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can i mount the 27'iMac on a glass table

table is from ikea, around 1cm thick glass
got the ergotron mx deskmount and the vesa mount adaptor.

Question is can i place it on my glass table? is it safe?

Thanks guys..
i've looked high and lo but to no avail!
 
mantis 30 photos

Some photos of the mantis 30 I bought which arrived yesterday. I can't mount the iMac on it yet because they forgot one bolt which would keep the machead from slipping out. I believe that bolt will also allow tilt adjustment, but I'll avoid speculating until I have it all working.

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Some photos of the mantis 30 I bought which arrived yesterday. I can't mount the iMac on it yet because they forgot one bolt which would keep the machead from slipping out. I believe that bolt will also allow tilt adjustment, but I'll avoid speculating until I have it all working.

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Im mounting mine on a glass table... not a wall.. so wondering if anyone has done that before.. glass table is 1cm thick...
 
table is from ikea, around 1cm thick glass
got the ergotron mx deskmount and the vesa mount adaptor.

Question is can i place it on my glass table? is it safe?

Glass used in furniture is usually tempered which increases it's strength, though as has been described many times in this thread, the 30 lb weight at the levering at the end of an arm provides quite a lot of torque to the mounting surface.

I don't have a definitive answer to your question "Is it safe?", but the product descriptions for Ikea products containing tempered glass include the following warning:

Handle with care! A strike, knock or scratch can cause the glass to crack suddenly. However, only into small pieces, never into sharp fragments.

So if there is a catastrophic failure from the twisting action on the glass, the primary risk will be to your beautiful iMac, not to life threatening lacerations to your person.

As per the instructions above, if you attempt to fit it on this glass desk, I might add a thin purpose-cut piece of rubber to prevent the risk of the mount scratching the glass. I would also get a friend to help support the iMac while you test the range of motion while observing how the glass reacts. (Personally, based on the bending to my heavy duty wood desk before I reinforced it, I'm skeptical.)

You might also have a look at this link. And in the past there have been a couple of threads here on the Mac Rumors Forums about the safety of even standing an iMac on top of a glass desk (1, 2) - - though that wouldn't concern me.

If it does not appear to be safe, I would look into positioning the desk to take advantage of a wall mount, like the lovely set-up that daveeasa has pictured with his Mantis 30 on this page - - I like how he has chosen a position that allows use in two distinct areas of the house.
 
What happened to the ATDEC Levitate???

Does anyone know what's happened to the ATDEC Levitate mounting arm? It was announce with great fanfare last Fall with scheduled availability in February, 2011, but there seems to be no sign of any place or way to purchase it. Anyone heard any news???
 
Here's a couple of new YouTube videos demonstrating monitor arms - - but before anyone gets too excited - - they are both not suitable for the 27" iMac. I have posted them here because they are both excellent examples of design, and the videos themselves are very well produced, both in terms of selling the particular product and the concept of arms in general.

First up is the Steelcase Plurio, which comes very close to being able to handle a pair of 27" iMacs, but falls short in the specs with 24" and 24 lbs. Nonetheless, for arm afficionados, the YouTube video of the Plurio is definitely worth the 123 seconds it takes to watch for it's unique mechanism.

Second is the recently redesigned EVO from Innovative. It's predecessor has been mentioned in this thread before as the little brother of the Innovative 7500 HD, but the EVO again falls short for the 27" iMac with a 20 lbs max payload. The EVO YouTube video is worth watching for it's sophisticated take on selling a monitor arm, considering that so much of the promotional material for arms is dull and seemingly directed solely at office purchasing managers
 
Yeah. Great. Unfortunately, of little import for folks with 27" iMacs. I'm happy with what I have, but continue to be amazed that there is no competition - like zero - to my arm. If someone came up with a fully articulated arm - along every axis - easily controlled, and with at least an 80" reach, that has nice cable management that can accommodate 10 cables, and is aesthetically pleasing, in the neighborhood of $1000, I'd spring for it. But frankly, I don't see anything on the horizon, what with gas cylinders already maxed out on mine and none bigger on the market that I've heard of. At this point, I wonder if it makes sense for me to monitor this thread anymore - I mean, is there going to be a competitor to my arm, or not? Something that beats my fully articulated 44" reach with cable management? If not, then all I'd be looking at here are more of the underfed little shorties, though with pretty overlays and nice upbeat videos. But for those that can do with less, I guess it's happy times ahead. Good luck!
 
7500-hd

Best place to buy?

I saw in this thread other where buying the 7500 hd for $99 through amazon? Is this correct? Is the 7500 hd and 7500-1500 the same thing?

Amazon now lists it the 7500-1500 for $268

And the 7500 deluxe for $229

Where can I find it for less. Others have posted they paid around $183

I looked on eBay. And found nothing.

Google shopping search found it for 215$

Thanks

Old corpse and bobob,

For the price, is this the best arm for the price? I see the mantis 30 for $900 and the new double sprint EVO ( but doesn't support the weight),

I also saw the 9102-2000. Ummmm $1400 is way out of budget.
 
Not sure if this is in the correct thread... While I don't have my iMac hanging from an arm... yet, here is my setup.

The desk is attached directly to the wall, and only about half of it shows. The desk is roughly 12' wide (wall-to-wall) and 26" inches deep. Sorry it's a bit cluttered right now, but it serves me well. There are actually two 'workstation' corners, but a TV sits in the other. The window overlooks most of my 5 acres and at night I can see part of the valley where my Hometown is located.



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I want to thank you all for this informative thread, it was helpful!

I don't have an iMac yet, but the logistics of where to put it are certainly something one has to consider before purchase. I thought I would do a "simple" desk mount so that I can use it at my desk and then pivot it to my bed... But now I'm not so sure. The i360 turntable might be all I need, but I may still want the desk space.

You have all given me a ton to ponder!
 
Not sure if this is in the correct thread... While I don't have my iMac hanging from an arm... yet, here is my setup.

The desk is attached directly to the wall, and only about half of it shows. The desk is roughly 12' wide (wall-to-wall) and 26" inches deep. Sorry it's a bit cluttered right now, but it serves me well. There are actually two 'workstation' corners, but a TV sits in the other. The window overlooks most of my 5 acres and at night I can see part of the valley where my Hometown is located.

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I liked the bit about the 5 acres.
 
I'm back with a question on desk clamp mounts.

I've been staring at the space that my someday computer will go into, and one of the postings triggered a thought!

Planned purchase is a 27" iMac.... Unless I win lotto and can get a Mac pro! (but I don't play, so that won't happen either)

The one that doesn't have pictures viewable any longer, with the recliner, which I'd like to see! LOL!!

Anyway, he apparently has a plant for counter weight?

How can I determine what might be needed in that area? My desktop is pretty thick and solid (techline USA furniture from about 10 years ago), it is 35x73, but 18" of it rests on a shelf in a tall cabinet to create the peninsula desk. I don't currently have that attached, there has been no need for it to be. However, the iMac would be on the far end of the desktop so that it could pivot toward the bed, a chair or me sitting at the desk. Is the desktop going to be enough weight on it's own? I guess I could rig up some sort of clamps to put on the shelf and top.

I had actually originally envisioned a wall mount, but it sounds ultra expensive to get the reach I'd need. So this plan B mucks up my whole decorating plan in the room, because I wont need a TV this way. Guess i can ponder that while I wait to be able to buy the computer!

And I have to echo the sentiments of why haven't we come further in this area? We don't appear to have progressed much beyond the arm I bought for my massive heavy CRT way back when.... At least the colors are better! :D
 
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How can I determine what might be needed in that area? My desktop is pretty thick and solid (techline USA furniture from about 10 years ago), it is 35x73, but 18" of it rests on a shelf in a tall cabinet to create the peninsula desk. I don't currently have that attached, there has been no need for it to be. However, the iMac would be on the far end of the desktop so that it could pivot toward the bed, a chair or me sitting at the desk. Is the desktop going to be enough weight on it's own? I guess I could rig up some sort of clamps to put on the shelf and top.

This is simple physics: if the iMac is at the end of an 18" cantilever, and the iMac weighs 30 pounds, it's going to be creating 45 foot-pounds of torque. Add in the weight of the arm itself, plus the weight of that part of the desk, and you're probably up around 70 foot-pounds. Now double or triple that, to get a good safety margin -- you don't want to put a cup of coffee down on your desk and have your iMac come crashing down. So, the question is now, "Does the part of the desk on the other side of the pivot have enough weight to counteract 150-200 foot pounds of torque?" Unless your desk is made of marble, the answer is probably no, so you'll want to put enough weight on it (or attach it to enough weight) to do that. Note that if your setup is such that the arm will project the iMac farther away from the desk, that will increase the torque still further -- if the arm extends out an additional 18", then that's double the torque.

This is a simplified explanation, since there may be lots of different objects at different points on your desk exerting different amounts of torque, but you can essentially think of the whole thing as a teeter-totter or see-saw, with the iMac as a small child at one end. You want to set things up so that there's the equivalent of a large adult at the other end, and there's no possible way that the weight of the iMac could even begin to cause its end to move down.
 
This is simple physics: if the iMac is at the end of an 18" cantilever, and the iMac weighs 30 pounds, it's going to be creating 45 foot-pounds of torque. Add in the weight of the arm itself, plus the weight of that part of the desk, and you're probably up around 70 foot-pounds. Now double or triple that, to get a good safety margin -- you don't want to put a cup of coffee down on your desk and have your iMac come crashing down. So, the question is now, "Does the part of the desk on the other side of the pivot have enough weight to counteract 150-200 foot pounds of torque?" Unless your desk is made of marble, the answer is probably no, so you'll want to put enough weight on it (or attach it to enough weight) to do that. Note that if your setup is such that the arm will project the iMac farther away from the desk, that will increase the torque still further -- if the arm extends out an additional 18", then that's double the torque.

This is a simplified explanation, since there may be lots of different objects at different points on your desk exerting different amounts of torque, but you can essentially think of the whole thing as a teeter-totter or see-saw, with the iMac as a small child at one end. You want to set things up so that there's the equivalent of a large adult at the other end, and there's no possible way that the weight of the iMac could even begin to cause its end to move down.
I knew I should have taken physics! :D

That helps, as of "right now" the only extension of the arm I anticipate being over the desk toward me sitting there using it. The other positions would mainly be a "pivot on it's axis" to watch a movie on it.

I think i need to sort out some sort of "stylish" clamp for the desk top. I guess i could put a screw or two thru the shelf it is sitting on and into the top... But I'd rather not mar the top in case i wanted to flip it over.

This would be easier if knew of a fabricator in my area - and i'll be damned if I'm asking the ex for a name! LOL!!!

I have more to ponder now, and I sorted out the leg for that end of the table too, so I need to connect it to the table top as well. Hmmm, I have another aspect of it being able to move, let me see if i can dig up the pictures of it before it got piled with "desk crap" to illustrate and ask it (if you don't mind coming back and answering!).

Thanks bunches!!


Eta: before I forget, the top is 1 1/8" thick according to the child that measured it for me.
 
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The Ergotron Mx Desk Mount LCD Arm will work. Says it only holds 30lbs (27" iMac is 30.5 or 31), but when you remove the Apple stand, it drops to 27 or 28 lbs. Just need Apple's VESA adapter and it should work. I'm going to buy one this weekend I think.
 
Old corpse and bobob,

For the price, is this the best arm for the price? I see the mantis 30 for $900 and the new double sprint EVO ( but doesn't support the weight),

I also saw the 9102-2000. Ummmm $1400 is way out of budget.

The 9102-2000 is the number Innovative (manufacturer) assigned to this arm. Resellers assign their own names/numbers to these arms (which can make searching and comparing hard).

That particular arm, 9102-2000 can be had for $617.21, from Ergomart.com, where it is called SAA4229.

This is the arm I purchased, and I purchased it from Ergomart. I'm very pleased - for the full details, see my posts in this thread. I have no other relationship with Ergomart, other than a customer.
 
Photos of my workstation

Thanks guys for the informative thread. I ended up buying the latest innovative 7500HD-1500-124 for US $210 including taxes and shipping. It is okay but after two weeks of experience, I have some issues.

It is ugly, bulky, and hard to maneuver especially with the tilt and the extension part of the arm. Also, there is no mechanism to prevent it from hitting your desk or your wall. Otherwise, it is as advertised. I will give it couple more months and see if maneuvering improves with my use. If not, then I will try the M8 HumanScale, which I believe it to be a superior choice with very little difference in price.

Here are some pictures and you can find more by clicking here. Best!

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So i'm in the ER Tuesday with my daughter.... Checking out the arm they have the TV on (and the other ones)! LOL!!!

I like the zip tied stuff to the pegboard. Going to have to remember that!
 
For anyone who has mounted, what is the depth of the iMac with the vesa plate on. As in from the face of the screen to the back of the plate.

And if you have it on an Innovative 7500-HD-1500 wall mounted, what is the depth from the face of the screen to the face of the wall when it is pushed as flush as possible.

Thanks for any info.
 
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For anyone who has mounted, what is the depth of the iMac with the vesa plate on. As in from the face of the screen to the back of the plate.

And if you have it on an Innovative 7500-HD-1500 wall mounted, what is the depth from the face of the screen to the face of the wall when it is pushed as flush as possible.

Thanks for any info.

I got your email and thought to share my reply here in case anyone needs it. You can find your answer here, here, and here.

Depth of the iMac with the vesa plate is around 4 inches. As you guessed, both wall and desk mount needs around 8 inches from wall to the iMac surface. An extra inch is needed for the wall mount piece to keep everything "exactly" parallel but this is not needed to keep your iMac flat on the wall.

To make your arm fully hidden as in this picture (though not an iMac) and as flush as possible when not in use, the issue is not only about length and distance in my opinion. Hear me on this..

I have to extend the arm to bring my iMac to the center of the desk so I have to fold the extension part of the arm first if I want to push it away to the side. It is not convenient and at times very hard to do so I stopped trying. The arm is now always extended. Folding the extension part is a must to allow you to hide the entire arm behind the Mac as you wish. None will be shown (as you see in my pictures) but good luck with the folding step first. Not as easy as they show in the video! I believe mostly due to the arm and partly due to the the size and weight of the iMac.

For why I don't like it, I explained my reasons in my previous post. Nothing changed so far in the arm itself, only my behavior. I am adapting to the arm's shortcomings. It is not convenient and this is why I might try the M8 but still this arm is far better than the stationary stand.

Last question to answer is where I bought it? From here. I hope this answered your questions but feel free to ask again if I missed something. Cheer!
 
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Hear me on this..

I have to extend the arm to bring my iMac to the center of the desk so I have to fold the extension part of the arm first if I want to push it away to the side. It is not convenient and at times very hard to do so I stopped trying. The arm is now always extended. Folding the extension part is a must to allow you to hide the entire arm behind the Mac as you wish. None will be shown (as you see in my pictures) but good luck with the folding step first. Not as easy as they show in the video! I believe mostly due to the arm and partly due to the the size and weight of the iMac.

For why I don't like it, I explained my reasons in my previous post. Nothing changed so far in the arm itself, only my behavior. I am adapting to the arm's shortcomings. It is not convenient and this is why I might try the M8 but still this arm is far better than the stationary stand.

Thanks for the prompt response. I checked with Innovative and they indicated to me that all movement should be fluid all the time or as much as any arm will be (big caveat), suggesting it may have something to do with your adjustment of it. And yet they said there are not separate adjustments, but only one, so setting how freely the elbow rotates is not separate from counterbalancing the weight of the display to the gas shock. This really seems like the best solution for me, though I'm not to crazy about buying the 8325 Heavy Duty Wall Mount separately from the unit at $68 or possibly less, AND having to buy my own screws. They don't include heavy duty screws for the mount.

My biggest issue that I discovered last night is that when mounted the gas arm will extend right to left along the wall with the top arm left to right over it so that the where it attaches to the wall is behind the right half of the iMac. This centers it over that section of my desk and between a bookcase and the tower section at the left end of my desk. And yet when in use I will need to extend it out the other way with the gas part extending from the wall to the right and the elbow bent bring the screen back to the left. Otherwise it won't sit deep enough in this position. Which means each time I want to change from use to wall or vice versa, I have extend it and flip it so to speak. If the movement isn't good and fluid, then it becomes a real pain. Innovative of course claims I won't have any issues. I can't get any real good dimensions from Humanscale as the only drawing I received was poor and I have other reservations about it including that it is deeper. So we'll see. Thanks for the info.
 
Today I contacted the local Humanscale office. I believe it is also the HQ for the customer service, and they informed me they had a showroom. Not really, it was more like offices but they would bring out almost anything they had as well as show you what they had in use by employees. Everyone had their sweet chairs along with anything else ergonomic to make working less physically taxing.

A sales rep showed me the M8. Saw it in black and it was really nice. If the new iMacs were black on the back like my old 24" I might go for that, but I think I will still get the Polished with white trim. Hands down from what I saw the Humanscale M8 is extremely robust, well built, and appears to be superior in looks and function to the Innovative 7500. I plan to order one before the end of the week.

I'll definitely post some picks when I get it set up.
 
Here's a modular arm system called the SpaceArm from a Colorado based company - - SpaceCo.

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It appears to have options for extended length (up to 31"), multiple monitors (up to 24), and most importantly for 27" iMac owners, it is available in payloads of up to 30 pounds.

Here's a YouTube video demonstrating it's various configurations.
 
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