curious how this is gonna work and would like more details besides what the presser already says.
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Blood Oxygen Feature Finally Returning to Apple Watch in the US
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False, it is highly accurate when taken intentionally, ie you keep your arm still and the watch is properly adjusted. The automatic tracking is bad because you're moving your arm around and probably dont wear the watch tight enough.
Sir this is just a Workaround at the moment. In 2028 Masimo’s patent expires and Apple will be able to use the patent without having to pay for it and you can get the readings directly off the Apple Watch again ⌚️Apple is not paying Masimo $100 per device that would run into the billions.
I have to say with the Siri debacle, I can’t see this being its best year. I mean they have provided no evidence that they even have Siri going yet today. We just hope it comes out 18 months after it was promised with iPhones 16? So to me hardware sales with broken promises doesn’t equal best year ever.
Companies like Apple, Google, and Samsung use their patent portfolios as bargaining chips to essentially share or license technologies with each other. The difference with Masimo is that they aren't willing to license their patent to Apple for a reasonable price per unit.If injunctions are that easy, we should have had them against all Samsung and Android devices back in the 2010s
Speaking as someone who is in the UK and therefore had this feature all along...
It's nice to have but probably not of any practical day to day use to most people, unless you've (sadly) got respiratory issues and/or multiple health issues.
And I guess it'll be an important early warning if you're going down with a serious virus.
But it's important to get what you paid for, so I'm glad that my US cousins will kinda sorta get this functionality.
It's nice to have but probably not of any practical day to day use to most people, unless you've (sadly) got respiratory issues and/or multiple health issues.
And I guess it'll be an important early warning if you're going down with a serious virus.
But it's important to get what you paid for, so I'm glad that my US cousins will kinda sorta get this functionality.
So does that mean the following:I’m no patent expert but seems ridiculous that “processing it on device” can be trademarked— it must be the way it’s being processed on the device bypassed. If injunctions are that easy, we should have had them against all Samsung and Android devices back in the 2010s
Will the paired iPhone must be in range in order to use this reintroduced feature?
It’s been like that with other apps used on the watch, like what’s the point of it now when it needs you to use your phone for almost every little thing
Congrats to apple on crushing a small company rather than engage in a licensing deal.
I suspect that the problem is that the courts have been interpreting the patents in an overbroad way that amounts to uses light to measure and calculate blood oxygen on a wrist worn device. This means that no matter how unique their method is, unless it uses different hardware, it's not going to be able to do this. Masimo lost key talent and has demonstrated that if you work for them you will have to work for them forever or will be a liability to any future employer, so that have limited the non-litigation business models available to them.
Small company? Compared to Apple, sure; but then again almost everyone is small compared to Apple.
Masimo has a market cap of over $11.5b and over $2B a year in revenue. They're listed on the S&P 500. We're not talking about a mom and pop shop here.
I have checked my watch readings while being tested at doctors office and it has been within 1% consistently
Nonsense, rumors say that the “small” company asked for $100 license fee per watch …
Garmin is great, but until they have cellular on device, Apple Watch wins for me.
Nor are they be required to.
There is no rule where "X huge mega corp" comes along and says we want to license your IP ... and you have to.
That doesn't then give X huge mega corp the right to do it anyway, or bully you, or anything else.
None of us should be defending how Apple comported themselves here.
(not saying you specifically are defending Apple -- but too many are)
Imagine if some company came along and insisted on being able to license IP from Apple, but "Apple refused to do it for a reasonable price" ... Just imagine the forum thread here.
I've never been around a fan site that is THIS deep in cult like defense of everything the company does.
It's truly shocking how some will defend literally ANYTHING Apple does or says.
You’ll probably be able to use the cellular AW to CALL the phone and someone nearby could check the O2 level for you, with a remote screen unlock function on the AW of course.
;-) (i spend 10 seconds looking for the facepalm emoji)
It wasn’t banned by Apple, it was banned by a court
Doesn't that patent end in 2027 or something anyway? This company needs to just cut their losses and give it up. Apple will just drag it on until they can get it for free anyway.
If you want to know something, just read beyond the headline. The answer to your question is. right. there.
I think it’s very sad that nobody is mentioning, how apple screwed the company which developed this technology. Now they again try to work around instead of polite solution and paying on the damages they caused the company 🙁FINALLY!!!
I hope this doesn’t get overruled again though.
I have a Series 9 which I bought as an upgrade from my prior Series 6, before the ban on the feature took place. So I am not affected by this ridiculousness.
Still, while I don't believe it's a great workaround, it still weakens Masimo's position; and so to me, this is a turning point in this particular fight. Masimo needs to deal now, or go home with nothing.
Still, while I don't believe it's a great workaround, it still weakens Masimo's position; and so to me, this is a turning point in this particular fight. Masimo needs to deal now, or go home with nothing.