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You could do the same work on a much cheaper laptop
The few hundreds of $ saved for a device I keep at least 4 years isn't going to justify the chance that it craps out on me or otherwise interrupts my work. That and having to use a cheap laptop for 4+ years. But I bought the 2015 model because I know the 2016 one will crap out on me anyway.
 
Good price for the 2.9.

However 256GB is virtually nothing as far as storage goes unless you are doing lots of work via the Cloud or external HDD.

I got the 2016 2.9/2TB/Radeon Pro 460 in July and it is a great machine.
 
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I still wonder how extensive people are using the Touch Bar anyway. Maybe that‘s why those ones were still on stock. Pro users chose the maxed out version, they had no chance to avoid it.
 
"disreputable"
Every A/V pro I know buys from them. I've also bought plenty from them, no problems.
Again, going from personal experiences years ago, they were a problem. The professional photographers I knew at the time all lamented having to buy from them or any of the other big NYC camera shops. As I said before, maybe things have changed over the years.
 
Yep and you could drive from A to B in a much cheaper car. You could also mix an album on an iMac G3 if you wanted to. It'd take you a lot longer but you could do it.
I would agree if 2016/2017 MBP were not so bad comparing to previous ones
 
this is compelling but i abhor the thought of buying a year old machine, even at that price

plus, wake me up when theres a 32 gig option considering what a loaded 15" costs and the fact weve been stuck at 16 gigs for almost 6 years now. spare me the 'nobody needs 32 gigs' spiel, thats been proven to be garbage year in year out; if we listened to those people wed all be on 2 gigs of RAM right now and not able to do a damn thing on our computers
Unless you’re buying new every year, even a newly introduced model will be a year old at some point, probably after about 12 months. But if you’ve got the extra cash, sure, why buy last year’s model?

And plenty of people could use 32GB. If Intel stays on their current timeline to deliver Ice Lake, which will support LPDDR memory at 32GB, we’ll finally get it—in 2019. It would be more constructive to complain to Intel though; maybe you’d be able to get them to pull the schedule in.
 
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I feel like people who complain about keyboards just aren't very good typists. I get used to those new keyboards in about 2 minutes of use, they feel and work just fine. Why do I care if they don't depress very far?

I'm more concerned with the horrible reliability already showing up with the latest KB designs..
 
[For my use case, to protect against early obsolescence with a year-old laptop, I would not buy a rMBP with less than 1TB SSD, 4GB dGPU, and 16GB memory -- but that is just me.]

Having been forced to get a rMBP13 with 8gb ram and 128gb SSD... listen to this guy. 8gb + 128gb = borderline unusable computer. The GPU isn't important, but man that SSD/RAM combo fills up immediately upon attempting any kind of real work on that thing.

256gb SSD is the absolute minimum required, that 128 shouldn't even exist.
 
Exactly JJ: 1TB SSD (upgrade++); 4GB dGPU (upgrade) and 16GB (now standard -- finally!)

Or punt.
Not everyone requires the higher spec’ed machines, and if they don’t why would they want to pay extra for what they don’t need?

Apple always has options from lowest spec’ed to highest. That the low end doesn’t satisfy your use case is not relevant.
 
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Spending 2k even with the discount it still kind of pointless seeing how you're stuck with a measly 256gb SSD which you CANNOT upgrade.

You can upgrade the drive, it's just super expensive. OWC has all the versions, easy enough upgrade, just ridiculously expensive.
 
I feel like people who complain about keyboards just aren't very good typists. I get used to those new keyboards in about 2 minutes of use, they feel and work just fine. Why do I care if they don't depress very far?

Depends what you are used to. Once you used to dedicated keyboards with Cherry MX switches it is tough to go back to low travel keyboards.
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You can upgrade the drive, it's just super expensive. OWC has all the versions, easy enough upgrade, just ridiculously expensive.

No upgrades for the 15" or TB 13" 2016 and 2017 models. The drives are soldered on the board, just like the memory. Upgrade path is remove credit card from wallet, ...
 
A lot of those folks can make do with an iPad.
I need a Mac because I'm a content creator and as such, 1/4TB is not enough.
People who need MacBook Pros can’t make do with an iPad lol. But plenty of “content creators” use external drives or RAID arrays, since even 2TB of internal disk would be woefully insufficient for the content they create.
 
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Unless you’re buying new every year, even a newly introduced model will be a year old at some point, probably after about 12 months. But if you’ve got the extra cash, sure, why buy last year’s model?

And plenty of people could use 32GB. If Intel stays on their current timeline to deliver Ice Lake, which will support LPDDR memory at 32GB, we’ll finally get it—in 2019. It would be more constructive to complain to Intel though; maybe you’d be able to get them to pull the schedule in.

I'm still on a mid-2010 machine, with no realistic replacement timeframe in sight. So I'm sort of on the opposite end of the spectrum - as someone that keeps the machine for an insanely long time, I want the absolute newest, most loaded $3k version so that I get maximum use and value out of my money. I don't even want to buy a machine like 4 months after it's released - at Apple prices I want it hot off the assembly line right when its released.
 
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