Very true. But Apple is going to completely transition away from x86 over the next few years. They don't see this market (virtualization on the desktop/laptop) as big for them long term. They see cloud based VM's as the future. They are looking to control the hardware completely to differentiate and push advancement forward.
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Bloomberg: Apple's First Arm Mac to Launch by 2021 With 12-Core Processor
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Very true. But Apple is going to completely transition away from x86 over the next few years. They don't see this market (virtualization on the desktop/laptop) as big for them long term. They see cloud based VM's as the future. They are looking to control the hardware completely to differentiate and push advancement forward.
groove-agent
macrumors 68020
Off topic, but I had one of those too. I think it used a Trasmetta Crusoe processor with no processor registers and used something called "code morphing" technology.
It was a super cool little laptop, but I sold it after about a year.
groove-agent
macrumors 68020
The 2012 cMBP was one of my favourite laptops of all time. Eventually things started breaking down on it after 6 years so I had to replace it.
MakeAppleAwesomeAgain
macrumors regular
NeXT was founded in ‘85, NeXTStep was first shown in ‘88 and released in ‘89.
justin216
macrumors 6502
Open to the idea. Been a Mac user since the 68030, through PowerPC and then Intel. Swift applications are probably simple to port or emulate, and Catalina already started killing legacy applications and frameworks. All about implementation and what layers are or aren't present for applications to run.
Could take the ChromeOS route with what they've did with Android and add the ability to run iOS / iPadOS apps on the device since the instruction set would be virtually identical. That's a lot of software.
Could take the ChromeOS route with what they've did with Android and add the ability to run iOS / iPadOS apps on the device since the instruction set would be virtually identical. That's a lot of software.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
my 13in 2012 cmbp is still my main machine. Using it right now
Your argument is like random word generator.
Switch will happen whether you want it or not. You are free to go for the platform that suits your needs.
Nugget
macrumors 68020
I think you're missing the nuance of the point being made. Microsoft having an ARM version of Windows doesn't imply that Microsoft have tried to transition to ARM. Windows NT was available for MIPS, but nobody would ever say that Microsoft ever tried to transition to MIPS.
It is an assumption that MacOS will be running on ARM at this stage. It really wouldn’t surprise me that these laptops aren’t just a clam shell iPad taking advantage of a slightly larger form factor for increased thermals and battery.
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soyazul
macrumors 6502
mazz0
macrumors 68040
I wasn’t being snarky or passive aggressive. I really want great mobile games, I subscribe to Apple Arcade for goodness sake, so I very much want recommendations. So far the games I play most on iPad are PC game ports (Civ VI and XCOM, both of which I think are better on iPad than on PC (though I wouldn’t think that if I wanted to use mods)). I also really, really want want Into The Breach (haven’t played that but it looks perfect for iPad) for iPad, and Two Point Hospital. But I’m kinda getting off topic here. I’d love recommendations (and if they’re in Apple Arcade all the better).
Oh I think it’s the other way round - Doom 3 was the departure, Doom... whatever the last one was called seems more like getting back to its roots, or at least that’s the impression I get, like I said I haven’t played it.
I really wanted to believe this rumor but looking into it it seems there were only a bunch of text strings found with codenames for all of AMDs GPU and APU models. These strings could likely have been supplied by AMD themselves and be related to a GPU driver. There were a bunch of really old codenames in there as well.
What makes me even more doubtful is that the rumor was never regurgitated in any form, the Air received Ice Lake, and the ARM rumors are simply more consistent.
DeepIn2U
macrumors G5
Yawn...... This is the same Bloomberg news that said this was going to happen and was announced almost two years ago.
Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs From 2020, Replacing Intel
Apple Inc. is planning to use its own chips in Mac computers beginning as early as 2020, replacing processors from Intel Corp., according to people familiar with the plans.www.bloomberg.com
This is also the sam Bloomberg that said spy chips were on motherboards from Apple and others that could be activated for spying.
I take everything I hear from them with a grain of salt.
blokmberg I doubt ever stated that. They ran an article at the height of the Trump vs.China trade war when Huawei was banned for sales and infrastructure in the US with US “intelligence” stating any hardware manuafactured in China would have rogue chips that would send the components use and connections back to China gov. The article simply mentioned Apple manufactures its products in China and could be suspect.
unless of course you have the specific article stating what you claim.
kildraik
macrumors 6502a
Transition: the process or a period of changing from one state or condition to another.
Microsoft building an ARM based version of Windows and "transitioning to ARM" are two completely different things.
dingclancy23
macrumors 6502
meboy
macrumors 6502
I'm waiting for my MacBook 12 convertible with pen support. (Probably the first Arm Mac)
Have you seen some of the ported iOS apps? Current macOS version are much better. macOS Mail is better than iOS Mail.
high heaven
Suspended
Yawn...... This is the same Bloomberg news that said this was going to happen and was announced almost two years ago.
Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs From 2020, Replacing Intel
Apple Inc. is planning to use its own chips in Mac computers beginning as early as 2020, replacing processors from Intel Corp., according to people familiar with the plans.
This is also the sam Bloomberg that said spy chips were on motherboards from Apple and others that could be activated for spying.
I take everything I hear from them with a grain of salt.
Because a new rumor suggested ARM delayed to 2021.
Did he edit in the article after you replied? Because it's there, from 2018, and they did in fact say what the poster claimed they said.
Even so, they'd only be off by 6 months or so. It's been clear Apple plans on creating ARM Mac products (if not a full transition away from Intel) for several years.
persuasiveghost
macrumors member
I really liked when Apple transitioned to Intel for their processors and still think that it is, in spite of the flaws, the best option. I like the idea and capabilities of RISC type processors but I still feel strongly about them having their place outside of the mac ecosystem. If they do decide to go this route, I hope we are left with options.
I didn't need x86 at that time, but my work has changed since then. I only mentioned it to drive home what a big deal it would be for me to transition to Linux, which would be my only realistic choice in an ARM-only Mac world.
x86 has been a requirement for my job for about 10 years now. If that weren't the case I'd be excited for ARM Macs.