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I wonder why Apple only "provided" a CDMA version of the '4? Strange...

It isn't strange. It was the less risky thing to do. They took the basic iPhone 4 design and tweaked it slightly to do CDMA. They used a MDM6600 but didn't both with messing with the HSPA radio parts. They spent 100% of that design variant time tweaking the CDMA performance and likely the antenna performance (since it was a problem).

Now that they have had a long lead time they can merge the two variants of the iPhone4 into one new phone ( iPhone 5 or 4GS or whatever label). Probably will get the very same MDM6600 that they shipped in the earlier phone along with a few more antenna tweaks.

As much as Apple spin doctors that they are on the bleeding edge .... in most areas they are not. They roll out lots of stuff conservatively. One, it leads to fewer surprises. Two, it gives them releatively obvious features to roll out in subsequent releases.

The next Verizon iPhone probably should have the same unlocked world roaming capabilities that the Droid 3 has on Verizon for anyone with an account in good standing.
 
This whole thing is bogus, people. I am best friends with the BBYM Mobile manager at one of Best Buy's locations and he confirmed that he's heard nothing.

Also, if you look at the information on that paper, it says Resistance is suppose to be on the front page of the ad this week, it is not.

Also, being an employee of Best Buy for almost 4 years, I know that managers got to my store at 6am EVERY DAY.

I'm sure the iPhone will be released sometime during the first 2 weeks of October, just based on all the rumors surrounding that time period, but to think that any kind of pre-sales are going to take place within the next week is ridiculous.
 
This whole thing is bogus, people. I am best friends with the BBYM Mobile manager at one of Best Buy's locations and he confirmed that he's heard nothing.

Also, if you look at the information on that paper, it says Resistance is suppose to be on the front page of the ad this week, it is not.

Also, being an employee of Best Buy for almost 4 years, I know that managers got to my store at 6am EVERY DAY.

I'm sure the iPhone will be released sometime during the first 2 weeks of October, just based on all the rumors surrounding that time period, but to think that any kind of pre-sales are going to take place within the next week is ridiculous.

I am not going along with the presales next week, however:
1: We have no proof you work for Bestbuy.
2: We have no proof of your best friend.

For anyone reading your posts, you're just another rumor.
 
Oct. 21st seems extremely late, but we'll take it! Are they going to have a cheaper iPhone for the Christmas season??

particularly for a phone that will have been out for 2-3 weeks at that point.

That's not Apple's style. They want the displays up on day one.

This fixture seems more like something they might do for the holidays perhaps with new iPods coming out at the same time.


Is it weird that they used the term "iPhone 5"??


Nope. Because that is likely what the new phone will be called. A single number system, 5 signifying this is the 5th iPhone released, avoids confusion. Many sites called the last phone the 4g as in 4th Generation but folks read it as 4G as in LTE tech.

The whole 4s thing could possibly create the same negative backlash of being 'barely changed' that the 3g to 3gs got from some folks despite the fact that the intended audience for the 5 is actually the folks that bought the 3gs two years ago, not the folks that bought the 4 last year. So a little change from the 4 to the 5 is fine cause the 3gs to the 5 is a major change.
 
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Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. But it begs the question of why Best Buy would wait until the 21st to do the Apple Fixture Installation.

Oh well, coming from an OG Droid Im really excited. I was hoping for a July launch but happy to get it later then never. Heres hoping for that 720p 4inch screen ;)


btw..Apple did invest in Toshibas 720p 4inch screen. So at least theres a 1% chance of that happening :rolleyes:

Maybe it's just an introduction of the iphone 5 to best buy and other stores..
 
At this point, the announcement won't be made for AT LEAST another week, as they have to send out invites and all of that.

Assuming there is an announcement and it involves more than a press release and some videos on the website or a town hall meeting with the local press live streamed to the world via some app or some HTML5 on the web site.

Also, once the announcement is made, Best Buy could start pre orders the minute after the announcement is over. They have the systems already in place and it would take them 5 minutes or less to pull a sign out of a locked cabinet and prop it up on the table


I wonder why Apple only "provided" a CDMA version of the '4? Strange...

Apple only provided Verizon with a CDMA phone because that's what Verizon supports. They don't have GSM. Just like ATT was only provided with GSM because they don't support CDMA.

Apple hasn't announced LTE/HSPA support and it is believed that they won't because those systems aren't yet fully developed and Apple won't want to market on tech that not everyone can use. So the iPhone 6 seems like the more likely timing for that level of support. But who knows. Apple might pull a fast one and do it anyway with a buyer beware stamped all over it.
 
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I am not going along with the presales next week, however:
1: We have no proof you work for Bestbuy.
2: We have no proof of your best friend.

For anyone reading your posts, you're just another rumor.

lol.

Spring, TX Best Buy - location 1072. D.I. Department from Sept. 2007 up until June of this year.

don't believe me, i couldn't care less. lol.

The fact is he did a search in TOOLKIT, and it yielded no results for any iPhone 5 anything. And yes, just like someone else said, an employee number would be watermarked across the whole page if it was indeed some kind of employee release stuff.

This whole article is a joke.
 
But you are not the manager, are you? ;)


I suspect the point is that a big deal has been made out of the managers being asked to be there at 6am as if this is not the norm. But in fact at some stores or some days it is par for the course because the inventory team would need a manager/keyholder to let them in same as this delivery team.


Yes, T-Mobile should get it before Sprint IMO because they use GSM technology and have a much better network.

1. For all we know T-Mobile will also get it despite the difference in GSM bandwidths that TMobile is allowed to support

2. if TMobile doesn't get it perhaps it is due to some kind of legal issue thanks to the pending sell out. Maybe Apple and TMobile were not allowed to cut a deal at this point
 
lol.

Spring, TX Best Buy - location 1072. D.I. Department from Sept. 2007 up until June of this year.

don't believe me, i couldn't care less. lol.

The fact is he did a search in TOOLKIT, and it yielded no results for any iPhone 5 anything. And yes, just like someone else said, an employee number would be watermarked across the whole page if it was indeed some kind of employee release stuff.

This whole article is a joke.

Big stories for a big state.
 
Apple only provided Verizon with a CDMA phone because that's what Verizon supports. They don't have GSM. Just like ATT was only provided with GSM because they don't support CDMA.

Verizon supports CDMA and GSM in their world phones. Verizon does not run GSM in the US, but their partner, Vodafone does overseas.
 
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Genuinely curious why this years release has taken so long. Better late than never I suppose.
 
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lol.

Spring, TX Best Buy - location 1072. D.I. Department from Sept. 2007 up until June of this year.

don't believe me, i couldn't care less. lol.

The fact is he did a search in TOOLKIT, and it yielded no results for any iPhone 5 anything. And yes, just like someone else said, an employee number would be watermarked across the whole page if it was indeed some kind of employee release stuff.

This whole article is a joke.

"Entertainment" is spelled wrong, are there often typos on these things?
 
Doubtful.

A large portion of Android's growth is being driven by the race to the bottom, more specifically inexpensive handsets being deployed in Southeast Asia.

This is a fundamental flawed viewpoint. The bottom is bigger than the top. There no "race to the bottom" it is a question if you intend to cover the whole spectrum of users. The "bottom" was already there.


If Apple chooses not to sell to over 80% of the phone users on the planet then it will loose the sales units market.


It has been surmised elsewhere that many of these users aren't really treating the handsets as smartphones, but are pretty much using them as touchscreen feature phones, just making phone calls and texting, with little use in the typical smartphone manner (surfing the Internet, downloading apps, playing games, etc.).

This is nice revisionist history. In the beginning smartphones were primarily game playing and internet surfing devices. The category has been redefined several times. Each time to map to the most expensive multi-hundred dollar phones.

Over time more capable phones will get less expensive. As they become more affordable more folks will being able to by them. In many parts of the world they are still expensive enough to have to be shared to defray the expense.

The initial iPhone had a fixed set of apps. By the revisionist definition it wasn't a smartphone. This is the kind of silliness permeates these forums.


Of course, these users don't really help out Google much (since they're not looking at ads), nor do they influence the Android developers (since they're not downloading apps).

I guess you haven't noticed Google recent push into social networking. A fixed "feature phone" that is hardwired to tap googles maps/network/services ... would probably work pretty good. Search ads.. no. Another form of ads probably. First you need to build the huge network. Then can monetize it. ( seems to have worked fine for Google's youtube.). Google doesn't have the best answer but they are positioning themselves to figure out the answer as the hardware costs come down and broadband like networks expand ( most of the world doesn't have affordable high speed cell networks... that's one reason why vast majority of folks don't kill tons of time surfing. )

Again you are also missing the utiliy of a "smartphone" with a fixed set of apps in the context of cost being a very effective differentiators.

Likewise the Android developers who ignore the needs of the "mass" android users won't be big winners.
 
"Expected" & "Subject to change"

I don't think they know anything. They are just anticipating, based on rumors. This seems to hardly be actual evidence of a date.

We know it's coming. I just don't find this to exactly be evidence.
 
i find it funny that in the sprint commercial of internet speeds, everyone has an iPhone as the phone going up in bars, and sprint has the evo
 
lol.

Spring, TX Best Buy - location 1072. D.I. Department from Sept. 2007 up until June of this year.

don't believe me, i couldn't care less. lol.

The fact is he did a search in TOOLKIT, and it yielded no results for any iPhone 5 anything. And yes, just like someone else said, an employee number would be watermarked across the whole page if it was indeed some kind of employee release stuff.

This whole article is a joke.

Not to mention that, unless something has changed in the last 2 months since I left best buy, you now have to enter your employee id in to view these articles and then the whole background of it is plastered with your number so that if it leaks they know who did it.
 
"Entertainment" is spelled wrong, are there often typos on these things?
That and the absence of a watermark are enough for me to surmise that this whole lead is bogus. Not to mention the confusion regarding dates. The whole thing is really rather sloppy. BGR trying to increase traffic, maybe?
 
You do know that Apple has sent out invites the week of an event, right? They could do it tomorrow. But doing it Labor Day week is bad and, in terms of the US, going into the 10th anniversary weekend of 9/11 when news of the new iPhone would be lost won't work out well.

Invites on Monday, September 12th, event on Thursday, September 15th.

Most major announcements from Apple have always come on a Tuesday, just saying.
 
Most major announcements from Apple have always come on a Tuesday, just saying.
Monday is a holiday so they need time to get the invites out and people aware of the event so Tuesday is probably out of the question.
 
All we know is that we don't know much specific. Anyway, I am somewhat curious, my ATT contract is up and if the new phone is considerably different from the current one (i.e. not 4S but 5) AND is a world phone with roaming capabilities for Verizon I may jump the line. Question - is it worth giving up the unlimited ATT data plan...?
 
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