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BlackBerry CEO Says Despite a 'Fantastic Job' With iOS Design, Apple Now Lacks Innovation
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My wife and I have been saying forever how much we need S beam and how terrible our lives have been without it.
please stop talking. go read what the definition of Innovation is. I've posted it above.
Evolution and Innovation is not mutually exclusive terminology. They can exist in the same time.
The word you're looking for is Revolution. Revolution and Evolution are often linked together.
The act of Innovation is nothing more than the introduction of something new, or something different.
Changing an existing item / technique / technology and releasing it first, is innovation. Even if it's 95% the same, that 5% could make that "innovative".
That is why this damn buzzword is driving me absolutely bonkers. nobody seems to know what it means. And nobody seems to want to apply it correctly.
Individual components of a phone can be innovative, even if the overall device isn't. a whole device can be innovative, even if it's individual components are.
the test everyone in their mind need to ask themselves when applying this term to any conversation should be, "have we ever seen this done, this way before". if the answer is "no". than it is safe to apply "Innovative".
In the "torn jeans" anecdote. Doing it now would not be innovative. They've been doing that since the 80s!
Weirdly enough, my last post pertains to you just as much as the other guy. The iPhone wasn't an entirely new concept. Much like any smartphone, it's basically a supercharged PDA. They weren't in there inventing prototype after prototype of a brand new idea. Instead, they were trying to build what they thought was the best, most elegant concept of a smartphone.
Which goes back to your idea of the "fabric itself". If the invention of the fabric is more important than the jeans made out of them, then the iPhone isn't as important as the touchscreens, the wifi and cellular radios, the processor, and the ram inside of them. None of which were invented by Apple. It's just a product that uses those things.
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Innovation is the new relevant. It's one of those words people throw around to look like they know what they're talking about.
It's so egalitarian.
...iOS doesn't feel stale from where I'm sitting tbh. There are a few minor things I'd like:
- Customisable home screen (I use it for corp email so would like to see more without unlocking it every 5 mins)
- More gesture options
- Proper shortcuts to Wifi/Airplane mode/brightness/bluetooth
- Background app updates
..not all that much really.
I have an Android phone and a Windows 7 phone .. neither of their UIs seem logical or polished to me although I do like the customisations options although I often find myself reverting back to standard bar a couple of tweaks.
- Customisable home screen (I use it for corp email so would like to see more without unlocking it every 5 mins)
- More gesture options
- Proper shortcuts to Wifi/Airplane mode/brightness/bluetooth
- Background app updates
..not all that much really.
I have an Android phone and a Windows 7 phone .. neither of their UIs seem logical or polished to me although I do like the customisations options although I often find myself reverting back to standard bar a couple of tweaks.
I really hope they don't mess with it too much.
New for the sake of new is annoying.
As the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
New for the sake of new is annoying.
As the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
If they switch to the same display as everyone else because the display everyone else is using brings value to Apple's customers, then great. If they switch simply because they are being slammed by the ppi argument, then Apple has lost their way.
To the overwhelming majority of people, ppi means absolutely nothing. Just like 64gigs means absolutely nothing. Whereas "can hold 50 high definition movies" or "can hold 1000 hours of music" is something meaningful.
The ppi metric is actually at a whole other level of useless. At least when you compare 64gigs vs 128gigs, there is a linear relationship of benefit between the two. One holds twice as much as the other. Whereas with ppi, what is the difference between 330ppi vs 400ppi? How do will someone experience the difference?
Equally meaningless to the vast majority is 2 cores vs 4 cores. If Apple switches because there is value to the end customer, great. If they switch because a bunch of Fandroids have nothing to do all day they except compensate for physical inadequacies by comparing cell phone specs, well...
I wouldn't say iOS is stale, and it doesn't need a UI change. As far as all that goes, it does what it's supposed to do quite well.
The biggest problem iOS currently faces is that it isn't improving as quickly as the other platforms. 2-3 years ago, it was the most complete mobile OS out there. It was smooth, stable, and easy to use. Now we have Android, WP8, and BB10 out there that are arguably as smooth, stable, and easy to use, yet are starting to offer more features and flexibility options than iOS. We've got to the point where the competition is finally starting to match Apple. If they don't take the competition seriously enough, then iOS will soon fall behind, and they'll lose their current advantage.
I maybe late in this thread to reply to the first page ... but here goes.
dude you're a BAFOON!
1. NOC!! Data compression outside of a providers GGSN!
2. Real Time push email innovation - NO OTHER manufacturer or provider got this done back in 1996! Right now with data consumption for smartphones iOS and Android to a large corporation this is even MORE relevant now than anything else! (I've seen iOS IP5 or iPad 3 consume 500MB+ of roaming data - Canadian provider to France & Italy 1wk each and cause $6000!)
3. physical keyboard rivals even those on desktop workstations.
4. Machine to Machine business:
Right now you have no idea of RIM's true end-game.
5. QNX innovated for real-time OS;
cars, USA Military drones, etc.
Do some solid research as to not put a foot in your mouth.
really? try using a BB10 for 5 days and then come back and say its a fail or no innovation is there.
Reading all these comments have made me realized that quite a few people really think that:
1. Apple was the first one to make a smartphone
2. Have no clue of history regarding the smartphone.
Quite comical actually. Can't tell if these people really do believe the above or just trolling those who can look at things objectively...
1. Apple was the first one to make a smartphone
2. Have no clue of history regarding the smartphone.
Quite comical actually. Can't tell if these people really do believe the above or just trolling those who can look at things objectively...
....and market share is what? Ya know, I was wondering why all those Digital Drone Commands were going through Canada. RIM is ripe for a takeover.
If Apple comes out with an iPhone 5S this summer as their counter to the latest Android offerings...be prepared for Apple stock to tank to new record lows. What they need to do is to shock the industry by reinventing the iPhone and launch something dramatic like the tapered iPhone that was rumored from a year or so ago.
I have the 5 - but have come to the point where I will not upgrade to a 5S just for the sake of keeping current. Apple needs to go big or go home.
I genuinely fear for the iPhone sales numbers if Apple thinks they can get away with another "S" update this summer.
I have the 5 - but have come to the point where I will not upgrade to a 5S just for the sake of keeping current. Apple needs to go big or go home.
I genuinely fear for the iPhone sales numbers if Apple thinks they can get away with another "S" update this summer.
I'm the first to admit that iOS could do with some revamping, it's no doubt happening as we speak anyway.
It took Blackberry long enough to 'innovate' and, Ahem...
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Innovation is NOT in the design of the hardware my friend.
But:
screen technology has heat sensors that allow the cpu+OS to learn where you type each character for improved accuracy over time. Not all of us have finely detailed finger prints (some of us have them quite worn down from construction, moving, etc).
Virtual keyboard is the best in the industry ... no longer switching a language to type. you do this 1 time in settings for 3 languages and then type and go! completing sentences, phrases has proper context and structure with each language used in conjunction between them all. No other OS does this ... not even OSX, Linux, or Windows.
^ that ALONE my friend is innovation!!
This ^
I am sure that the latest Samsung phones are great. But a couple of things I saw were for me, checklist items. You know, rolling out new features for the sake of saying, we rolled out new features.
I dunno, I could be wrong. Maybe there is something to the phone recognizing touchless gestures. Maybe it can recognize when I pick my nose. Or recognize when I am looking at a woman who is not my wife.
Personally, I would prefer to keep iOS clean and simple. Features add complexity which makes things harder to use and makes the OS itself less robust. If there is clear and appreciable benefit, then add the feature. If the only benefit is to check an item on a list, then I say pass on the feature.
the sad fact is there are a lot of people in the world who truly believe that. They believe that Apple is the inventor, pioneer and the sole reason why we have computers and smartphones of today.
I will never discount Apple's involvement in everything tech we have today. they are a huge, and one of the major players in the industry since the 80's.
But they do not exist in a vacume. They do not exist with closed walls where everyone inside those walls have never seen the world around them. Apple is very much like every other player, in which they see technology, what it can do today, and how they can change, innovate, make things better, and release things in both evolutionary steps and Revolutionary steps.
Computers existed Before Apple. MP3 players existed before Apple, Phones and smart phones existed before apple. GUI's existed before Apple.
Apple has always done a fantastic job at making these concepts their own, and making people want them, and bringing about changes to make people want them.
But it's not like Mr Jobs woke up one morning in 2007 and said "wow, nobody has ever had this computer in their hands, that they could install software on, make phone calls, play games, and listen to music... it's never ever been seen or heard of.. SO I"LL DO IT!!!". no, he saw trends in the market, saw other peoples try and fail, and made a device that people wanted.
The same can be said for many other visionaries in the field. And without every single visionary who made either huge changes that steered entire markets, to the little guys who could tweak technology enough to make it do things they wanted to, we wouldn't have these fantastic devices we have today. Every single tech we have is all built off of eachother, and you could say it all has one foundation, the integrated circuit.
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It's not a fail, but it's not enough.
I agree. I used a Z10 for about 30 days. the UI was smooth and flawless. the baked in features into the OS were very well thought out and the phone and device worked like a charm.
What it did was bring BB up to about the same level of features and capability as the iPhone. Many had features completely analogues of eachother, and each had a few shining points over eachother.
BBRYs' problem right now isn't BB10 itself right now. It's a couple oddball choices in the Z10's hardware (like it's battery, and poor camera) and unfortunately it's App ecosystem, which sadly, somehow, is worse than OS7's at this point.
Just More Of The same....
Amazing how all the other cell phone makers copied the iPhone design, even before the 7 year patent time was up, and they all get away with it. "Creative innovation" on their part!! ha ha
Amazing how all the other cell phone makers copied the iPhone design, even before the 7 year patent time was up, and they all get away with it. "Creative innovation" on their part!! ha ha
Innovation is a combination of hardware and software. To that end...Apple is lagging. The Retina display three years ago was revolutionary - but now lacks the other industry players. The physical button introduced in 2007 takes up too much real estate on the front of the phone. The UI looks essentially the same as it did in 2007. Multi-tasking in iOS is not nearly as robust as the competition and needs to be improved. I find this to be a big weakness and doesn't take advantage of the LTE speeds we now enjoy.
There is so much room for improvement - on both the hardware and software fronts that if all Apple does is make incremental updates to the 5 and calls it the 5S...then Apple is is big trouble. And for all of the folks stating that BB has no room to talk about innovation...I would argue that they do. They know what happens when you don't innovate. They have personally experienced it.
Apple is dangerously close to falling into the same trap that RIM did with the Storm. RIM held onto an old original OS so long that when they introduced the storm it failed in the market place. Apple is a long way from failing...but if the 5S disappoints - there will be many users that will defect to other platforms before the theoretical iPhone 6 would be launched in the summer of 2014.
Apple can not get by with small updates every other year as they did in the past. it is time to launch an all new phone this summer. If they want my money...it will have to be something more than just an iPhone 5S in the same shell as the 5.
There is so much room for improvement - on both the hardware and software fronts that if all Apple does is make incremental updates to the 5 and calls it the 5S...then Apple is is big trouble. And for all of the folks stating that BB has no room to talk about innovation...I would argue that they do. They know what happens when you don't innovate. They have personally experienced it.
Apple is dangerously close to falling into the same trap that RIM did with the Storm. RIM held onto an old original OS so long that when they introduced the storm it failed in the market place. Apple is a long way from failing...but if the 5S disappoints - there will be many users that will defect to other platforms before the theoretical iPhone 6 would be launched in the summer of 2014.
Apple can not get by with small updates every other year as they did in the past. it is time to launch an all new phone this summer. If they want my money...it will have to be something more than just an iPhone 5S in the same shell as the 5.