), Apple looses. This is basic economy guys.
 
Although Apple never admitted releasing the iPhone 5 this year, i highly doubt that they will wait much longer to release it. Just think about it, if they don't release it anytime soon, they will fall behind, new technological developments will start to show up, people start to buy other phones (android, etc), Apple looses. This is basic economy guys.

Indeed. iPhone 5 should (must) arrive latest byOctober. Apple has already seeded iOS 5's almost final build to the carriers worldwide for FaceTime & iMessage connectivity.
 
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iF APPLE are waiting this long they must be

A- an issue getting enough stock in to sell the thing to so many people

B-they are planning a major update and not just a bigger screen, camera

surely they wouldn't wait this long just to have a bigger screen, battery life and camera?

Or C - they are changing the release to release with the iPods as I said. makes more sense to release them together and makes sense moving the iPhones to the same time as the iPods. I wouldn't be surprised if the iPad got shifted next year too.
 
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