Best Buy Offering Free Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with TV Purchase

[divinox]

I think adoption is lot more likely than unlikely. There maybe a small percentage that get sick, but not enough that it will change the direction they are heading. There are likely as many people that get sick from overeating the popcorn as there is from watching a 3D movie.

Ever thought about looking up the context of a post before commenting on it?

Amusement rides are about amusement which sometimes leads to folks getting sick, but they go back time and time again.

Very few do it for the sake of getting sick though.

I think you miss the point. Here you have a chief competitor to the iPad, now giving away their Tablet when you buy one one of there TV's.

So? I mean, even if we ignore the mark-up, and the silly margin: So?

The bottom line is that it certainly makes Samsung look pretty bad that they are giving away these things, because you can bet your ass Apple isn't going to give away any of there iPad's.

Why? I dont think MSFT looks bad when they give away the Xbox360, nor do i think Apple looked bad when they gave away ipods.

(btw: you can bet your ass isn't trying to move 3d-tvs).

The number that they unload is not relevant, what is relevant is that it make these Galaxy Tab's appear to have less value in the marketplace. Hell they might as well do what HP is doing.

Sigh. Context is king. Not that i agree that it makes the tab look bad (or the TV for that matter, it actually looks great), but it is indeed highly relevant for figuring out whether or not they are trying to push TVs or Tabs.

 

[scoobydoo99]

And Hyundai was giving away iPads with car purchases. why is this news?

Totally different. Hyundai gave iPads with a $40K car because they wanted the iPad's chic to rub off on the car and to demonstrate that they are a hip, technologically savvy, forward-thinking company.

Best Buy is giving away Galaxy Tabs with $1500 TVs to unload inventory that no one wants.

 

[Joe-Diver]

Samsung, Blackberry and others just got boned by the HP TouchPad firesale.
All of a sudden, you now have 250K tablet users (give or take probably 50K that already had an iPad that still got a TP) that don't need a Galaxy or Playbook now.

No, you have a whole lot of people who bought a dead product on a dead platform. Suckers.

This is a HUGE blow to the other tablet makers...huge. On top of that, you now have 250K WebOS users and will see a open source/user market appear to work with WebOS stuff.

Not at all. Novelty that won't last long. No new ones being made and no support being offered. Only a matter of time....and they're already obsolete. It's a dead product and a dead platform.

Everyone of my friends and I just got a HP Touchpad today and lots of us had iPads. And the rest now have their first tablet for $99.

Congrats on buying the Edsel of the tablet world.

Android, Galaxy, Blackberry just got hurt badly. That's 250K people out of the market for something other then an iPad.

Not at all. The only ones that got hurt are the suckers who helped HP not completely lose their ass. Once these folks realize they bought the table equivalent of the HD-DVD player, BetaMax, Edsel, Corvair...etc...they'll soon be in the market again for a tablet and platform that is being supported.

It's sad and I feel bad for all those people who ran out and spent good money on an "unbelievable deal" without really realizing what was actually happening. Sort of reminds me of when HD-DVD died, but at least those folks knew BluRay had won the battle. HP is abandoning the product and the platform...HP should be very thankful the bargain hunting sheep don't realize how duped they were this weekend.

 

[ksgant]

No, but two Wrights made an airplane!

and three rights make a left.

 

[rickjs]

You are all incredibly biased. For a decent tablet that works and browses the internet, the Touchpad is pretty okay. People know not to expect support and they don't care as long as it works for what they bought it for. A portable Picture viewer, video player, music player, and internet browser. You've been drinking the apple koolaid for far too long if you really 100% think the Touchpad sucks.

And the Galaxy Tabs are actually selling pretty well. Of course the iPad is still kicking its ass, but it's still a popular product. Why don't you all try using one then complaining about it? I doubt the majority of you in here have even used one for more than 5 minutes.

 

[divinox]

No, you have a whole lot of people who bought a dead product on a dead platform. Suckers.



Not at all. Novelty that won't last long. No new ones being made and no support being offered. Only a matter of time....and they're already obsolete. It's a dead product and a dead platform.



Congrats on buying the Edsel of the tablet world.



Not at all. The only ones that got hurt are the suckers who helped HP not completely lose their ass. Once these folks realize they bought the table equivalent of the HD-DVD player, BetaMax, Edsel, Corvair...etc...they'll soon be in the market again for a tablet and platform that is being supported.

It's sad and I feel bad for all those people who ran out and spent good money on an "unbelievable deal" without really realizing what was actually happening. Sort of reminds me of when HD-DVD died, but at least those folks knew BluRay had won the battle. HP is abandoning the product and the platform...HP should be very thankful the bargain hunting sheep don't realize how duped they were this weekend.

Hp has yet to state that they are "abandoning the platform", on the contrary most announcements state the opposite - that they will keep pushing webos, although not in this very form.

As for "dead product", im quite sure it'll run android in a week or two. Worst case isn't that bad in other words, considering the price.

 

[Joe-Diver]

Hp has yet to state that they are "abandoning the platform", on the contrary most announcements state the opposite - that they will keep pushing webos, although not in this very form.

Okay...so they're going to stand behind WebOS "for now"....but not on tablets...and not on smart phones.....so, where is it going to run? PC's? No, wait, they're abandoning them too....Hmmm...a TV? Maybe.....WebOS on other produced products? Rather than Android? I don't think so.

WebOS = PalmOS, Warp2, etc.....it's a matter of time before it joins the Ouchpad.

 

[DeathChill]

And the Galaxy Tabs are actually selling pretty well. Of course the iPad is still kicking its ass, but it's still a popular product. Why don't you all try using one then complaining about it? I doubt the majority of you in here have even used one for more than 5 minutes.

Any sources for this? I don't believe it to be true and I don't know how anyone could definitively anyways because Samsung decided not to report their tablet and smartphone sales .

 

[divinox]

Okay...so they're going to stand behind WebOS "for now"....but not on tablets...and not on smart phones.....so, where is it going to run? PC's? No, wait, they're abandoning them too....Hmmm...a TV? Maybe.....WebOS on other produced products? Rather than Android? I don't think so.

WebOS = PalmOS, Warp2, etc.....it's a matter of time before it joins the Ouchpad.

Time will tell. Hp is ditching the consumer hardware market, does not mean they will throw their +1 bn software investment away.

 

[BJonson]

Typing from my galaxy tab. Bought 2 tvs so got 2 galaxy tabs, 2 3D kits, an additional 5% off the tvs and 20% off 4 accessories and 0% interest for 36 months. Sweet deal. Galaxy tab is very nice by the way.

 

[Dbrown]

Not according to the listed SKU on the link in the promotion announcement. See start of post 188 for evidence to the contrary.

That TV is a best buy only model. It's basically last year's TV with a few new features to make it look competitive with samsungs true smart tv line, 7000, and 8000.

This promo is nothing but a way to clear out Best Buy's inventory.

 

[DanteMann]

Um you have to purchase a T.V that has been marked up to cover the cost of the "give away." And the so called "blind followers" are people who want higher quality on product that will work. Not an after thought as a give away when you buy something. Given the option I choose quality over what others think.

The Galaxy Tab 10.1 destroys the iPad2 in ever way possible. Sales numbers don't mean quality. Mr.Jobs must love selling crappy tablets like the iPad and making people believe it's the best available. He gets people defending it to no end regardless of how inferior it is. He even gets people to believe others are copying it and should be banned from the market. They see the sales numbers and honestly believe it means they have a premium product. Since when do sales number equal quality product? But the best part is the blind followers don't have a clue that they're blind followers. Mr.Jobs Keep making that koolaid, it's working!

 

[Joe-Diver]

The Galaxy Tab 10.1 destroys the iPad2 in ever way possible. Sales numbers don't mean quality. Mr.Jobs must love selling crappy tablets like the iPad and making people believe it's the best available. He gets people defending it to no end regardless of how inferior it is. He even gets people to believe others are copying it and should be banned from the market. They see the sales numbers and honestly believe it means they have a premium product. Since when do sales number equal quality product? But the best part is the blind followers don't have a clue that they're blind followers. Mr.Jobs Keep making that koolaid, it's working!

LOL....denial aint just a river in Egypt. Apple "sold" (means put in consumers hands) 15 million iPads last year...more will sell this year at what, 9 million a quarter? Other tablet makers report only "channel sales" which means how many they've shipped to retailers....not how many have actually sold. They have no idea how many have sold. (not many since they're giving them away)

The people have spoken. Has nothing to do with being "told" what to do. If that was the case then the other tablets would be selling too. If it was a crap product people would not buy it.

 

[ULFoaf]

On the little time I've spent on the Galaxy Tab at Best Buy, it actually seemed pretty nice. The only thing I've seen that even comes close to an iPad as far as feeling polished.

I will still buy an iPad, though. It wasn't THAT impressive, and too expensive for a small device!

Also, the Blackberry Playbook is a horrible joke.

 

[DanteMann]

LOL....denial aint just a river in Egypt. Apple "sold" (means put in consumers hands) 15 million iPads last year...more will sell this year at what, 9 million a quarter? Other tablet makers report only "channel sales" which means how many they've shipped to retailers....not how many have actually sold. They have no idea how many have sold. (not many since they're giving them away)

The people have spoken. Has nothing to do with being "told" what to do. If that was the case then the other tablets would be selling too. If it was a crap product people would not buy it.

Again, let me ask. Since when did sales numbers equate to "the best product" or a "premium product?" The blind followers seem to only use sales numbers, or the number of apps when it suits them. So I guess Windows OS is the premium better OS since it just completely annihilates Mac OS X in sales numbers and number of Apps. In your words and blind following logic, the people have spoken. See what I did there? Of course you didn't, your blind.

 

[Ryth]

No, you have a whole lot of people who bought a dead product on a dead platform. Suckers.

Wrong. The product is a month old. HP is continuing to develop and support Web OS. Even if they dont, people just got a $327 dollar in materials alone tablet that can surf, email, movie, music, etc. That's all most want their tablet for.

Just like the iPad1, it will be a dead product soon because Apple wont support it..just the iPad2 and 3. It doesn't mean it wont be usable for years to people who only need what's on the iPad1. My folks have an iPad1 and that is all they will EVER need because it's the perfect device for them. They don't need a new one each year and they don't need the bells and whistles. the same goes for a lot of these TouchPad buyers. Most I talked to in the stores said they just wanted a tablet to consume and browse the web and surf.

Not at all. Novelty that won't last long. No new ones being made and no support being offered. Only a matter of time....and they're already obsolete. It's a dead product and a dead platform.

If it serves its purpose for everyone that got one, which is mostly consumption, then it's not obsolete or dead. Most said the same thing like you said..once the novelty wears off, they'll return their iPads. Your's is the same argument that holds no water.

Congrats on buying the Edsel of the tablet world.

Not at all. The only ones that got hurt are the suckers who helped HP not completely lose their ass. Once these folks realize they bought the table equivalent of the HD-DVD player, BetaMax, Edsel, Corvair...etc...they'll soon be in the market again for a tablet and platform that is being supported.

Betamax was superior in every way to VHS. Thats why it became the Video Editing standard. Your comparison there just shows what you don't know about some stuff. HD-DVD was superior to Blu-Ray. I work in post and we use all of these. So I guess using your analogy...everyone just got the superior product even though it's not widely used.

It's sad and I feel bad for all those people who ran out and spent good money on an "unbelievable deal" without really realizing what was actually happening. Sort of reminds me of when HD-DVD died, but at least those folks knew BluRay had won the battle. HP is abandoning the product and the platform...HP should be very thankful the bargain hunting sheep don't realize how duped they were this weekend.

Again, if they are continuing to support it, which they said they are, just no hardware, then the people will continue to get stuff for it. Plus, the user market just exploded and again, if people love it, then they are happy with their $500 tablet for $99.

You act like the iPad is the only choice. I'm pro Apple but your response to this is just stupid. This is a steal of a dead with the hardware alone and it does what most people want a tablet to do. Browse, Surf, Social Network, Email, Movie, Music and simple games.

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Hp has yet to state that they are "abandoning the platform", on the contrary most announcements state the opposite - that they will keep pushing webos, although not in this very form.

As for "dead product", im quite sure it'll run android in a week or two. Worst case isn't that bad in other words, considering the price.

It doesn't mean -- in any way, shape or form, at all -- that we are abandoning webOS. In fact, we're allowing webOS to fulfill the vision that I think everyone in the industry wants to see, and that is a viable alternative to other tablet or mobile operating systems that are out there that have their own baggage.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/the-engadget-interview-hps-stephen-dewitt-discusses-the-state/

Also, many reviewers of the HPTouchPad didn't realize that the newest build is much more fluid and also if you allow it to synch up in the background after some time...then supposedly it really starts moving..lots of the UI lag supposedly is from synching.

Who knows. It's a great tablet for the price. You can't even get a color nook at that price.

And in terms of performance...someone just posted a fix to make the tablet haul @$$

Unfortunately there is still enough debugging going on in the background that it still impacts the TouchPad’s performance. The homebrew community of webOS developers recognized this and created three software patches that address the remaining event logging happening all the time in the background. Once these three homebrew patches are applied, and no problem is created when you do, the TouchPad becomes as fast as any tablet on the market based on my real-world experience.

I am not against facilitating debugging systems to understand what happened when things go wrong, but it is obvious through the performance gains observed by disabling it that HP went too far overboard.

This may seem like a big effort but the truth is it is a very simple process once you get going. You can complete it all in just a few minutes and the benefits you will observe will be noticeable. HP really shot itself in the foot by enabling all of this performance-clogging background activity by default. Now you can enjoy your speedy new TouchPad, or even better enter the world of overclocking if you want to take it to another level.

 

[Andronicus]

No, you have a whole lot of people who bought a dead product on a dead platform. Suckers.



Not at all. Novelty that won't last long. No new ones being made and no support being offered. Only a matter of time....and they're already obsolete. It's a dead product and a dead platform.



Congrats on buying the Edsel of the tablet world.



Not at all. The only ones that got hurt are the suckers who helped HP not completely lose their ass. Once these folks realize they bought the table equivalent of the HD-DVD player, BetaMax, Edsel, Corvair...etc...they'll soon be in the market again for a tablet and platform that is being supported.

It's sad and I feel bad for all those people who ran out and spent good money on an "unbelievable deal" without really realizing what was actually happening. Sort of reminds me of when HD-DVD died, but at least those folks knew BluRay had won the battle. HP is abandoning the product and the platform...HP should be very thankful the bargain hunting sheep don't realize how duped they were this weekend.

I'm glad you're getting downranked for your ridiculous rant.

 

[MacNewsFix]

What is the difference, panel-wise, between say 55C and 55D? Any clue?

Your point? Are you saying that they are not the same TV even though the SKUs are the same?

If the lag is substantial, yes ofc. Then again, there are only so many good ideas for apps and a ton of wannabe-appmakers (imo. Apple should've been even stricter on control, that wouldve been a real selling point).

Apple already gets raked across the coals for the screening they do now, while its critics applaud Google's "anything goes" approach. The press would have a feel day. Look at the outcry from some corners about them removing UDIDs in iOS 5 after some devs (ex. Pandora, WeatherChannel, Dictionary.com) got busted sharing that info with third-parties. Again, sucks ethical devs have to pay, too, now.

Im also surprised that no one has taken advantage of the mere fact that one can create an app store for the android platform (amazon has, but probably with a different model then the one suggested).

They have indeed (LINK). It has turned out to be a boon for my friends working in the Web security industry.

Then i ask once again: Even if we assume that BB has a blow-out and sell 100k devices, what difference would that really make in the end? Now, be more realistic and say theyll off-load what? Less then 10k? How will that make a change, really?

I think you may be confusing me with someone else. I never argued that this was a major push to liquidate the Galaxy Tab on the same magnitude as their HP fire sale. Just the opposite. However, the fact that it is being packaged in with a TV (or as the promotion puts it, "Best Buy is including a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with the purchase of select Samsung HDTVs"), combined with the fact that it doesn't look like they jacked the price of the TV to cover the cost of the entire loss on the Galaxy Tab, speaks volumes of its success measured against the iPad 2. Remember, it was hard to find the iPad 2 for months after it was released.

I'm not sure why we're arguing when we both seem to agree that neither 3D TVs or the Galaxy Tab is going to be helping Best Buy's bottom-line this quarter. As someone that lives near the BB HQ and, thus, has a modicum of tied interest to BB's success, I find such news less than encouraging.

From a recent earnings report article quoting Best Buy's CEO:

The TV market was down significantly last year, caused in large part by demand for IPTV and 3D TV that did not materialize as the industry had anticipated.

Again, I find this thread's new story to have a legit premise: the Galaxy Tab is not enjoying anywhere near the success of the iPad 2. Apparently, others are coming to the same conclusion. From http://www.zdnet.com/blog/home-thea...er-bundling-two-losing-products-together/5187

But that’s not how everyone is looking at it. Samsung says the promotion is design to boost TV sales, not tablet sales, which is a bit of a bad sign for the HDTV industry. It confirms research that shows that demand for new sets is flat, and that 3D wasn’t the panacea manufacturers had hoped. However, given the HP TouchPad’s unceremonious exit from the stage last week, one can’t help but question how well other tablets are selling in the face of the iPad onslaught.​

Anyway, we'll see if the iPad 3 gets bundled free with Apple's HDTVs if they ever launch.

 

[divinox]

Again, let me ask. Since when did sales numbers equate to "the best product" or a "premium product?" The blind followers seem to only use sales numbers, or the number of apps when it suits them. So I guess Windows OS is the premium better OS since it just completely annihilates Mac OS X in sales numbers and number of Apps. In your words and blind following logic, the people have spoken. See what I did there? Of course you didn't, your blind.

Win7 sold 400 million licenses in under 2 years. If true, it is the fastest selling OS of all times. Not bad for a "crappy OS".

(Disclaimer: i've spent roughly 98% of my time on os x the past 2 years. I still think that W7 is superior to SL. At least when it comes to my own productivity. SL is good enough though).

 

[divinox]

Your point? Are you saying that they are not the same TV even though the SKUs are the same?

My point? I was wondering if this is a new TV, or an old TV in a new package (like so many times before in this industry). Valid question, imo.

Apple already gets raked across the coals for the screening they do now, while its critics applaud Google's "anything goes" approach.

Across the coals by people who wouldn't buy their device anyway. Cater for your consumers, not everyone else.

The press would have a feel day. Look at the outcry from some corners about them removing UDIDs in iOS 5 after some devs (ex. Pandora, WeatherChannel, Dictionary.com) got busted sharing that info with third-parties. Again, sucks ethical devs have to pay, too, now.

Fail to see how the connection.

They have indeed (LINK). It has turned out to be a boon for my friends working in the Web security industry.

Ah, ok. Never cared much for Android (or iToys for that matter, not due to the products themselves but due to Jobs vision and ideals clashing with my own).

I think you may be confusing me with someone else.

Maybe so.

I never argued that this was a major push to liquidate the Galaxy Tab on the same magnitude as their HP fire sale. Just the opposite. However, the fact that it is being packaged in with a TV (or as the promotion puts it, "Best Buy is including a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with the purchase of select Samsung HDTVs"), combined with the fact that it doesn't look like they jacked the price of the TV to cover the cost of the entire loss on the Galaxy Tab, speaks volumes of its success measured against the iPad 2.

No idea about the margins on these babies. From what i read here they marked it up a few hundred bucks. If so, i'd say the device is pretty much covered. That said, tabs are probably not flying off the shelves. The promo much still make sense though, even if they were (if we assume that they primarily want to move TVs).

Remember, it was hard to find the iPad 2 for months after it was released.

Many devoted followers makes selling big easy :- )

I'm not sure why we're arguing when we both seem to agree that neither 3D TVs or the Galaxy Tab is going to be helping Best Buy's bottom-line this quarter. As someone that lives near the BB HQ and, thus, has a modicum of tied interest to BB's success, I find such news less than encouraging.

My guess is that its about the future. 3d is a premium feature, with high margins. If they can kick start adoption they (both sammy and bb) could earn a nice buck. (right now electronics such as TVs are crummy deals for both producers and resellers. heck, in sweden the big ones have been running loss-strategies for years in the fight for market shares. just a couple of weeks ago one of the largest resellers ended up filing for bankruptcy because of it.

From a recent earnings report article quoting Best Buy's CEO:

The TV market was down significantly last year, caused in large part by demand for IPTV and 3D TV that did not materialize as the industry had anticipated.

Again, I find this thread's new story to have a legit premise: the Galaxy Tab is not enjoying anywhere near the success of the iPad 2. Apparently, others are coming to the same conclusion. From http://www.zdnet.com/blog/home-thea...er-bundling-two-losing-products-together/5187

Not sure if anyone ever thought the tab would outsell the pad. Apple is the hip product right now. Hip products generally are hard to beat, regardless of what competitors are offering (like i said to someone else the other day: ask your mom/wife/whatever what brand of jeans that was the **** back then, and how much money they would spend just to have'm).

But that’s not how everyone is looking at it. Samsung says the promotion is design to boost TV sales, not tablet sales, which is a bit of a bad sign for the HDTV industry. It confirms research that shows that demand for new sets is flat, and that 3D wasn’t the panacea manufacturers had hoped. However, given the HP TouchPad’s unceremonious exit from the stage last week, one can’t help but question how well other tablets are selling in the face of the iPad onslaught.​

Anyway, we'll see if the iPad 3 gets bundled free with Apple's HDTVs if they ever launch.

Once again: This promo will not create any volumes to speak of. As such, they make very little difference as far as the tab goes. Simple as that.

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Wrong. The product is a month old. HP is continuing to develop and support Web OS. Even if they dont, people just got a $327 dollar in materials alone tablet that can surf, email, movie, music, etc. That's all most want their tablet for.

Just like the iPad1, it will be a dead product soon because Apple wont support it..just the iPad2 and 3. It doesn't mean it wont be usable for years to people who only need what's on the iPad1. My folks have an iPad1 and that is all they will EVER need because it's the perfect device for them. They don't need a new one each year and they don't need the bells and whistles. the same goes for a lot of these TouchPad buyers. Most I talked to in the stores said they just wanted a tablet to consume and browse the web and surf.



If it serves its purpose for everyone that got one, which is mostly consumption, then it's not obsolete or dead. Most said the same thing like you said..once the novelty wears off, they'll return their iPads. Your's is the same argument that holds no water.



Betamax was superior in every way to VHS. Thats why it became the Video Editing standard. Your comparison there just shows what you don't know about some stuff. HD-DVD was superior to Blu-Ray. I work in post and we use all of these. So I guess using your analogy...everyone just got the superior product even though it's not widely used.



Again, if they are continuing to support it, which they said they are, just no hardware, then the people will continue to get stuff for it. Plus, the user market just exploded and again, if people love it, then they are happy with their $500 tablet for $99.

You act like the iPad is the only choice. I'm pro Apple but your response to this is just stupid. This is a steal of a dead with the hardware alone and it does what most people want a tablet to do. Browse, Surf, Social Network, Email, Movie, Music and simple games.

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/the-engadget-interview-hps-stephen-dewitt-discusses-the-state/

Also, many reviewers of the HPTouchPad didn't realize that the newest build is much more fluid and also if you allow it to synch up in the background after some time...then supposedly it really starts moving..lots of the UI lag supposedly is from synching.

Who knows. It's a great tablet for the price. You can't even get a color nook at that price.

And in terms of performance...someone just posted a fix to make the tablet haul @$$

Unfortunately there is still enough debugging going on in the background that it still impacts the TouchPad’s performance. The homebrew community of webOS developers recognized this and created three software patches that address the remaining event logging happening all the time in the background. Once these three homebrew patches are applied, and no problem is created when you do, the TouchPad becomes as fast as any tablet on the market based on my real-world experience.

I am not against facilitating debugging systems to understand what happened when things go wrong, but it is obvious through the performance gains observed by disabling it that HP went too far overboard.

This may seem like a big effort but the truth is it is a very simple process once you get going. You can complete it all in just a few minutes and the benefits you will observe will be noticeable. HP really shot itself in the foot by enabling all of this performance-clogging background activity by default. Now you can enjoy your speedy new TouchPad, or even better enter the world of overclocking if you want to take it to another level.

What Hp should really do right now is "open the vault", and actively help people tweak these babies to hel.. er, heaven. Heck, this could turn out to be a brilliant mistake of theirs. Sure, chances are probably slim that Hp will be able to turn this around, but if someone can its the legion of geeks who are right now tinkering with this product, trying to figure out what they can do.

Never underestimate the power of tinkering. After all, we need look no further than the iphone for an example of what it can do.

 

[OTACORB]

Ever thought about looking up the context of a post before commenting on it?

Why? I dont think MSFT looks bad when they give away the Xbox360, nor do i think Apple looked bad when they gave away ipods.

(btw: you can bet your ass isn't trying to move 3d-tvs).

I see you rambling a lot and arguing with everyone, but your content is pretty lacking and clearly you believe what you are saying, but you just aren't very convincing.

Apple has given away iPod's at the end of their life cycle when they are on the verge of announcing a new model. They aren't giving away there newly released model that just hit the shelves a month ago.

Don't even get me started on MS, they lost money with the XB360 for years, and in fact just recently actually started making money. That took how many years. They had to give them away they weren't selling them, but they eventually threw enough of them into the market that they got some traction.

I get your point about the 3D TV and the Galaxy Tab, what is the goal. It still doesn't change the fact that the Galaxy tab being given away vs iPad 2's in the market place. It certainly sets there market value. If you don't see that, then you are blind.

The only thing that you've convinced me of is that you've convinced yourself! LOL

 

[divinox]

I see you rambling a lot and arguing with everyone, but your content is pretty lacking and clearly you believe what you are saying, but you just aren't very convincing.

Its usually hard to convince people who dont care to check up on the context in which things are posted. Hardly stimulating either.

Apple has given away iPod's at the end of their life cycle when they are on the verge of announcing a new model. They aren't giving away there newly released model that just hit the shelves a month ago.

Yeah, we've read this about a hundred times by now.

Don't even get me started on MS, they lost money with the XB360 for years, and in fact just recently actually started making money.

Hardly news. Simply put, its the price they had to pay to enter the market. Looking at things right now, money well spent. (I never thought MSFT would make it, especially not after the original Xbox. I stand corrected.)

That took how many years. They had to give them away they weren't selling them, but they eventually threw enough of them into the market that they got some traction.

Nonsense. They were selling them, lots of them too; Heck, they still do. Simply put, they are just using the common* business model in the sector (give away the razor, make money on the blades).

* common is a bit meh, as Nintendo rarely sells consoles below manufacturing cost, but it is as common as it can get in a market with very few players to look at.

Im not the console geek i used to be. Sure, i own a 360 and a ps3 (both gifts from my lovely girlfriend), but im not the kind of guy that buys every console out there anymore. To me, Xbox 360 is, was, and continues to be a very solid device, well worth its cost. Looking at total sales, lots of people agree. (If live was free rather than a premium service i would pick it over the ps3 every day of the week).

Anyway, to cut things short: promotional offers does not necessarily make products look bad. You may think so, but then i'd say you are the odd bird here - not me.

I get your point about the 3D TV and the Galaxy Tab, what is the goal. It still doesn't change the fact that the Galaxy tab being given away vs iPad 2's in the market place. It certainly sets there market value. If you don't see that, then you are blind.

Which could be done even if tables were turned (i.e. Tabs sold as hell). This reduces your point into what it really is - nothing. (i.e., they could use the popularity* of the tab to make people look at the 3d-tv).

* not saying it is popular, i really dont know.

To me, that last parenthesis is probably closer to the truth than one would first think. Tablets are hot. Sure most heat is coming from the ipad, but they could use that heat to come up with a promotional deal that makes their 3d-tv more eye catching.

Further, once more: they will move no significant volumes, thus if this was a ploy to get tabs out of the door they are flat out stupid.

The only thing that you've convinced me of is that you've convinced yourself! LOL

 

[kingtj]

I don't think the Tab is "bad" ...

But the deal here is, yes, the TVs are being marked up enough to cover their ability to throw in the tablets without really taking a loss.

For example, I saw a deal online just last week where you could buy a 60" LG branded LCD 3D television AND 2 pairs of the 3D glasses for it, all for $1,249. By any measure, that's a much better value than either of these Samsung TVs Best Buy is selling.

(http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=LG60PZ550)

You are all incredibly biased. For a decent tablet that works and browses the internet, the Touchpad is pretty okay. People know not to expect support and they don't care as long as it works for what they bought it for. A portable Picture viewer, video player, music player, and internet browser. You've been drinking the apple koolaid for far too long if you really 100% think the Touchpad sucks.

And the Galaxy Tabs are actually selling pretty well. Of course the iPad is still kicking its ass, but it's still a popular product. Why don't you all try using one then complaining about it? I doubt the majority of you in here have even used one for more than 5 minutes.

 

[OTACORB]

Its usually hard to convince people who dont care to check up on the context in which things are posted. Hardly stimulating either.

Yeah that seems to be really important to you doesn't it, like it makes a damn. Ramble on! LOL

 

[DanteMann]

Win7 sold 400 million licenses in under 2 years. If true, it is the fastest selling OS of all times. Not bad for a "crappy OS".

(Disclaimer: i've spent roughly 98% of my time on os x the past 2 years. I still think that W7 is superior to SL. At least when it comes to my own productivity. SL is good enough though).

I agree. Windows 8 looks to be even more promising.
I was just pointing out how So many of the blind followers of Apple like to go by sales numbers when it suits them. So if they want to use sales numbers to equate to a superior product, they need to be ready to concede Windows OS as a superior product to OS X for that very reason. Which they don't want to do.