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Best Email App for Mavericks?

the problems I was having with .mail and gmail were...

1. asking me for passwords whenever sending a new mail. Happens sporadically

2. An old email will randomly show up in a new email thread (very strange)
 
einmusiker said:
the problems I was having with .mail and gmail were...

1. asking me for passwords whenever sending a new mail. Happens sporadically

2. An old email will randomly show up in a new email thread (very strange)
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Those are just a few problems I encountered.
My ipads started to ask me for password sporadically, too and so did my windows phone.

After i stopped using outlook and macmail this stopped.

This started to happen about 9 months ago. Before i never had this problem.
Outlook is completely unusable, the apple mail app is pretty much useless, too.
I am just using gmail and yahoo mail without any extra mumbo jumbo.
It should work just fine. Its a complete mystery to me. 😕
 
Dave2084 said:
Just got my first mac a week ago (rMBP 15") as I needed a new laptop and the disaster that is Windows 8.1 drove me to mac (not that I needed much pushing).

On windows I was a long time Thunderbird user, but there are a few shortcoming on OSX that made me look elsewhere ...

Any ideas what else I can try to change my setup and/or habits entirely to embrace something new. Now I've moved platform now is the time before I get stuck in my ways again ;-)
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You should give Postbox a try. It's a modified commercial version of Thunderbird and has Windows and OS X versions.
 
Thanks Tuthill, after a quick play I'm already all but sold on it.

Have a months trial before I have to part with my £7 ($10) 🙂
 
The best feature of OS X, and its biggest selling point to me, has been the Mail.app program. It is free, beautiful, and works great. Until ML + Mavericks, esp. Mavericks. How did Apple drop the ball so hard and why are we not angry at them for creating their version of a Windows Vista in many ways?
 
Dave2084 said:
Thanks Tuthill, after a quick play I'm already all but sold on it.

Have a months trial before I have to part with my £7 ($10) 🙂
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Hi Dave and Tuthill and others. Do you trust the Postbox vendor to be around in 5 years? If not, how do you move your mail archives back into other software? Does Mail.app save archived emails in a format that is easy to shift to other apps? I'd hate to be locked into something that then went bankrupt or closed or stopped being supported, and that mucked up all my old email archives.

Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying Postbox and would love to hear back in this exact threat if you have any problems with it. Please jot down a few paragraphs and how you solved it and report back here if something did go wrong. Cheers.
 
eclipse said:
Hi Dave and Tuthill and others. Do you trust the Postbox vendor to be around in 5 years? If not, how do you move your mail archives back into other software? Does Mail.app save archived emails in a format that is easy to shift to other apps? I'd hate to be locked into something that then went bankrupt or closed or stopped being supported, and that mucked up all my old email archives.
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I wondered that, but as Postbox is Thunderbird on Steroids the core file formats are probably the same, certainly close enough for drag and drop migration:

Going back to Thunderbird:
http://www.postbox-inc.com/support/exporting_to_thunderbird

Going Back to Apple Mail:
http://www.postbox-inc.com/support/exporting_to_apple_mail

eclipse said:
Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying Postbox and would love to hear back in this exact threat if you have any problems with it. Please jot down a few paragraphs and how you solved it and report back here if something did go wrong. Cheers.
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The only issue I've had is the twitter integration doesn't work, but that's not something I'm bothered about. This is a known issue due to be solved in v3.0.9. This version is however several months late as it was promised in November.

Everything on my Thunderbird annoyance list is implemented or fixed in Postbox and it has core support for almost all of the add-ins that I use.

The only gotcha might be if you use an unsupported Thunderbird add-in as they have to be updated to allow use in Postbox.
 
eclipse said:
Do you trust the Postbox vendor to be around in 5 years?
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I use my email providers on an imap basis so its irrelevant, if any client has a problem, simply switch to a new one, my email archive is held on the providers server, not tucked away in any clients format...
 
eclipse said:
Hi Dave and Tuthill and others. Do you trust the Postbox vendor to be around in 5 years? If not, how do you move your mail archives back into other software? Does Mail.app save archived emails in a format that is easy to shift to other apps? I'd hate to be locked into something that then went bankrupt or closed or stopped being supported, and that mucked up all my old email archives.

Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying Postbox and would love to hear back in this exact threat if you have any problems with it. Please jot down a few paragraphs and how you solved it and report back here if something did go wrong. Cheers.
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I've changed email clients many times over the past 20 years or so and have never lost any of my email when switching over. There always seems to be some converter out there that enables you to export and import into the new client. In addition I have a Keepers folder that sits on a Shaw folder. I can simply copy them over to the Inbox online and then download them to the email client and once that is done copy them back to the Keepers folder online. There are many ways to skin a cat🙂
 
simonsi said:
I use my email providers on an imap basis so its irrelevant, if any client has a problem, simply switch to a new one, my email archive is held on the providers server, not tucked away in any clients format...
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this is what I do too and I believe most email apps default to imap these days (that used to not be the case with apple mail)
 
adyf said:
Just ordered my first MacBook pro, isn't the built in mail app any good? Seems ok on my iPad.
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By reading through this thread - or others - you'll see that some people do have problems with it not working with their email properly and/or they just don't like how it functions/looks/something. Might work great for you so don't worry, just know there are other options out there as well.
 
Dave2084 said:
I wondered that, but as Postbox is Thunderbird on Steroids the core file formats are probably the same, certainly close enough for drag and drop migration:

Going back to Thunderbird:
http://www.postbox-inc.com/support/exporting_to_thunderbird

Going Back to Apple Mail:
http://www.postbox-inc.com/support/exporting_to_apple_mail



The only issue I've had is the twitter integration doesn't work, but that's not something I'm bothered about. This is a known issue due to be solved in v3.0.9. This version is however several months late as it was promised in November.

Everything on my Thunderbird annoyance list is implemented or fixed in Postbox and it has core support for almost all of the add-ins that I use.

The only gotcha might be if you use an unsupported Thunderbird add-in as they have to be updated to allow use in Postbox.
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Wow, the way people add extras into mail amazes me. I always try to stay as vanilla as possible. Vanilla embiggens the man! 😉
 
Fuchal said:
Despite wishing for a better and more current solution, I'm still using Sparrow. Airmail doesn't do it for me. Maybe I'm extra picky but I don't see Airmail as the second coming of Sparrow. It's too messy and disorganized. Sparrow is extremely clean and SIMPLE! I guess the benefit of IMAP is the protocol doesn't really change. So unless an OS X update breaks Sparrow, I guess we're set for a while.
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Sparrow's been acquired by Google, which is what I'm trying to escape from. I set up live.com accounts to migrate my gmail accounts to and I'll phase out gmail. Live.com (outlook.com) works fine with the apple mail app, but I'd like to reserve that app for a mail service I use through the alumni assoc at my university.

Anyway, I'll keep reading for more ideas.
 
tonyc46 said:
Sparrow's been acquired by Google, which is what I'm trying to escape from. I set up live.com accounts to migrate my gmail accounts to and I'll phase out gmail. Live.com (outlook.com) works fine with the apple mail app, but I'd like to reserve that app for a mail service I use through the alumni assoc at my university.

Anyway, I'll keep reading for more ideas.
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I too am migrating away from Google as much as I can. Got an Outlook mail address, but also use my iCloud.com address. Both work great with the standard mail app.
 
tonyc46 said:
Sparrow's been acquired by Google, which is what I'm trying to escape from. I set up live.com accounts to migrate my gmail accounts to and I'll phase out gmail. Live.com (outlook.com) works fine with the apple mail app, but I'd like to reserve that app for a mail service I use through the alumni assoc at my university.

Anyway, I'll keep reading for more ideas.
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Hi,
why the move away from gmail? Heaps of storage, and seems to work fine for me?
 
eclipse said:
Hi,
why the move away from gmail? Heaps of storage, and seems to work fine for me?
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For me, gmail was the cutting edge for a long while, you just couldn't get better email than that. Lately though, gmail has changed things on us like the imap process that they have 'tweaked' for who knows what purpose. Add to that gmail (Google) has publicly stated that they go through all mail, doc's etc. for the purpose of selling advertising and mining any usable data they can get... Also, ever wonder why you can't really delete your mail in gmail? It will always be there in All Mail. If I want it to be deleted, I want it gone... It all just has the 'big brother' feel to it...

Yes, other email providers probably do the same thing, just not so blatantly, and at least for me, I have a better personal feeling of security with iCloud mail (Apple) than the others.
 
stisdal said:
For me, gmail was the cutting edge for a long while, you just couldn't get better email than that. Lately though, gmail has changed things on us like the imap process that they have 'tweaked' for who knows what purpose. Add to that gmail (Google) has publicly stated that they go through all mail, doc's etc. for the purpose of selling advertising and mining any usable data they can get... Also, ever wonder why you can't really delete your mail in gmail? It will always be there in All Mail. If I want it to be deleted, I want it gone... It all just has the 'big brother' feel to it...

Yes, other email providers probably do the same thing, just not so blatantly, and at least for me, I have a better personal feeling of security with iCloud mail (Apple) than the others.
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😕 You can easily delete your mail in Gmail. I constantly do this, and no I don't have the mails in All Mail unless I archive.
 
My mail.app phantom flag is back. It's popped up with 1 email to answer, but when I go into my in boxes there's nothing unread there. Very frustrating! I thought I had fixed this. Now I have to trawl around and find the answer again.
 
I've been using airmail for a few months. Works pretty well with my gmail accounts. Only issue is searching is much much slower than .mail
 
albusseverus said:
I trust Apple will still be working out the bugs in Mavericks Mail...
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"still"? have you seen any evidence of Apple working bugs out of any version of Mail.app in recent years? all i've seemed to see them doing is removing features and working bugs in. 🙁

my suspicion - only increased by all my smart folders having ceased to function a couple of days ago - is that they're slowly and deliberately making Mail so buggy and unreliable that we'll be glad rather than upset when they discontinue it.
 
plaintiger said:
"still"? have you seen any evidence of Apple working bugs out of any version of Mail.app in recent years? all i've seemed to see them doing is removing features and working bugs in. 🙁

my suspicion - only increased by all my smart folders having ceased to function a couple of days ago - is that they're slowly and deliberately making Mail so buggy and unreliable that we'll be glad rather than upset when they discontinue it.
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Quite the thread revival here. I have maverickseen on my work computer for the last week and it's been working fine for me. I use Yosemite on my personal mba and mail is flawless
 
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