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Sucks they only ran this on the silver version. I jumped on the same model in space grey when it was $1799 and I would have been super happy to get $200 back from price protection.
 
Explain to me the benefits of having more than 256 gb of internal storage?

In what use cases would 256 gb be insufficient? I ask b/c I just bought a base model and may want to swap if I can be convinced

Also, someone above described themselves as a 'content creator'... what is that, exactly? what kind of 'content' do they 'create'
 
I'm still on a mid-2010 machine, with no realistic replacement timeframe in sight. So I'm sort of on the opposite end of the spectrum - as someone that keeps the machine for an insanely long time, I want the absolute newest, most loaded $3k version so that I get maximum use and value out of my money. I don't even want to buy a machine like 4 months after it's released - at Apple prices I want it hot off the assembly line right when its released.
For your “buy and hold” strategy, buying the latest makes sense.

Sounds like you could easily wait until this time next year, when the 6-cores should be released (and will probably be within your $3k budget).
 
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Explain to me the benefits of having more than 256 gb of internal storage?

In what use cases would 256 gb be insufficient? I ask b/c I just bought a base model and may want to swap if I can be convinced

Also, someone above described themselves as a 'content creator'... what is that, exactly? what kind of 'content' do they 'create'

I think if you don't have a reason that you know of yourself, you're probably in the group that's fine.

For me personally?
My iTunes library is more than 150GB on its own and add in my locally stored Photos & Apps and I immediately need the 512GB version straight away, to say nothing of swap space when working on a video project on the go.

Basically I personally always want a 1TB model+ at this point.
It just depends what you do/don't do with your laptop. I really value having all my files locally stored on the SSD so it can be easily backed up and I know I always have what I want/need with me, no questions asked.

Once you experience storage anxiety and the huge PITA of dealing with not enough, you never forget it moving forward, that's for sure.
 
I wonder if they are still charging a restocking fee if you open the box.
Since returns can’t be sold as new, it’s certainly possible. That’s definitely something you’d want to look into, especially if you’re unsure you’d want to keep the machine. Apple stores are the best place to buy models you’re interested in test driving.
 
I personally think this is a pretty good deal! I use a 13", otherwise I'd get one. There is way too much complaining in these forums sometimes. If you don't like something, you'd don't need to go on harping about it. Also B&H is a pretty good company. I know lots of professionals who buy from there all the time (Just an FYI I am not associated with B&H).
 
For many it's not "complaining", but rather describing serious concerns about the current (especially 2016) laptops in the context of having owned most if not all generations of the MBP.

I can appreciate the concerns. But, how many write, it comes across as complaints about pricing. But, concerns are valid.
 
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For many it's not "complaining", but rather describing serious concerns about the current (especially 2016) laptops in the context of having owned most if not all generations of the MBP.
For many, it actually is just about complaining. Anti-Apple (and Tim Cook hate) posters with no experience with the 2016/2017 will latch onto any issues—real or imagined, small or large—and beat that drum incessantly, merely to support their agenda.

That’s not to say that there aren’t real issues to complain about, or that some Mac users aren’t sincerely trying to voice their opinion as to what they think would make the MacBook Pro better.

It’s more that uninformed opinion without actual experience (by those who aren’t even in the target market) doesn’t tend to make for particularly relevant commentary, let alone constructive criticism.
 
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Not everyone requires the higher spec’ed machines, and if they don’t why would they want to pay extra for what they don’t need?

I'm just saying from experience that running 8gb/128gb just isn't feasible for a vast chunk of computer work. 30gb of free drive space with 8gb ram just doesn't get it done... it very shortly starts throwing up the "startup disk is full" alerts and that's it.

And from a marketing perspective, Apple mostly provides that low-end machine to encourage you to buy the next model up.
 
Trying to get rid of an MBP that Apple should have thought about a lot more but was in a rush to try to beat the new laptop PC's that are starting erode their slim market share. The Genius of Apple is disappearing since Jobs died and they are coasting on their shirttails.
 
Trying to get rid of an MBP that Apple should have thought about a lot more but was in a rush to try to beat the new laptop PC's that are starting erode their slim market share. The Genius of Apple is disappearing since Jobs died and they are coasting on their shirttails.
Apple releases new MacBook Pros every year. Nothing was rushed trying to beat some Windows laptop to market. Macs run MacOS, so Windows machines aren’t even part of the same target market.
 
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Explain to me the benefits of having more than 256 gb of internal storage?

In what use cases would 256 gb be insufficient? I ask b/c I just bought a base model and may want to swap if I can be convinced

Also, someone above described themselves as a 'content creator'... what is that, exactly? what kind of 'content' do they 'create'

Are you trying to be funny?
"The benefits of having more than 256Gb"? Well, start by trying to understand that people might have more than that amount of stuff? Duh!

"What use cases"? (God, I hate that expression). Well, you ever heard of video editing, you know, where you have lots of files with moving images that need to be rearranged and compiled into one coherent stream of moving images? You know, like that you can watch on NetFlix.
Or, you know people who uses real cameras not glued on to a phone? Those cameras produce files of around 20MB each and a common photo session would easily give you a couple of hundreds of those files.
Or, perhaps people who actually makes the stuff you listen to on Apple Music, how about those?
Or, like me, in the sysadm line of work where you actually need a few virtual machines to do your work, beside space to package software.

Not everyone uses their computer for FaceBook you know. And for most of the above, iCloud does not cut it.

"Content creator"? Well, try reading the above.
 
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I'm just saying from experience that running 8gb/128gb just isn't feasible for a vast chunk of computer work. 30gb of free drive space with 8gb ram just doesn't get it done... it very shortly starts throwing up the "startup disk is full" alerts and that's it.

And from a marketing perspective, Apple mostly provides that low-end machine to encourage you to buy the next model up.
To be clear, I’m not speaking to your use case at all. Your requirements are yours, and that’s fine. By all means, don’t buy the base config if it doesn’t meet your requirements.

But I’m telling you from experience that a lot of users only need the base configuration. Many organizations buy nothing but the base config, whether iMac, iPhone or MacBook Pro.

And those lower spec’d machines aren’t just for push pricing in a price segmentation/ differentiation strategy. Apple’s ASP for Macintosh is $1330; you tell me what they’re mostly selling.
 
You can upgrade the drive, it's just super expensive. OWC has all the versions, easy enough upgrade, just ridiculously expensive.
No they do not.

The only upgradeable MBPs are up to mid-2015. No more.

And, to suggest OWC for the critical SSD upgrade, is just Martian (crazy -- out of this world).

Dude, read the complain logs from folks burned by OWC's SSD blades after 6 to 8 months of use.

If you want to upgrade the SSD, the ONLY reliable upgrades are from Transcend (us.transcend-info.com). Their new JetDrive 820s address the upgrades applicable to the mid-2015 MBPs.

I know, because I use their 1TB SSD blade. And can speak from experience.
 
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Very very tempting to replace my late 2013, but I'm going to hold out because I really think at some point in the next couple years they are going to start sticking A-series APUs in the MacBook (probably in addition to the intel chips - like the iMac Pro), and these are going to feel out of date.
 
First, B&H is a rock solid retailer. No gray market stuff. I know someone who worked for them and they are fine.

On the deals - I get the concerns with the 2016. I have the 2017 and the keyboard stutters on g all the time. It is the dumbest keyboard I’ve used and I long for the old model.
 
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I purchased the latest base 15 inch MacBook Pro (Space Gray) at Best Buy for $2299. Figure it was nice it was $100. I looked online and saw it dropped back down to $2149. I called Best Buy and got a price match. It seems like that today, the price is the same. Apple seems to be only giving Gift Cards. So it looks like I go the best price for the machine.

Always check to see if prices drop within the return period of any electronic item you buy. They will always match or else you would return it and buy at a cheaper price.
 
Very very tempting to replace my late 2013, but I'm going to hold out because I really think at some point in the next couple years they are going to start sticking A-series APUs in the MacBook (probably in addition to the intel chips - like the iMac Pro), and these are going to feel out of date.
It would seem that FaceID will inevitably replace TouchID on MBP. That, 6-core processors and 32GB for those who need it would seem to make a great case for delaying your purchase—if you can wait until mid- or late-2019.
 
All of this just brings to light how outrageously overpriced the MacBook Pros are.

Even with $800 off, I still can’t justify the cost.

They're selling this at an enormous loss.
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Yes, but look at who you’re buying from. One of the most disreputable sellers in the business. I’ll pass. I rather save up and buy directly from Apple, even with the outrageous premium they charge.

I'm sorry but you're confusing Adorama with someone else. Adorama is very reputable.
 
Are you trying to be funny?
"The benefits of having more than 256Gb"? Well, start by trying to understand that people might have more than that amount of stuff? Duh!
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Not everyone uses their computer for FaceBook you know. And for most of the above, iCloud does not cut it.

"Content creator"? Well, try reading the above.

Bollman, no need to go to video, though.

The following applies with my "use case" (sorry):

1. Longevity Insurance: My anticipated lifecycle of my MBP is four/five years. Given that the SSD has proprietary interfaces (or SSD is soldered onto the board), you are buying "longevity insurance". if however you replace the MBP every two years, either with someone else's nickel, or yours, then go ahead, purchase the lowest common denominator.

2. Concurrent Windows VM: Such as Parallels Desktop for Mac running concurrently with High Sierra, rendering a duo-persona machine. Now you have two OSes competing for scarce memory and swapping store. [Why run a VM? Simply because critical applications in commerce and industry demand a Windows infrastructure. So you get the best of both, running concurrently.]

My own opinion: When you spend two kilos or more, one would hope to benefit with long use (four to five years, for me, when support from Apple vanishes).

[it is funny that phones today are provided with up to 1/2TB of memory (for paging and swapping, given their limited memory) whereas MBPs under HS have 100's of daemons and processes either loaded or running, and it is seen as "acceptable" to configure the machines with 1/4TB. i suggest folks to run High Sierra's "Activity Monitor" on their MBPs, and observe the Process, Disk and Memory tabs -- I am certain that it will open their eyes to the memory and disk pressures in place.]
 
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