BlackBerry PlayBook to Be Priced 'Under' $500

[zacman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s72rGDUn2uo

Seems Apple still needs to improve iOS alot to beat QNX with web browsing. Especially the HTML5 support in Safari on iOS needs lots of work obviously (2:40). Even this alpha version of QNX on the Playbook runs circles around the iPad. And QNX even had multitasking turned on...

 

[rjohnstone]

Depending on what you do that could be insane. I would hate to be lock down that badly since sometime I would want to take a copy of a file home so I could look over it or do a little work on it from home

It is a bit insane unless you're a programmer like myself.
We get admin level access to our laptops. Still have some policy based restrictions on the hardware and network layers, but I can install software and make system config changes for testing purposes.
I can install iTunes if I load it from a CD, but once I connect to the network, domain policy will remove it.

We also take our laptops home to work on projects if needed. No need for thumb drives. Hell, I work from home most of the time.
Just fire up the VPN connection and away I go.
Our laptops have PGP whole disk encryption. So if someone steals it, the drive becomes a paper weight.

 

[Nanasaki]

lol @ you.

The Playbook, like the storm series of phones will suffer from excessive memory leaks, aspecting delays, limited app store, and will get killed by Apple. Its not because the world is filled with fanboys, Apple outsells everyone because they make a legitimately better product.

Please go back to the MaxPC forum if you have nothing constructive to say.

WTF are you talking about? My storm runs just fun... the battery life is longer than iPod Touch. Tons of apps on Blackberry AppWorld. I am laughing at anybody even try to think iPod is a "legitimately better" product. Yea, you get more apps on your useless iPad, but i got more useful stuffs on my Blackberry Playbook. At least, i won't spend more money for a USB adaptor, VGA adaptor, i got front back camera, oh, and i get flash. I just love how Apple fanboy claim Apple's "legitimately BETTER" than other. Come on, there are lots of devices kills iPad. I guess, young people just love to show off their "iPad". Whenever my friends show me their iPad, i will laugh them hard.

And no, Playbook not even out yet. I will just wait for it to rip stupid iPad. LOL....

 

[Nanasaki]

are you forgetting the fact that it will have horrible battery life compared to the iPad? how are you going to use a product that dies on you?

I don't know the battery life for Playbook. But battery life for my iPod Touch 4 gen. sucks ball. First thing after i come home is plug in the iPod Touch and charge it.

 

[ggg05a]

WTF are you talking about? My storm runs just fun... the battery life is longer than iPod Touch. Tons of apps on Blackberry AppWorld. I am laughing at anybody even try to think iPod is a "legitimately better" product. Yea, you get more apps on your useless iPad, but i got more useful stuffs on my Blackberry Playbook. At least, i won't spend more money for a USB adaptor, VGA adaptor, i got front back camera, oh, and i get flash. I just love how Apple fanboy claim Apple's "legitimately BETTER" than other. Come on, there are lots of devices kills iPad. I guess, young people just love to show off their "iPad". Whenever my friends show me their iPad, i will laugh them hard.

And no, Playbook not even out yet. I will just wait for it to rip stupid iPad. LOL....

Your storm must have been touched by God. My storm, as well as most others is the biggest steaming pile of electronic-feeces to ever grace my pocket. I've had Windows CE phones from back in the day that worked better than this thing.

I have to charge my Blackberry battery twice a day, I've decided to start carrying a charger with me instead. The Storm and Storm 2 is limited to OS 5, so if you bought the Storm within the past 6 months, the developer effectively eliminated support for their brand new flagship device for Verizon. Fantastic idea.

It boils down to the fact that Blackberry, in the past few years has built shitbox phone after shitbox phone, and are in a constant state of catchup with Google and Apple. RIM is going the way of Palm. I'm not the only one that thinks this either:

**By the way, the Storm2, the phone that was expected to turn Blackberry around, launched right about where the line is separating Q309 and Q409.

The best part about it, is while Apple is *still* selling their handsets for $200 + you have the carriers giving away RIM products, and they are *still* losing market share.

Yeup, you're right. . . congratulations, the Playbook, releasing 9 months after the iPad has a front and rear facing camera, and USB support. You're, probably also right that you won't spend money on any extra dongles with your Playbook, you'll just fork out another $500 after the playbook goes to hell in 9 months or so, after all it is a RIM product. See build quality of other RIM based phones.

Oh by the way, we have flash now as well, and no, I have yet to see another device compete with the iPad when it comes to 3rd party app support, or build quality, or horizontal platform integration. But you do have a front and rear facing camera. . . .

I throughly look forward to all the people who buy Playbooks (or whatevershitbox competitor comes out) just to go against the grain, (lol stupid Apple fanbois paid $500 for something I paid $500 for, but mine is cooler because it doesn't have an Apple on it lol) In turn realizing RIM shipped them another expensive soon-to-be-paperweight without the courtesy to include a tub of Vaseline.

If you are dead set on getting your playbook, then awesome. Have fun with its lego-land build quality, I'll stick with solid chunks of aluminum, and consistent reliability. (Thank you Unix)

 

[rockinred]

Apple iPad is the gold standard and the rest are wannabe's at this point.

I will say this.... RIM is no joke in the mobile world and Apple needs to take them very serious with this device. If it was Dell or something like that, then Apple can just kind of laugh.... but RIM has a very strong presence in this realm here.

This should be interesting. I also agree...that Apple and Droid blew past RIM on the mobile technology, but RIM also started the standard on the hi-tech mobile world early on. They definitely know this business and can emerge from a war if taken too lightly. I use Blackberry for work and it is a very powerful device in it's own way. iPhone is just way cooler in so many ways though. This will be interesting in the next year or two.

 

[Nanasaki]

Your storm must have been touched by God. My storm, as well as most others is the biggest steaming pile of electronic-feeces to ever grace my pocket. I've had Windows CE phones from back in the day that worked better than this thing.

I have to charge my Blackberry battery twice a day, I've decided to start carrying a charger with me instead. The Storm and Storm 2 is limited to OS 5, so if you bought the Storm within the past 6 months, the developer effectively eliminated support for their brand new flagship device for Verizon. Fantastic idea.

It boils down to the fact that Blackberry, in the past few years has built shitbox phone after shitbox phone, and are in a constant state of catchup with Google and Apple. RIM is going the way of Palm. I'm not the only one that thinks this either:

**By the way, the Storm2, the phone that was expected to turn Blackberry around, launched right about where the line is separating Q309 and Q409.

The best part about it, is while Apple is *still* selling their handsets for $200 + you have the carriers giving away RIM products, and they are *still* losing market share.

Yeup, you're right. . . congratulations, the Playbook, releasing 9 months after the iPad has a front and rear facing camera, and USB support. You're, probably also right that you won't spend money on any extra dongles with your Playbook, you'll just fork out another $500 after the playbook goes to hell in 9 months or so, after all it is a RIM product. See build quality of other RIM based phones.

Oh by the way, we have flash now as well, and no, I have yet to see another device compete with the iPad when it comes to 3rd party app support, or build quality, or horizontal platform integration. But you do have a front and rear facing camera. . . .

I throughly look forward to all the people who buy Playbooks (or whatevershitbox competitor comes out) just to go against the grain, (lol stupid Apple fanbois paid $500 for something I paid $500 for, but mine is cooler because it doesn't have an Apple on it lol) In turn realizing RIM shipped them another expensive soon-to-be-paperweight without the courtesy to include a tub of Vaseline.

If you are dead set on getting your playbook, then awesome. Have fun with its lego-land build quality, I'll stick with solid chunks of aluminum, and consistent reliability. (Thank you Unix)

Dude... Google search means nothing to me. I can find search for " Chinese people eat dog" stuffs like that... That's shows purely nothing to me.

I have used at least 4 Blackberry phones in the past, none of those give me any types of problem. It just works (by the way, my father working at RIM, i got all the phone for free). So i trust RIM's quality. On other hand, my Macbook had 2 fix in a single year. How do you explain this. For me, my cheap $400 Toshiba laptop has batter quality than that. Take that dude, Apple is by no mean a "gold standard".

Market share means absolutely nothing for RIM. Blackberry is target towards business, not designed for consumers.

So for me, i would never get any Apple product anymore. No, i refuse Apple. So, good for Apple people pay more and get lesser stuff. That's just smart.

 

[AttilaTheHun]

No that is typical RIM. Business and enterprise need room maps so 6 months gives them time to prepare for it and budget for it. Apple is consumer focused only. Apple does not give a damage about the business world so Announced and release need to be closed together. Very different set up.



That is just extra crap and steps that you have to go threw that you should not have to. Still limits how easy you can plug it in and just make it work.

I like RIM blackberry but they are known as a big talkers and slow doing. I stop waiting for they stuff I just buy what I see, its look like Apple will come out with new ipad (with front camera USB ports) before RIMs playbook.
I will buy the 1st one to come out,also 3G will have to be there.

 

[ggg05a]

(by the way, my father working at RIM, i got all the phone for free).

It now makes sense. Continue to drink the kool-aid man. After a few more generations of garbage products odds are your dad will shoot his resume off to Cupertino.

Also, I, nor anyone else here cares what your interpretation of "quality" is, especially given your obvious and blatant bias. According to JD Power and associates, the iPhone is the best, and anything RIM based is a shitbox.

http://www.jdpower.com/Electronics/ratings/wireless-smartphone-ratings-(volume-2)/

lol @ french-Canadians.

 

[rockinred]

Dude... Google search means nothing to me. I can find search for " Chinese people eat dog" stuffs like that... That's shows purely nothing to me.

I have used at least 4 Blackberry phones in the past, none of those give me any types of problem. It just works (by the way, my father working at RIM, i got all the phone for free). So i trust RIM's quality. On other hand, my Macbook had 2 fix in a single year. How do you explain this. For me, my cheap $400 Toshiba laptop has batter quality than that. Take that dude, Apple is by no mean a "gold standard".

Market share means absolutely nothing for RIM. Blackberry is target towards business, not designed for consumers.

So for me, i would never get any Apple product anymore. No, i refuse Apple. So, good for Apple people pay more and get lesser stuff. That's just smart.

iPad is not the gold standard huh? Then who is, being that all are just concept designs and spin off versions of the current REAL iPad?

This write up you have here is about the worst defense one could make on behalf of RIM. Pretty silly if you ask me. Maybe you should ask daddy to do a defense to the quality of RIM and you stick to getting freebee phones from daddy. Hell, shoot for 5 free blackberries from dad....psst no wonder you love it...they're free!!! Lol

 

[Nanasaki]

iPad is not the gold standard huh? Then who is, being that all are just concept designs and spin off versions of the current REAL iPad?

This write up you have here is about the worst defense one could make on behalf of RIM. Pretty silly if you ask me. Maybe you should ask daddy to do a defense to the quality of RIM and you stick to getting freebee phones from daddy. Hell, shoot for 5 free blackberries from dad....psst no wonder you love it...they're free!!! Lol

Dude... iPad by no mean be gold standard. Tablet has been around from ages, and iPad just a table without keyboard to me, and it is pretty much useless to me. iPad just a other tablet with Apple multi-touch.

Ok, i like Blackberry not because i can get it for free. Blackberry just works. It has good build quality, good emailing services, physical keyboard is important to me. The new Blackberry Torch is just awesome. Great keyboard+ Touch screen, system is very quick, good browsing experience extra.

And also, i can't get Blackberry Playbook free. So, i will buy one when it available.

Reply on my PC. Proud being PC and Blackberry user.

 

[cav23j]

physical keyboard is important to me.

And also, i can't get Blackberry Playbook free. So, i will buy one when it available.

you just contradicted yourself

why are you even on a mac forum?

 

[ggg05a]

Dude... iPad by no mean be gold standard. Tablet has been around from ages, and iPad just a table without keyboard to me, and it is pretty much useless to me. iPad just a other tablet with Apple multi-touch.

Ok, i like Blackberry not because i can get it for free. Blackberry just works. It has good build quality, good emailing services, physical keyboard is important to me. The new Blackberry Torch is just awesome. Great keyboard+ Touch screen, system is very quick, good browsing experience extra.

And also, i can't get Blackberry Playbook free. So, i will buy one when it available.

Reply on my PC. Proud being PC and Blackberry user.

Come on man . . . just admit it. . . Apple makes a better product.

 

[linux2mac]

I don't care if it is free, I'll still take iPad any day. Everything else is junk compared to the iPad. Matter of fact most everything is junk compared to Apple products. Who has the best music player? Apple. Who has the best phone? Apple. Who makes the best OS? Apple. I could go on but its not necessary.

 

[linux2mac]

you just contradicted yourself

why are you even on a mac forum?

I agree. No Mac user would ever waste their time an all Windows forum. Why do we need to? But we see so many Windows lovers show up here on a Mac specific forum always trying to tell us how bad Mac products are. Sorry I don't miss viruses and dealing with driver issues and crappy looking hardware.

 

[chagla]

Your storm must have been touched by God. My storm, as well as most o....

If you are dead set on getting your playbook, then awesome. Have fun with its lego-land build quality, I'll stick with solid chunks of aluminum, and consistent reliability. (Thank you Unix)

where did you get the pie chart? it seems to contradict everyone else.

Nokia is leading worldwide. Android is leading the US.

Canalys: Android takes Q2 smartphone market share lead in US with 886 percent year-over-year growth

iPhone drops to 24% smartphone share, Android jumps to 17%

Android hits top spot in U.S. smartphone market

chart source- Gartner, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

I don't care if it is free, I'll still take iPad any day. Everything else is junk compared to the iPad. Matter of fact most everything is junk compared to Apple products. Who has the best music player? Apple. Who has the best phone? Apple. Who makes the best OS? Apple. I could go on but its not necessary.

this is for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

also thanks for stopping after two lines!

 

[linux2mac]

this is for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

Sorry that still doesn't convince me. I'll keep my iPhone 4.

also thanks for stopping after two lines!

No problem, there is too much to list. I can't wait to see the HP/Dell copy cats for the new MacBook Air next. LOL!

Bottom line is I will still take an iPad over the competition no matter how less expensive the competition is. "You get what you pay for."

 

[netdog]

Of course it won't be more than a WiFi iPad. It's got a small display. How much do you think the cameras really cost?

Oh, and by the way, iPad 2 will stay the same price but add cameras too. Big deal.

 

[ggg05a]

Without a doubt, Google is killing Apple in market share, however, you can get a good phone on ATT/Verizon/TMobile/Sprint etc. etc. which is overwhelming majority of the cell phone subscribers. Apple is only on 1 carrier, and once it releases its CDMA phone in Q1 on next year, expect to see Apple gobble up market share like it did in 08 and 09.

My premise of these later replies is RIM makes an inferior product to that of Apple, and I then supported it with charts showing market share (with RIM distributing phones to all carriers, including pay-go plans) and cited to show JDPower and Associates think RIM products are garbage as well.

 

[Nanasaki]

Without a doubt, Google is killing Apple in market share, however, you can get a good phone on ATT/Verizon/TMobile/Sprint etc. etc. which is overwhelming majority of the cell phone subscribers. Apple is only on 1 carrier, and once it releases its CDMA phone in Q1 on next year, expect to see Apple gobble up market share like it did in 08 and 09.

My premise of these later replies is RIM makes an inferior product to that of Apple, and I then supported it with charts showing market share (with RIM distributing phones to all carriers, including pay-go plans) and cited to show JDPower and Associates think RIM products are garbage as well.

Dude, you have no idea how to Playbook actually is. Dual Core processor with plenty port, true multi-tasking, cool user interface, very secure network for emailing. Have watched the demo of Blackberry Playbook, it just simply awesome. You should go watch the demo given by Mike Lazaridis.

 

[ggg05a]

Dude, you have no idea how to Playbook actually is. Dual Core processor with plenty port, true multi-tasking, cool user interface, very secure network for emailing. Have watched the demo of Blackberry Playbook, it just simply awesome. You should go watch the demo given by Mike Lazaridis.

It is unreleased, so neither do you. I'm not saying RIM won't equip it like competitive equipment, I'm just saying they will fail to make it perform like the iPad.

See Storm and Storm2 and iPhone 3G and 3Gs specs, respectively. Very similar, yet one get a best pick award from JDPower, while the other was ranked dead last.

I'd like to admit, that I am probably biased, like you just in the opposite direction. My storm, according to RIM customer support, and Verizon customer support say I got a dud, and *most* aren't nearly as poor as my phone is. Verizon won't replace my storm without using my upgrade, and RIM won't fix/replace it without me sending it to them for weeks at a time. Customer service fail.

EDIT: Its still bu11$h1t RIM pulls software support for their flagship device.

EDIT 2: lol @ profanity filter. How old are we?

 

[Nanasaki]

It is unreleased, so neither do you. I'm not saying RIM won't equip it like competitive equipment, I'm just saying they will fail to make it perform like the iPad.

See Storm and Storm2 and iPhone 3G and 3Gs specs, respectively. Very similar, yet one get a best pick award from JDPower, while the other was ranked dead last.

I'd like to admit, that I am probably biased, like you just in the opposite direction. My storm, according to RIM customer support, and Verizon customer support say I got a dud, and *most* aren't nearly as poor as my phone is. Verizon won't replace my storm without using my upgrade, and RIM won't fix/replace it without me sending it to them for weeks at a time. Customer service fail.

EDIT: Its still bu11$h1t RIM pulls software support for their flagship device.

EDIT 2: lol @ profanity filter. How old are we?

I have seen the demo on youtube. I haven't physically touched the product yet, but from the video, i could tell it would be awesome. I personally have a iPod touch, compare with partical multi-tasking on iOS, full multi-tasking OS is way to go. Personally i like the touch-click design, it prevent unintentional operation, also i can type more accurately. Strom works OK for me, but again, it just me. Since i get my Blackberry for free, i don't know cunstomer service, so i feel sorry for your troubled experience.

No, i don't think i will tell you my age. But i am third year university student, so you can guess.

 

[Nanasaki]

Sorry that still doesn't convince me. I'll keep my iPhone 4.



No problem, there is too much to list. I can't wait to see the HP/Dell copy cats for the new MacBook Air next. LOL!

Bottom line is I will still take an iPad over the competition no matter how less expensive the competition is. "You get what you pay for."

The problem is you pay same amount or more money for lesser stuff. In fact that you can buy devices that equivalent with iPad with lesser money and iPad not necessarily superior than other devices. Different devices will give you different experience, either bad or good. Why don't you try out some other devices, i am sure you will find something better. So if you can get samilar or better devices for lesser money, then "you don't get what you pay for" for iPad.

 

[twoodcc]

so it will be $499. but the iPad is still bigger and better for the same price