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Bent phones: Apple may be working on silent fix right now

iososx said:
With Apple you must know the right time to buy and the models to avoid.
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As a professional apple user since 1992, I have never based my purchase decisions off of the quoted premise, the iPhone 6 has proven to be no different, so far, so good.
 
mailboxbetacoin said:
Silent as in no PR associated with the change.
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That's exactly what can't happen. You do a "silent" update with no PR event and as soon as someone tears the thing down and finds the change (they will) it'll explode into a cover-up scandal. The headline will look like this:

"Apple updates iPhone 6, Implicitly Admits Bendgate Fault, Millions Demand Replacement"

We're talking about people who x-ray mystery silicon to get clues about its function. If the phones suddenly become bend-proof you don't think they'll go over every micron of that device looking for the change?

I can't even believe this is a debate.
 
aliensporebomb said:
Anecdotally:

I've had my iPhone 6+ since the 26th of last month.

Checking:

Nope, it's not bent yet.

I guess there's no problem.
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Launch day adopter. Tried bending it. Still Not Bent.

Was told if i looked at it wrong it would bend. Looked at it wrong. Still Not Bent.

Haven't sat on it yet though, since phones aren't meant to be sat on.

Am i doing it wrong?
 
mailboxbetacoin said:
hypothesis:
- some phones set aside for the chinese launch (although Apple supply chain should be able to handle that without pausing the rest of the world supply)
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You make this assertion based on what sources? Current China iPhone preorders stand at over 20 million, more than any other launch. On what basis do you assert that the existing Apple production capacity can handle such a surge without pausing world supply?


- slowdown of manufacturing while working on improving the 6+ manufacturing process / quality control
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You're creating a conspiracy theory based on a single metric for which you don't know the cause. That doesn't make your hypothesis even remotely credible.


What's worse, you're basing ALL of this on a measurement of "adoption rate" based on usage on websites. that doesn't correlate to actual production numbers. It could very well be that people are tired of waiting for the 6 Plus and are simply getting iPhone 6 models after all. Or that people are truly scared of bendgate and not buying the phones at all, opting instead for some other platform. Or, they could be waiting for iOS 8.1 to come out, because of all the bugs they keep hearing out.

Or... maybe the data is bad, and the sample size from which to collect iPhone usage pattern data is flawed.

But you chose not to delve further to found out why the numbers are as they are. You've instead conflated this metric to assume that Apple has somehow halted production to do a midstream change.

You've built a pretty spectacular house of cards here.
 
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mcdj said:
I heard there might be an OTA update to fix currently bent phones.
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They tried that with 8.0.1 which made the phones unable to make or receive calls and broke TouchID. This in turn forced people not to use or carry their phone. Of those 40,000 phones that were disabled, none of them became bent during that time period. 😀
 
My 6+ bent, probably from front pocket (never placed in back pocket) and when I took it in lastnight, the genius said all bent phones are being sent to a special engineering team at apple and they maybe contacting me for questions. so they're working on "Something"
 
wxman2003 said:
Doesn't matter. The minute they change the design of the current 6 plus at the so called weak point, there will be class action lawsuits. Could you imagine how Apple would handle the millions of current Plus users who would demand a replacement or for Apple to apply the fix to their phones? Reinforcing the weak point silently is the same as admitting publicly that the current phone is flawed.
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Why? They updated structure and "made even better phone", so what's the fuss? They quietly updated products before (SSD on macbook).

And how can you prove apple strength alloy, screw or whatever?

Or perhaps problem was with quality control, producing some amount of defective phones, but not all and they are changing procedure.

It's possible.
 
odvan said:
Why? They updated structure and "made even better phone", so what's the fuss? They quietly updated products before (SSD on macbook).

And how can you prove apple strength alloy, screw or whatever?

Or perhaps problem was with quality control, producing some amount of defective phones, but not all.
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You must have forgot about Antennagate. Class Action lawsuit. They paid out money to many, including me.

And they offered to replace the SSD for free for those macbooks that had that SSD. They openly admitted the problem. It wasnt silent.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2056121/apple-warns-of-ssd-failures-in-macbook-air-offers-free-replacements.html
 
Atomic Walrus said:
I don't know why people don't get this, but let's go over it again:

There CANNOT be a "silent" update to the design. This is Apple, they move tens of millions of units, and it's going to take a maximum of one week after this supposed "silent" change for the whole thing to go fully public and turn into the worst PR disaster the company's ever seen.

The media will lose it, people will start class-action suits, and everyone who already owns a unit will be at the Apple store demanding a replacement with a "fixed" unit. This will never, ever happen.

If we're saying that some units are coming bent from the factory.. that will get resolved, as it's simply a manufacturing tolerance issue and Apple will already replace a device that comes damaged from the factory (though considering the publicity around all this you might have to open it in-store for them to believe you).
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Uh, dude...they can start wrapping the internals in bubblegum wrappers to add strength. It would smell good, too.
 
wxman2003 said:
You must have forgot about Antennagate. Class Action lawsuit. They paid out money to many, including me.

And they offered to replace the SSD for free for those macbooks that had that SSD. They openly admitted the problem. It wasnt silent.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2056121/apple-warns-of-ssd-failures-in-macbook-air-offers-free-replacements.html
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I do not. How much did you get, $15? I bet it could be $100 with 6+ and no one give a fock in a couple of month.

Once again, we don't know, was it a design flaw or just quality setback.

But it's possible apple looking for bending causes and therefore solutions.
 
odvan said:
I do not. How much did you get, $15? I bet it could be $100 with 6+ and no one give a fock in a couple of month.

Once again, we don't know, was it a design flaw or just quality setback.

But it's possible apple looking for bending causes and therefore solutions.
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I'm not even saying there is a bending issue. I have had no problems with my Plus. My whole point is that if there is an issue, Apple will not fix it silently. They will admit there is a problem, if there is a problem. They have done so in the past.
 
Macshroomer said:
As a professional apple user since 1992, I have never based my purchase decisions off of the quoted premise, the iPhone 6 has proven to be no different, so far, so good.
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Such a coincidence. We are likely just months apart. I've used Apple computers since May of 1991. From using desktop Macs only to using PowerBooks as well, I upgraded to the latest model Mac Laptop each time they were released. Dictated by the resource intense work I do, the annual upgrade was a regular practice. That's when the fact that some were better than others became very obvious. Had I been doing your basic work I would have made a laptop last a lot longer.

When talking iPhone's the reason I've owned every single one is purely because I can easily afford them, and being the avid Tech enthusiast I am, I enjoy variety learning and change. Living and working for the last decade in a mutiplatform environment has been even more interesting and educational.
 
iososx said:
Such a coincidence. We are likely just months apart. I've used Apple computers since May of 1991. From using desktop Macs only to using PowerBooks as well, I upgraded to the latest model Mac Laptop each time they were released. Dictated by the resource intense work I do, the annual upgrade was a regular practice. That's when the fact that some were better than others became very obvious. Had I been doing your basic work I would have made a laptop last a lot longer.

When talking iPhone's the reason I've owned every single one is purely because I can easily afford them, and being the avid Tech enthusiast I am, I enjoy variety learning and change. Living and working for the last decade in a mutiplatform environment has been even more interesting and educational.
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Ahh, the irony, LOL!

I love upgrading because the hardware gets faster which means I don't have to spend as much time on it and I can get back outdoors and create new product. I live for the life I have outside of tech...🙂
 
I think they'll do something eventually but it'll be public, not secretly.

I'm saying this because my couple week old iPhone 6+ is very slightly curved from pulling it out of its snap on case.
 
Don't count on it as that would put liability on Apple causing them millions and a PR disaster. The 6S might see a strengthened body, however if Tim Cook said only 9 complaints out of 10 million sold its a non event for Apple.
 
wxman2003 said:
I'm not even saying there is a bending issue. I have had no problems with my Plus. My whole point is that if there is an issue, Apple will not fix it silently. They will admit there is a problem, if there is a problem. They have done so in the past.
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I'm sceptical about it. They quietly fixed i4 (i think it was invisible coating) in later batches and no one complain since.

They never admit problem with imac 2009-2011 screen, famous yellow tint, but changed screens without hesitation.

I also remember ipad 2 had two screen manufacturers, and while samsung were impeccable, lg was far from it.

And so on, so on. Apple survives every time. 😉
 
It would be pretty stupid from Apple to bury their heads in the sand and pretend this is not an issue... hence I believe the new 6+ are with fixed panels.
 
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