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I'm in the market for an iPad Air and would have liked to see an updated model, but everything is a rumour until it's actually announced, so I did this to myself on this one.
Don't worry about it. The rumor mill is so certain of its speculative information that it's easy to believe them.
 
For a “well connected reporter”, they seem to be trying to read a lot from tea leaves…

Shipping delays and earnings call dates? Doesn’t sound any better connected than the rest of us with a web browser…
 
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Don't check that magic 8 ball for those.

But I'll hope with you... for you. However, I wouldn't expect historical "value" pricing for those if they do. In all scenarios, I think "starting at" builds UP from ASD pricing. In no scenario can I foresee "whole iMac 27" resurrection costing about the same as ASD with stand option.

In short: I think "starting at (about) $1699-1999 is HISTORY for an iMac "bigger" and that best hope with a base M-series chip MIGHT... MIGHT be starting at $2999. And I suspect those specs will be too little for anyone in the know, so upping too little RAM and too little (or "half speed") SSD will then get iMac "bigger" margin into the target range desired by the Corp.
Yeah, I was thinking similar specs (although updated) as the 27", but they would make it 32" and it would start at say $2499. But yeah, starting at $2,999 might be more realistic. The base 27" was such a steal back in the day, for most users.
 
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Apple is likely planning a Mac-related launch event this month that will take place on either Monday, October 30 or Tuesday, October 31, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

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The well-connected reporter's prediction is based on information obtained from sources with apparent knowledge of Apple's plans, as well as the fact that some existing Mac models are in short supply online and at Apple retail stores.

Gurman notes that several configurations of Apple's 24-inch iMac, 13-inch MacBook Pro, and 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro are facing shipping delays running into mid-November. This several-week delay alone is "a clear sign that something is about to happen," says Gurman.

Another reason leads the reporter to believe a Mac announcement will happen next week: Apple's earnings call is due to take place on Thursday, November 2. The last time the company posted its quarterly results in the month of November was in 2018, and that followed an October 30 launch event that saw new iPads and Macs.

Gurman reckons that the most likely Mac to be announced this month is a new 24-inch iMac. The current iMac has not been updated for more than 900 days, and it is the only remaining model in Apple's Mac lineup still using the M1 chip.

He also believes there is a chance we will see new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro models. This would be somewhat of a surprise, given that Apple only updated its premium MacBook Pros in January 2023. However, as Gurman notes, "an additional update the same year would be unusual, but not inconceivable."

Gurman's latest report reveals little about what improvements the new iMac will bring, but he has previously said that Apple's next iMac will leapfrog the M2 and instead adopt the rumored new M3 chip, bringing performance and efficiency improvements.


As for the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro, Gurman said he does not expect any major changes other than new processors, but his latest report stops short on offering specifics. Gurman earlier this month claimed that new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models featuring M3 Pro and M3 Max chips would likely launch between early 2024 and the spring. Gurman may be hedging in his latest predictions, which is likely to lead to speculation that an iterative update to the M2 Pro and M2 Max is coming this year instead.

Gurman says the new MacBook Pro models could include "minor improvements to displays." Notably, DigiTimes recently claimed that Apple will release new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with more efficient mini-LED displays before the end of the year. DigiTimes' report was originally met with skepticism because of the alleged launch timing, but couched in terms of Gurman's latest predictions, there could well be more substance to it after all.

Lastly, MacRumors received information in early October indicating that Apple was preparing to accept some of its latest Mac models for trade-in, suggesting it may be proceeding with plans to release new Mac models. Whether this correlates with the launch of at least one new machine in late October remains to be seen.

Article Link: Bloomberg: Apple Likely to Hold Mac Launch Event on October 30 or 31

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My gut says maybe an iMac update to M2/Pro or M3..

If, and it's a big if, we see an M3 iMac, we should see 13" M3 Air as well... 15" Air maybe as well... The Air would seem to be a better selling device and an update before the holiday shopping season would likely boost sales... so if the M3 is ready for the iMac...

MBP update? They *could* shock us by having M3 Pro and M3 Max chips and MBP updates earlier than we'd expect? It would hardly be as big a leap in performance per $ as it was when Apple went from the Iivx to the Centris 650 within months... So hardly unprecedented... But... Is M3/Pro/Max production that far along?

I'm thinking any MBP change will be a silent update to the more efficient displays that happens with the product pages getting updated while the store is down during the event...

If there's an event..

If any additional updates happen in 2023 at all ..

I feel like the entire iPad lineup really needs a rethink/reorder/simplification.. But, if they were going to have an iPad event this fall, why wouldn't they hold off on the Pencil update until the iPad update??? So...

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Magic 8 Ball says... "Check back later"
 
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My gut says maybe an iMac update to M2/Pro or M3..

If, and it's a big if, we see an M3 iMac, we should see 13" M3 Air as well... 15" Air maybe as well... The Air would seem to be a better selling device and an update before the holiday shopping season would likely boost sales... so if the M3 is ready for the iMac...

MBP update? They *could* shock us by having M3 Pro and M3 Max chips and MBP updates earlier than we'd expect? It would hardly be as big a leap in performance per $ as it was when Apple went from the Iivx to the Centris 650 within months... So hardly unprecedented... But... Is M3/Pro/Max production that far along?

I'm thinking any MBP change will be a silent update to the more efficient displays that happens with the product pages getting updated while the store is down during the event...

If there's an event..

If any additional updates happen in 2023 at all ..

I feel like the entire iPad lineup really needs a rethink/reorder/simplification.. But, if they were going to have an iPad event this fall, why wouldn't they hold off on the Pencil update until the iPad update??? So...

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Magic 8 Ball says... "Check back later"

Don't forget the 13" MacBook Pro. That is one of the machines in short supply and it is a base-M system. They are either going to discontinue it or it will be updated to the M3 along with the iMac.
 
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Buy another big storage local drive for so much less money... or buy 2 more for so much less money. Store one offsite and regularly swap one onsite with the offsite one for almost the same level of security for much less cost. TM works fine backing up to several drives. Owning your own cloud is much cheaper than renting space on Apples. The huge savings over time can buy you entirely new "expensive" Apple tech devices. Check the math yourself.
I already do all that.
 
Yeah, I was thinking similar specs (although updated) as the 27", but they would make it 32" and it would start at say $2499. But yeah, starting at $2,999 might be more realistic. The base 27" was such a steal back in the day, for most users.

If 32"- which makes sense to me too- it's probably 6K instead of 5K, which is another oddball resolution, which will command another high premium vs. say dropping to 4K or upping it to 8K for "retina" arguments. 8K screens are more commoditized than an oddball like 6K, so there would probably be some cost savings in adopting 8K over 6K for Apple... but I'd still expect oddball 6K anyway. If so, work some math from the Apple Pro Monitor pricing, maybe discounted by dropping something that makes Pro, Pro (but what is that?), leading me to upping that "starting at..." $2999 guess even more to cover the extra screen R.E. above 27".

As is, Apple could take ASD and work a "whole" Mac into it to resurrect a 27" Mac. If so, take ASD pricing and add whatever you want to add for the cost of that Mac + keyboard & mouse. I can get a minimal specced 27" iMac resurrection "starting at..." $2999 with that kind of thinking (basically put in a Mac mini's guts and also box keyboard and mouse).

However, up the screen size- which seems perfectly logical to me too- for this resurrection and the extra screen will come with its own premium to add atop that. My best guess for probably too little "starting at..." specs: $3499.

But, my actual guess is that iMac "bigger" will only roll out equipped with PRO & MAX options, probably 30"-32" and be priced more like the previous iMac branded PRO. I can deduce a possible way to sell that as low as $3499 but I wouldn't be surprised to see that starting at $3699-$3999 and "nicely specced" well into the $4K-$5.5K range.

All guesses of course. Anything can happen.
 
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MacBook Pro M4 extreme !

I'm waiting for the G5.

Actually, when the M5 Pro/Max MBPs come out, I hope someone inside Apple hides an PowerBook G5 easter egg somewhere..

I don't get the impression that there's anyone with that sense of humor left at Apple though?
 
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I already do all that.

Then maybe dodge the relatively expensive (hypothetical) TM in iCloud option. If you really want a copy in a cloud, there are many others that would cost less than iCloud.

But if you have a local TM copy or two constantly updating and one in regularly rotation offsite, I'd suggest you don't need one more option in iCloud. You're covered well. Save the iCloud premium for other Apple tech goodies. It would add up to whole iPhones or new Macs FAST.
 
I hope they hold an event to bump the iMac to M2 and put USB C on the magic keyboard and have Joanna Stern fly to California to take photos of it.

I'd like to see an updated Magic Mouse that moves the charge port to... literally anywhere else on the frakin device! If all they do is change it to USB-C.. smh..
 
You can't spell rumor without "or"

And sometimes a few shots of "rum" can help the actual reality medicine go down after all of the super-sugary speculation hypes <whatever> up to practically walking on water miraculous.

Yo ho, ho! 🏴‍☠️

You can if you spell it correctly - rumour.

EXACTLY... Our Rum... which also puts the word in the right order after a few shots of our rum. ;)
 
Then maybe dodge the relatively expensive (hypothetical) TM in iCloud option. If you really want a copy in a cloud, there are many others that would cost less than iCloud.

But if you have a local TM copy or two constantly updating and one in regularly rotation offsite, I'd suggest you don't need one more option in iCloud. You're covered well. Save the iCloud premium for other Apple tech goodies. It would add up to whole iPhones or new Macs FAST.
No, I want something in the cloud as well as the physical backups I have.

It may be hard for you to understand but not everybody has the same requirements nor is as cost sensitive as you.
 
So if announced, will these Macs actually be available, or will this be a vaporware announcement for something we’ll be able to order next year?
 
Don't forget the 13" MacBook Pro. That is one of the machines in short supply and it is a base-M system. They are either going to discontinue it or it will be updated to the M3 along with the iMac.

I mean, they have to run out of TouchBars at *some* point?

I think the next round of updates would be where we see Apple go to an M2 13" Air being the entry, replacing the Touch Bar Pro, and the M3 Airs replace the M2 Airs at the current M2 Air price points?

I mean, how many TouchBars did they make???

They have to run out of the god forsaken things at some point.. right???
 
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I mean, they have to run out of TouchBars at *some* point?

I think the next round of updates would be where we see Apple go to an M2 13" Air being the entry, replacing the Touch Bar Pro, and the M3 Airs replace the M2 Airs at the current M2 Air price points?

I mean, how many TouchBars did they make???

They have to run out of the god forsaken things at some point.. right???
What's interesting about those is that if they don't redesign the internals, you could actually upgrade your 13" M1 to an M3 by swapping the logic board and trackpad.
 
No, I want something in the cloud as well as the physical backups I have.

It may be hard for you to understand but not everybody has the same requirements nor is as cost sensitive as you.

I fully understand that everyone is not me- just chipping into a conversation to try to help out fellow consumers. TM iCloud would likely be the most expensive way to have a Mac backup in a cloud. If that's OK for anyone, great. However, there are plenty of other ways to accomplish the same confident data security that costs a lot less. Does that matter to everyone? No. But probably worth putting into such a conversation in case it does matter to some.

I welcome TM for iCloud if it shows for people happy to pay for it. For all others, there are other options likely to cost less to much less.
 
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