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Apple, on a their quarterly conference call, was asked about 6 vs 6 Plus sales distribution and they claim they don't know exact numbers yet. Their comment was that "we sell as many as we build of each right now." So your SPECULATION above is basically meaningless.

I never disagreed with that, I agree that they do deliver as many as they build. But since delivery has been flat over the last 2 weeks, just means they don't build them anymore... i.e. my hypothesis.
 
We have had some debates here as to whether or not Apple would be working on a fix for the 6+ and limit supply in the meantime.

There may be some indication of that happening right now.

Although we've read plenty of reports that the demand for 6+ was underestimated, and that production lines were reorganized to produce more 6+, the usage statistics indicate than usage of 6+ over the last week is pretty flat (while the usage statistics for the 6 keep steadily rising).

Although there could be a few things to explain this constrained supply, tweaking the manufacturing process is certainly one of them

https://mixpanel.com/trends/#report/iphone_6/from_date:-29,report_unit:day,to_date:0

Last 8 days, iPhone6+ usage went from 1.45% to 1.61% (+11%)
The 8 days before that, iPhone 6+ usage went from 0.80% to 1.45% (+81%)

Although it is normal for the curve to flatten over time, the flattening of the 6 is much less brutal:

During the same periods iPhone6 usage increased by 13%
the 8 days before that iPhone6 usage had increased by 29%

Your statistics reading capabilities are that of a high school student. When you go to college, don't take economics as your major.
 
LOL....my wife just got hers a few days back....and the one for my kid is being delivered at the end of this week.

what r you talking about??

he's talking about the fact that the number of 6+ delivered is incredibly small in comparison to the demand. It can't be explained by supply constraints only, number of new 6+ in circulation these past 2 weeks is very little
 
he's talking about the fact that the number of 6+ delivered is incredibly small in comparison to the demand. It can't be explained by supply constraints only, number of new 6+ in circulation these past 2 weeks is very little


And I'm saying that just myself got delivery of two within these 7 days....

Strange hey!! LOL
 
UK users

I ordered 2 on the first pre order day. The black one then 10 minutes later a gold one. I got the black one on day of launch. The gold one is still not in stock. Vodafone told me in the store (Worksop) they had not had any 6+ in except the one I got there on day of launch. I asked them to look if I wanted another and they said 7-8 weeks. Any ideas people how long the wait is?
 
I too did not believe in Bendgate at first. Much to my chagrin, i had my 6+ flat on a table and noticed a wobble when i tapped the corners diagonally. It is very slight but the wobble is definitely there. I have had my phone in an Apple silicon case since day 1 and have been very careful with it. I do keep it in my front pants pocket when walking around (rarely while sitting), and i don't wear tight clothes. Tonight I compared it to my wife's 6+ and there is indeed a very slight bend on mine right under the volume buttons. You can't see it unless you look very closely. The bending on the 6+ is most definitely real. A 30 day old phone should not bend in the course of normal use.

This is 100% identical to my post in another thread. If you plan on taking it to the applestore to swap out, please report back exactly how it went. I was able to get mine swapped out after an argument with the genius after I refused paying the $80 applecare claim. here is my pic of my bent gold 6+.
 

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And I'm saying that just myself got delivery of two within these 7 days....

Strange hey!! LOL

no, not strange at all.

you can argue all you want, the number of new iPhone 6+ delivered over the last week is much smaller than it should be. whether you or your neighbor got their iPhone 6+ delivered is irrelevant in this debate.
 
no, not strange at all.

you can argue all you want, the number of new iPhone 6+ delivered over the last week is much smaller than it should be. whether you or your neighbor got their iPhone 6+ delivered is irrelevant in this debate.

are you oneofthenine in disguise??

the way you put your arguments is identical to his....

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How many were delivered last week?
How many should have been delivered?

good question....

he "seems" to know but doesn't want to share his knowledge....
 
How many were delivered last week?
How many should have been delivered?

Apple says in yesterday's remarks that demand is extraordinary, that they're building at full capacity. Everybody seems to agree that demand for 6+ is very high.

Between Oct 10 and Oct 19, number of iPhone 6+ in use has increased by 10%
The 10 days before that, the number of iPhone 6+ in use had increased by 75% (Sept 29-Oct 9)

Take a base 100 for Sept 29, then the index would be 175 in Oct 9 and around 192 on Oct 19.

In other words, if you consider that there was 1 million iPhone 6+ in use on Sept 29, there would be 1.75 million in use on Oct 9, and 1.92 million in use on Oct 19.

These numbers indicate a strong slowdown on supply.
Yet on the demand side, China went live during that period, and many people still wait their 6+ delivery from weeks ago.

There is a clear disconnect here between the increase in demand and reduction in supply.

You don't need to agree with my hypothesis to explain it, it is just an hypothesis; but the numbers are there and like it or not, there is an explanation to the numbers.
 
Apple says in yesterday's remarks that demand is extraordinary, that they're building at full capacity. Everybody seems to agree that demand for 6+ is very high.

Between Oct 10 and Oct 19, number of iPhone 6+ in use has increased by 10%
The 10 days before that, the number of iPhone 6+ in use had increased by 75% (Sept 29-Oct 9)

Take a base 100 for Sept 29, then the index would be 175 in Oct 9 and around 192 on Oct 19.

In other words, if you consider that there was 1 million iPhone 6+ in use on Sept 29, there would be 1.75 million in use on Oct 9, and 1.92 million in use on Oct 19.

These numbers indicate a strong slowdown on supply.
Yet on the demand side, China went live during that period, and many people still wait their 6+ delivery from weeks ago.

There is a clear disconnect here between the increase in demand and reduction in supply.

You don't need to agree with my hypothesis to explain it, it is just an hypothesis; but the numbers are there and like it or not, there is an explanation to the numbers.

and your point is.............?
 
LOL....my wife just got hers a few days back....and the one for my kid is being delivered at the end of this week.

what r you talking about??

Have you looked at the internet traffic reports for these phones? They've flatlined. We know that every phone shipped is immediately sold, so why are we not seeing any growth in traffic? Are 6+ owners just not using the internet? :rolleyes:
 
and your point is.............?

read my first post if you lost track.

my hypothesis is that Apple has slowed down on the 6+ manufacturing for a reason, and the largest issue about the 6+ we are aware of is bendgate. From there, a reasonable hypothesis could be that they're working on improving the manufacturing and QA process for this device.
 
read my first post if you lost track.

my hypothesis is that Apple has slowed down on the 6+ manufacturing for a reason, and the largest issue about the 6+ we are aware of is bendgate. From there, a reasonable hypothesis could be that they're working on improving the manufacturing and QA process for this device.

iPhone 6 bends also if you apply enough force to do it....are Apple not doing anything about the iPhone 6?

your theories don't make sense....
 
iPhone 6 bends also if you apply enough force to do it....are Apple not doing anything about the iPhone 6?

your theories don't make sense....

Although the 6 can be bent on purpose as easily as the 6+, it is fair to say that most reported cases of accidental bent are linked to the 6+

If my theories don't make sense, feel free to provide another one. The numbers need to be explained, as they don't correlate with the various demand reports.

Here is the latest from today:
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2014/10/...-apple-to-shift-production-away-from-iphone-6

According to those sources, original supply was 70/30 in favor of the iPhone 6, and has now shifted to 55/45.

Yet, usage data shows the ratio of iPhone6/6+ in use is 81/19. Somehow, all those produced 6+ don't make it to the users hands.
 
I agree. Something is definitely up because these phones just aren't making it to customers right now.

They were in stock at my local Apple store for a while and for the past few days their stock went to zero. It does look rather suspicious.

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Your statistics reading capabilities are that of a high school student. When you go to college, don't take economics as your major.

He has had a very interesting insight. Very interesting indeed. YOU did not have any brilliant insight and so go to a mean ad hominem attack? Shameful.
 
Although the 6 can be bent on purpose as easily as the 6+, it is fair to say that most reported cases of accidental bent are linked to the 6+

If my theories don't make sense, feel free to provide another one. The numbers need to be explained, as they don't correlate with the various demand reports.

Here is the latest from today:
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2014/10/...-apple-to-shift-production-away-from-iphone-6

According to those sources, original supply was 70/30 in favor of the iPhone 6, and has now shifted to 55/45.

Yet, usage data shows the ratio of iPhone6/6+ in use is 81/19. Somehow, all those produced 6+ don't make it to the users hands.

i just told you my wife received her 6 Plus last week and my son will get his this Friday...it's actually on it's way from China.

am I special??
 
i just told you my wife received her 6 Plus last week and my son will get his this Friday...it's actually on it's way from China.

am I special??

Yes, your sample of 1 clearly disproves the theory. Your infallible logic and scientific prowess have won the day! In other news, my aunt is a smoker and she does not have cancer, therefor we can conclude that smoking does not cause cancer...
 
***Breaking News***

JB Weld stock has shot up over the last 2 weeks with suspected insider trading.

Sources are telling the that Apple is buying this JB Weld to reinforce Iphone 6 plus models and have already implemented the process into the Ipad Air 2.

If you check closely you will see that the weight of both devices has went up a few grams due to the JB Weld application.

My other source is telling me that this can only be confirmed if you weigh the device. Apple has not update their website.
 
Yes, your sample of 1 clearly disproves the theory. Your infallible logic and scientific prowess have won the day! In other news, my aunt is a smoker and she does not have cancer, therefor we can conclude that smoking does not cause cancer...


Isn't a real world sample more reliable than fodder from Internet usage and some chaps theories??
 
***Breaking News***

JB Weld stock has shot up over the last 2 weeks with suspected insider trading.

Sources are telling the that Apple is buying this JB Weld to reinforce Iphone 6 plus models and have already implemented the process into the Ipad Air 2.

If you check closely you will see that the weight of both devices has went up a few grams due to the JB Weld application.

My other source is telling me that this can only be confirmed if you weigh the device. Apple has not update their website.

You win post of the day! Perfect! Back in the day I used to use JB Weld to fix holes in aluminum automobile engine heads. It could certainly fix a bendy phone. I'm glad I'm waiting this whole mess out.
 
i just told you my wife received her 6 Plus last week and my son will get his this Friday...it's actually on it's way from China.

am I special??

and my numbers above are saying than thousands and thousands new 6+ are being delivered, nobody claimed the opposite.

The analysis is based on the discrepancies between expected and actual supply, and not whether or not you got your phone

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Isn't a real world sample more reliable than fodder from Internet usage and some chaps theories??

Hold on, let me make sure I understand your argument, you're saying the sample of 1 anonymous person on an internet forum is more statistically relevant than a database of 37+ millions record from a reputable source?

If you really believe that, I don't think there is a point in debating anymore, this won't go anywhere
 
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