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BlackBerry Considering Releasing Android Smartphone

Wiesenlooser said:
The irony is strong in this thread. "Oh blackberry is dead etc, they should just give up ". They are still in business and by no means
Worse of than apple once used to be. I'm not saying that they are making a comeback - but hey at least they Trying.
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The key to Apple's comeback was entering and dominating new categories.

iPod redefined what an MP3 player was. iPhone redefined what a smartphone was.

iPad redefined what a tablet was or at least took the tablet market from niche to mainstream.

iTunes Store became the center of digital music downloads.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
The irony is strong in this thread. "Oh blackberry is dead etc, they should just give up ". They are still in business and by no means
Worse of than apple once used to be. I'm not saying that they are making a comeback - but hey at least they Trying.
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I was waiting for this. The answer is simple: Apple, with the #2 platform, was necessary for a healthy computer technology industry. Blackberry, in the mobile device industry, is not.
Apple innovated their way out of their problems, creating the iMac, simplifying their line, ditching legacy stuff like ADB, SCSI and floppy disks and, eventually, Mac OS 7/8/9, building the online store and so on. Blackberry's answer: whack Android on their device like any of a hundred or so OEMs.
 
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batchtaster said:
I was waiting for this. The answer is simple: Apple, with the #2 platform, was necessary for a healthy computer technology industry. Blackberry, in the mobile device industry, is not.
Apple innovated their way out of their problems, creating the iMac, simplifying their line, ditching legacy stuff like ADB, SCSI and floppy disks and, eventually, Mac OS 7/8/9, building the online store and so on. Blackberry's answer: whack Android on their device like any of a hundred or so OEMs.
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You are wrong. Mac OS was never truly a #2 Platform or competitor to Windows in terms of install base. Apple's success didn't have anything to do with their Mac Lineup, but started with iPod and then iPhone which are platform agnostic.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
You are wrong. Mac OS was never truly a #2 Platform or competitor to Windows in terms of install base. Apple's success didn't have anything to do with their Mac Lineup, but started with iPod and then iPhone which are platform agnostic.
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A little bit off-topic I admit but...
Telling "Apple's success didn't have anything to do with their Mac Lineup" is - at least partly - untrue.
Mac was, is, and will always be the facilitator for iPhone and iPad. Without Mac, no iOS.
 
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I wonder who still puts money into this company, RIMs revenue alone surely cannot cover all the capacities they still have to operate.
 
Bad idea. If they would have done this 5 years ago than maybe I could see them being competitive but outside of high end government officials for security purposes and some businessmen who are stuck in the past blackberry is absolutely dead...i'd rather succeed or die by my identity than leave the proprietary ways to go android...There's nothing RIM can do other than innovate in other areas. The mobile market is saturated now. Even Microsoft is having a ton of trouble getting market share with Windows Phone so how is a company with no where near the power and influence that microsoft does gain share when they can't? Move on RIM...you're better than that.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
The irony is strong in this thread. "Oh blackberry is dead etc, they should just give up ". They are still in business and by no means
Worse of than apple once used to be. I'm not saying that they are making a comeback - but hey at least they Trying.
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Are they??
Are they trying??
Lol... can you give me a "for example"?
2007 was eight years ago. EIGHT years ago!!!
Soooooo.... I'm pretty sure all they've "tried" in that time is one very large phone (Passport), and now there's a rumor that they might make an Android phone with a keyboard. Not very innovative for eight years of time to come up with something.
Personally, I think their final hope is pinned on becoming a software services company. Hopefully (for them), this phone management platform of theirs is successful.
It is worth noting that IBM managed to successfully pull this off.
 
keysofanxiety said:
Too little, too late. What advantages they had from a closed ecosystem and hardware/software has been ruined by years of lethargy and arrogance. They had some of the most loyal customers who they continously let down. Good riddance to companies like that, I say.
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Sounds like a certain other company we all know well.
 
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I'm not sure I really get all the hate...has anyone with all these negative comments actually used a modern BlackBerry phone? I use a BlackBerry Passport to run my business and I would not trade it for any Android or iOS device (and I've had both).

My phone has a battery that consistently lasts 1-2 days, a physical keyboard that also accepts gestures, the Hub with all emails, calls, texts, tweets, etc. in one place, a 1440x1440 screen, very responsive UI, and it also runs Android apps.

It's hands down the best phone for communicating. Now I totally expect like 1000 replies saying this is stupid.
 
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tbsoftware said:
I'm not sure I really get all the hate...has anyone with all these negative comments actually used a modern BlackBerry phone?
I use a BlackBerry Passport...
My phone has a battery that consistently lasts 1-2 days, a physical keyboard that also accepts gestures,
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Any device as big as the Passport should indeed have at least 1-2 days battery life.

About the hate. I did use a modern Blackberry phone. Didn't like it at all.

The 9000 and 9900 will always be the last real mailphones. Miss you guys!
 
Spock said:
I think Blackberry should partner with Microsoft. A Blackberry classic with Windows Phone, Outlook and Office would probably help both companies.
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It would certainly help both companies move further in the direction they're both already going.
 
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tbsoftware said:
I'm not sure I really get all the hate...has anyone with all these negative comments actually used a modern BlackBerry phone? I use a BlackBerry Passport to run my business and I would not trade it for any Android or iOS device (and I've had both).

My phone has a battery that consistently lasts 1-2 days, a physical keyboard that also accepts gestures, the Hub with all emails, calls, texts, tweets, etc. in one place, a 1440x1440 screen, very responsive UI, and it also runs Android apps.

It's hands down the best phone for communicating. Now I totally expect like 1000 replies saying this is stupid.
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We're all glad you've found something that works for you. That's not at all stupid.

You are, however, a member of a vanishingly small minority. That's a fact. And it's the case because BB mismanaged their position of industry leadership and let an upstart take their lunch money away from them.
 
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Tycho24 said:
Are they??
Are they trying??
Lol... can you give me a "for example"?
2007 was eight years ago. EIGHT years ago!!!
Soooooo.... I'm pretty sure all they've "tried" in that time is one very large phone (Passport), and now there's a rumor that they might make an Android phone with a keyboard. Not very innovative for eight years of time to come up with something.
Personally, I think their final hope is pinned on becoming a software services company. Hopefully (for them), this phone management platform of theirs is successful.
It is worth noting that IBM managed to successfully pull this off.
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Bought QNX, developped automotive branch, created a whole new mobile OS based on QNX (BB10), released the Z10, Q10, Z5, Z3, Q5, Z30, Passport, Classic, and started to open to other platforms.
What did you do in 8 years ?
 
Stop making physical keyboards. Its a waste of space!

BlackBerry should dissolve their company or turn it into an ice cream parlor.
 
Alenore said:
Bought QNX, developped automotive branch, created a whole new mobile OS based on QNX (BB10), released the Z10, Q10, Z5, Z3, Q5, Z30, Passport, Classic, and started to open to other platforms.
What did you do in 8 years ?
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Lol... the last eight years?
Well, not on as high of a $ scale... bought I bought things too!!
It took me the EXACT amount of skill for me to go purchase things as it did them though, so please feel free to praise my "innovation" and "inventiveness" on buying things.
Luckily, I didn't spend much of my fortune buying an OS that can't compete though.... so there is that.
Lol, at least Google can't be faulted for purchasing Android, as they hadn't already built something else.
Can you imagine if Apple or Google, after working years to hone their OS', just scrapped them & bought a new one from a third party if they made a misstep??!! Dear God. What an admission of failure.
Oh... and, since you're so interested in my personal life: I've also in the last 8 years built and created many things from scratch, of my own designs... from building a shed, to painting acrylics on canvas, and composing & performing original poetry. So... your little sassy "dig" backfired. I feel very comfortable saying that I believe I personally was more productive, innovative, and creative over that period of time that BB was as a company.
 
Tycho24 said:
Lol... the last eight years?
Well, not on as high of a $ scale... bought I bought things too!!
It took me the EXACT amount of skill for me to go purchase things as it did them though, so please feel free to praise my "innovation" and "inventiveness" on buying things.
Luckily, I didn't spend much of my fortune buying an OS that can't compete though.... so there is that.
Lol, at least Google can't be faulted for purchasing Android, as they hadn't already built something else.
Can you imagine if Apple or Google, after working years to hone their OS', just scrapped them & bought a new one from a third party if they made a misstep??!! Dear God. What an admission of failure.
Oh... and, since you're so interested in my personal life: I've also in the last 8 years built and created many things from scratch, of my own designs... from building a shed, to painting acrylics on canvas, and composing & performing original poetry. So... your little sassy "dig" backfired. I feel very comfortable saying that I believe I personally was more productive, innovative, and creative over that period of time that BB was as a company.
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B10 was made by Blackberry, though based on QNX.
It's the same as saying Apple didn't made iOS/OSX because they based it on open source.

If you're to quote things like that, some blackberyr employees also released music videos, had designers, etc. You didn't do much than them.
 
Tycho24 said:
Lol... the last eight years?
Well, not on as high of a $ scale... bought I bought things too!!
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This might be a shocker, but a lot of technology, functionality and features we associate with Apple, Google, Microsoft and other big ones, are not invented inside those companies' walls. They're bought.

Added values / improvements might be just plain rebatching, implemented in existing technology or anything in between. While these acquisitions are not publicly announced in general, they're mostly no secret.

Apple's iTunes, iWork, Final Cut Pro, iCloud, Siri, Maps, Touch ID, iBooks, Filemaker and even OSX are results of technology bought by Apple cash rather than Apple creative brainstorming. Some are (heavily/partly) based on bought tecnologies, some swallowed the technology in existing products.

Google's gMail, adSense, Picasa, Google Maps, Google Analytics, Android, YouTube, Google Docs, Google Inbox, all bought.

Microsoft most famous ones are Hotmail, Skype, Visio, Bing, Microsoft Dynamics.

Does this makes them bad? Absolutely not. Some of these companies wouldn't have survived, others saw their technology projected to millions of users they otherwise would never have reached. Some company stakeholders got seriously rich overnight, others got their dream job. In the end everybody wins.
 
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