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That-Guy

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Just wondering what email apps people are using in Mavericks?

My domains emails are setup using Outlook.com which doesn't seem to play nice with the OS X Mail App. It sets up fine but deleting messages from the app will not remove them from the server, the support from MS has been less than helpful.

Anyway I was looking at a popular app called Airmail (in the app store) but seems to have a real mixed bag of reviews so not sure if it will be a good app to pay for or not.

The only other app which I have heard of is Sparrow but that obviously hasn't been updated for a year.

Anyone have any other Mail App Suggestions, experience with the Airmail App or even have a Outlook.com email address setup and working in the OS X Mail App?

Thanks in Advance!
 
Just wondering what email apps people are using in Mavericks?

My domains emails are setup using Outlook.com which doesn't seem to play nice with the OS X Mail App. It sets up fine but deleting messages from the app will not remove them from the server, the support from MS has been less than helpful.

Anyway I was looking at a popular app called Airmail (in the app store) but seems to have a real mixed bag of reviews so not sure if it will be a good app to pay for or not.

The only other app which I have heard of is Sparrow but that obviously hasn't been updated for a year.

Anyone have any other Mail App Suggestions, experience with the Airmail App or even have a Outlook.com email address setup and working in the OS X Mail App?

Thanks in Advance!

Have you looked at Unibox?
 
PowerMail

Using PowerMail here, on 10.9.
No issues, and it picks up mail that Apple's Mail refuses to "see" (granted a rare case but if I didn't have PowerMail I would have lost a very good new client and job!).
Using POP here - check the HP;
http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/
for IMAP, I have not even checked to see if that is implemented.
 
Just wondering what email apps people are using in Mavericks?

My domains emails are setup using Outlook.com which doesn't seem to play nice with the OS X Mail App. It sets up fine but deleting messages from the app will not remove them from the server, the support from MS has been less than helpful.

Anyway I was looking at a popular app called Airmail (in the app store) but seems to have a real mixed bag of reviews so not sure if it will be a good app to pay for or not.

The only other app which I have heard of is Sparrow but that obviously hasn't been updated for a year.

Anyone have any other Mail App Suggestions, experience with the Airmail App or even have a Outlook.com email address setup and working in the OS X Mail App?

Thanks in Advance!

How do you have your account set up in mail? IMAP or POP?
 
I bought Airmail about 3 weeks ago and love it. Before that I was a long time Apple Mail user. I didn't get Airmail to make my gmail work, it was working fine in Apple mail before (rare case among many). Though all the people having that gmail issue switched to airmail and I got curious.

It is light, feature rich, neat ui and a nicely priced at $2
 
I'm looking for an alternative client too, given that Apple Mail now only periodically downloads email from my two IMAP accounts and gets stuck forever on "Writing changes to disk".

Does Airmail support folders? By that, I mean in Gmail I use a tonne of folders and subfolders, and move mail between them for filing. I know technically these are labels, not folders, but a lot of clients have trouble displaying them properly.

Thunderbird has a problem with one of my SMTP servers.
Postbox keeps crashing.
Sparrow gives me a giant list of Gmail labels that is impossible to navigate.
Inky can't load big Gmail folders.

I haven't tried PowerMail yet.
 
Thanks for the suggestions guys, Airmail is still tempting me in so may give it a whirl, its cheap enough I guess.

How do you have your account set up in mail? IMAP or POP?

IMAP following the instructions on the Outlook site, even the support "engineers" can't understand why its not working. Have tried on two separate machines now and still getting the same problem.
 
Have you tried Postbox? Its been around a little while (up to version 3), is less than $10, and has a 30 day trial.

http://www.postbox-inc.com

Using it, too. There are many handy features built in: Evernote clipping support, Dropbox upload for big attachements, Gravatar profile pictures support. And there are some third-party extensions, like GnuPG support.
 
You know, I thought this thread would be much longer.

Looking into Postbox, I can see why doesn't need to be. Looks and seems to work brilliantly. Think I'll be paying up way before the free trial ends.

Wish it was in the App Store. I'd pay up again, just to get the pushed updates.

Mavericks has seen a quadrupling of my internet usage, which is intolerable. I never used half my plan cap before, now it's gone in 2 weeks.

Sorry Apple. This is the worst new OS X-for-Mac Mail stuff-up ever (and there's been PLENTY). I've never had any long-term complaints about Mail, I loved it, but this one broke the camel's back.

To release an OS without testing against the largest email provider… is unforgivable.

Hello Postbox!
 
Does anyone know of a Mac mail client that acts similarly to the Mail app on iOS?

In other words, it only caches the most recent [xxx] messages rather than trying to download the entire mailbox?

I have an enormous Yahoo mailbox, and their new webmail UX is so terrible I'd rather use a client to access it. But I don't want to bother with trying to clean out the millions of messages I have on there. So I'd like a Mac mail client that only keeps recent messages locally.

I made the mistake of configuring Mac Mail to my Yahoo account once and it locked up trying to download the enormity of my Yahoo mailbox. Had to kill the process.

Any suggestions? Thanks!
 
I really wanted to like Airmail, but the UI completely throws me off for some reason. I can't read things as quickly as in regular Apple Mail - it's just so visually... I don't know. Heavy? Overworked? It's almost like the various windows and sections don't match each other in a visual sense, so it bothers me. I like the very minimal, out of the way look of apple mail.
 
You know, I thought this thread would be much longer.

Looking into Postbox, I can see why doesn't need to be. Looks and seems to work brilliantly. Think I'll be paying up way before the free trial ends.

Wish it was in the App Store. I'd pay up again, just to get the pushed updates.

Mavericks has seen a quadrupling of my internet usage, which is intolerable. I never used half my plan cap before, now it's gone in 2 weeks.

Sorry Apple. This is the worst new OS X-for-Mac Mail stuff-up ever (and there's been PLENTY). I've never had any long-term complaints about Mail, I loved it, but this one broke the camel's back.

To release an OS without testing against the largest email provider… is unforgivable.

Hello Postbox!

I've been using Postbox for a couple of weeks now, and really like it, except:

It's started slowing down. And by that, I mean if I compose a new email or reply to one, and start typing, there is a big delay between me hitting the keys and the text appearing on screen. I haven't seen that kind of lag in modern computing in a while!

This is running in Mavericks on 2.3GHz i7 Mac mini with 16GB of RAM, no other applications open. The lag is so bad that I've actually, temporarily, gone back to Apple Mail.

Postbox has also randomly changed my new mail sound to a calendar alert sound. No matter what I change the setting to - I had made a copy of Apple's new mail sound and put the aiff file somewhere for Postbox to us - it won't change it from the calendar alert sound.

I've already removed and reinstalled Postbox once using App Zapper after it kept crashing. So I'm... unconvinced. The slowdown makes it impossible to use.

I am actually pretty amazed at the lack of good email clients. Although, whenever I ask on Twitter or other places, the response I usually get is one of disbelief that I'm still using a mail client rather than a web portal. Well... I have custom IMAP services I need to access!

It's a shame that dotmail appears to have stopped development.
 
I stopped using Mail.app in ML due to it slowing down horribly. I switched to Sparrow (version 1.6.3) and it worked superbly. I was really dreading moving to Mavericks and potentially losing Sparrow, but luckily it works absolutely great on 10.9 as well. (reports show that the newer 1.6.4 on the MAS work fine as well).
Something to be said that a year after development stopped, its still top notch. :)
 
Actually Mail really sucks ... almost everyone of us has had a problem with it (and it's often a different new one !) : if it wasn't for the price which is out of the world for me, I'd get back to something like Outlook for Mac ...
 
Despite wishing for a better and more current solution, I'm still using Sparrow. Airmail doesn't do it for me. Maybe I'm extra picky but I don't see Airmail as the second coming of Sparrow. It's too messy and disorganized. Sparrow is extremely clean and SIMPLE! I guess the benefit of IMAP is the protocol doesn't really change. So unless an OS X update breaks Sparrow, I guess we're set for a while.
 
I love Sparrow too - I just wish it integrated with all the bits of Mavericks that interface with Mail, like sending an image from within iPhoto, or sending an attachment from within Finder. Any apps do this?
 
The only other mail app that comes to mind you did not mention is the free app Thunderbird.

Active Thunderbird development was abandoned by the Mozilla Foundation about 18 months ago.

There is a chance that another group will take up the reins in actively pushing for added functionality in future versions of Thunderbird, but my bet is that this Mozilla product just falls into disrepair and finally oblivion based on the fact that no one has stepped up to the plate at this time.

Basically, Thunderbird is a dead end.

While I admire the mission goals of the Mozilla Foundation, their recent efforts in the past five years have fallen woefully short.

Particularly, they did not adequately adjust to the shift toward the mobile Internet. They have basically been shut out of the largest market on this planet, mostly due to their short-sightedness.
 
One advantage to having you own web site is you define the email protocol, turn on server-based spam filter such as spam assassin, define new email accounts, set up mail forwarding,.......etc.

You can set up a web page hosting account for $5 a month or less.
 
You know, I thought this thread would be much longer.

Looking into Postbox, I can see why doesn't need to be. Looks and seems to work brilliantly. Think I'll be paying up way before the free trial ends.

Wish it was in the App Store. I'd pay up again, just to get the pushed updates.

Mavericks has seen a quadrupling of my internet usage, which is intolerable. I never used half my plan cap before, now it's gone in 2 weeks.

Sorry Apple. This is the worst new OS X-for-Mac Mail stuff-up ever (and there's been PLENTY). I've never had any long-term complaints about Mail, I loved it, but this one broke the camel's back.

To release an OS without testing against the largest email provider… is unforgivable.

Hello Postbox!

Can someone unpack this post for me a bit? I wasn't aware Mavericks expanded email data so much?

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Active Thunderbird development was abandoned by the Mozilla Foundation about 18 months ago.

There is a chance that another group will take up the reins in actively pushing for added functionality in future versions of Thunderbird, but my bet is that this Mozilla product just falls into disrepair and finally oblivion based on the fact that no one has stepped up to the plate at this time.

Basically, Thunderbird is a dead end.

While I admire the mission goals of the Mozilla Foundation, their recent efforts in the past five years have fallen woefully short.

Particularly, they did not adequately adjust to the shift toward the mobile Internet. They have basically been shut out of the largest market on this planet, mostly due to their short-sightedness.

Thanks for posting that, but it's not good news! I was always kind of reassured that TBird was out there... and that I could turn to it if I needed to. This news sucks!

So why do long term Mac users hate Mail so much? I admit I just had a problem with 'phantom' emails, but after asking here and googling around a bit, I was able to find a solution. Surely the problems are just passing?

Does Mac actually respond to user feedback?

AND WHY IS THUNDERBIRD DYING! :confused: :eek: Sorry, I'm in a state of shock about that. It would be like hearing that Open Office / Libre Office were both dying...
 
So why do long term Mac users hate Mail so much? I admit I just had a problem with 'phantom' emails, but after asking here and googling around a bit, I was able to find a solution. Surely the problems are just passing?

Because the iOS 7 Mail shows how a Mail App should be done, right. It's a sublime Mail App and I expect better when using the OS X Mail App.
 
Anyone use Opera Mail? It's also free.

http://www.macworld.com/article/2058525/ditch-maverickss-mail-other-email-apps-you-can-try.html

But it is company owned. It's bigger than I thought, because it is also for Windows and Mac and Linux. I'm not sure if using it exposes you to lots of in-app adds? How do they get their revenue if it's free?

Opera products enable more than 350 million internet consumers to discover and connect with the content and services that matter most to them, no matter what device, network or location. In turn, we help advertisers reach the audiences that build value for their businesses. Opera also delivers products and services to more than 120 operators around the world, enabling them to provide a faster, more economical and better network experience to their subscribers.
http://www.opera.com/about

What does this actually mean?
 
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