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Best Buy Discounting iPads, iPhones, Macs, and More for Black Friday

kc2kth said:
This I'll disagree with, and here is why. Generally low paying jobs equate to low skill requirements for the job. These jobs have traditionally been meant to provide an introduction to the work force for the young worker or as part time / second income to supplement a households primary source - it was a win-win for the employee and the employer in that respect. Increasing the pay rate for these jobs means fewer jobs available for new workers and for those needing to supplement their income as employers will not be able to employ as many people. If you think employers can afford it, take a look at the profit margins of any company that employs minimum wage workers. By and large the majority do not have huge margins to be able to absorb a doubling of minimum wage.
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Increase min wage =More money in the hands of the people = more people spending money = more revenue for companies.
 
And then the fools will fight, break bones, and go mad over such a small amount. All after the day of showing their thanks, no less...
 
nepalisherpa said:
It's that time of the year again! I know it's sad, but, I wonder how many people are going to get beat up or even killed this year.
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I dunno either, but I'm gonna try my damnest to see if I can break my record from last year.

...it's gonna be like a Mad Max sequel out there. AND I'VE GOT THE BIG RIG! 😡
 
dannyyankou said:
At least Apple, the most valuable company in the world, is giving their employees the weekend off (with pay I think?)
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Yeah but I don't really consider them at the same level as Bestbuy, Target, Walmart etc. Even though retail is a big part of their business, it isn't all of it.
 
nepalisherpa said:
It's that time of the year again! I know it's sad, but, I wonder how many people are going to get beat up or even killed this year.
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Think of it as Darwinism in action. The smarter of the species understand these deals are 1) good but not spectacular and 2) available online for delivery.

dannyyankou said:
I heard most Best Buy stores are opening at 5pm on Thanksgiving.

Honestly, **** all these companies for putting the dollar over their employees families.
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Well, the dollar is how these companies pay their employees. If the companies don't try to make as much $ as possible they can't pay their employees and certainly can't offer better benefits or wages.

The reality of 2014 is that competition is brutal because consumer dollars are short. It's literally become the early dollar gets the good quarter, in a quarter that really matters. Add on top of that the Internet stores that never close. That's why so many companies feel the pressure to open at times thought unheard of previously. It's not about greed, but survival.
 
69Mustang said:
Apple Pay actually influences where you shop? Not judging, but genuinely curious.
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It does; not a lot at the moment, but will increasingly. I travel enough for business and personal reasons and I have had my credit card number stolen a dozen times over the years. The most recent was earlier this year. I see Apple Pay as a more secure way of paying without having to take my credit card out of my wallet. Very difficult for someone to steal my number and buy a dress in Huston while I am in Chicago (what actually happened this last time).

So as more places accept Apple Pay, I will divert my business to those establishments. I am an Apple Fan, but this, for me, is about not getting my credit card number again. I do no need to have any weird conversation with my wife or the credit card company about me not being a cross dresser traveling to Huston.
 
Black Friday deals seem to be pretty bad this year. Even door busters don't seem like they're that great? As in.. even if it was available throughout the entire day, I don't know if I would actually buy it. Weird.

Walmart is the last big one in my opinion. Maybe they'll do the whole guaranteed thing again this year where you buy a card after inventory is gone and you can pick it up later.
 
kc2kth said:
This I'll disagree with, and here is why. Generally low paying jobs equate to low skill requirements for the job. These jobs have traditionally been meant to provide an introduction to the work force for the young worker or as part time / second income to supplement a households primary source - it was a win-win for the employee and the employer in that respect. Increasing the pay rate for these jobs means fewer jobs available for new workers and for those needing to supplement their income as employers will not be able to employ as many people. If you think employers can afford it, take a look at the profit margins of any company that employs minimum wage workers. By and large the majority do not have huge margins to be able to absorb a doubling of minimum wage.
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You're living in the past with your generalities and assumptions.

Times have changed, and so have socio-economic conditions. We no longer live the lives of Ward and June Cleaver. Instead, we have MANY uneducated ADULTS, raising families, in VERY EXPENSIVE COST OF LIVING STATES (like California) that are forced to take these jobs. Blame the cost of higher education, etc., but that is the reality. No longer are these jobs just for high-school teen weekend jobs. In many states, like California, working 40-60 hours a week at minimum wage cannot even pay the rent in a seedy apartment.

People think that because the cost of a hamburger will have to go up 20 cents, business will decline, and I say WRONG. Gas goes up, electricity goes up, everything goes up when costs of doing business go up.

It's scare tactics by the greedy big and small businesses to frighten people into thinking that higher minimum wages equals going out of business. Slim profit margins? GIVE ME A BREAK. Sure, some businesses do work on very slim margins, but again, consumers aren't going to stop coming because something costs 20 cents more.

10 employees, making $2 more an hour each, equals $20. How many burgers, fries, and cokes does a McDonalds sell in an hour? I think they can make up that $20 pretty darn easy.
 
nepalisherpa said:
It's that time of the year again! I know it's sad, but, I wonder how many people are going to get beat up or even killed this year.
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I won't. I'll be playing disc golf. Assuming the weather isn't completely atrocious. I went to a Walmart to buy an item once on Black Friday, not a rush/popular/sellout item but a nice deal that day. Never shopped on that day again. I'd rather save up for another month for whatever and pay more.
 
tgi said:
While I agree with your statement. The employees are aware of having to work holidays at a retail company. Not to mention a lot of them volunteer to work on holidays, especially if they are getting paid double or time and half.
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I feel the same way about the earlier start times every year, but what you said about pay very true. Also, a lot of those employees count on the extra holiday pay/hours to help with funds for the actual holidays.
 
tgi said:
While I agree with your statement. The employees are aware of having to work holidays at a retail company. Not to mention a lot of them volunteer to work on holidays, especially if they are getting paid double or time and half.
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I work at kohls in North Carolina and while yes we are aware that working in retail is mandatory on most holidays none of us are volunteering. You either show up for work on Thanksgiving and Black Friday or you are fired. We're opening up at 6 pm and since most of us make around 8 dollars an hour the time and a half really isn't worth it. Not to mention the extra pay is only for thanksgiving. We get payed regular pay once it's 12 am black friday. The pay isn't going to make or break or holiday funding for gifts. I'd must rather be at home with friends and family. But, that's just part of the job for retail. Mostly I just hate the ******* customers who are extremely rude and unreasonable during black thanksgiving/friday
 
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Why do u guys go to best buy when online is often cheaper?


Big box stores are painful experiences

Busy, can't find help, parking, traffic, etc

Last thing id want to do is miss a workout to go to these stores.
 
Radio said:
Why do u guys go to best buy when online is often cheaper?


Big box stores are painful experiences

Busy, can't find help, parking, traffic, etc

Last thing id want to do is miss a workout to go to these stores.
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While I agree, for things that might require a return because I didn't like, I prefer physical stores so I am not charged shipping fees for returns. Besides, best buy does do price match with amazon, so it's not that bad.

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So best buy will give a $100 gift card for ipad air 2 i assume.

I would much rather prefer a gift card at target though. At best buy I will probably end up buying some new toy or something I don't need. At target it would go towards household stuff.
 
tgi said:
While I agree with your statement. The employees are aware of having to work holidays at a retail company. Not to mention a lot of them volunteer to work on holidays, especially if they are getting paid double or time and half.
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See, your problem is that you're believing the BS put out by these stores' PR firms.

I personally know two people who work at different big box retailers that will open on Thanksgiving, and despite the official word from their employers that it's voluntary, they tell me it is anything but voluntary and it's either come in to work that day or never come in again.

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iolinux333 said:
Cash instantly solves such issues.
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When you are pick pocketed by some thief in the Black Friday mob, will cash replace itself? When your iPad breaks just out of Apple's warranty, will cash pay for a repair or replacement?
 
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