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Bloomberg: Next-Generation MacBook Pro to Offer Improved Displays, Faster Charging Over MagSafe
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They can also add their own, faster power delivery spec to charge through USB-C. Texas Instruments for example have a working 200 watt over USB-C implementation. It's not spec-compliant, sure, but Apple could use custom USB-C connectors and cables that are capable of withstanding higher currents without losing backwards-compatibility. Definitely a more elegant solution if you are looking for higher-power charging than going back to specialized ports.
And besides... why do we need faster charging in the first place? Maximal battery capacity is limited by 100Watt-hours anyway. A standard 100W USB PD changer can fill then up in 1 hour. Let's say 1.5-2 hours if you are using the laptop. My 16" inch charges up from zero to almost 100% in the time I need to have my lunch break. I don't really see it as highest priority target to tackle.
when you are using your laptop that apple watch on it, doesnt bother you? its not convenient at all
i see that adoption only on the next imac stand base...to support Qi charging...
Yes.
At 200 watts, we can finally ditch those godawful proprietary barrel connectors with a tiny delicate pin at the center that can easily break and getting a replacement is close to impossible because the manufacturer doesn't have it in stock anymore (Yes, HP. I am talking about you) on ~95% of laptops.
of course..but a lot of users dont know about bettertouchtools ..so Apple should made that default but its too late now it seems
My guess is, the RF team at Apple is hard at work on this and will launch late 2021 or early 2022. Apple insists on designing their own antennas. A sub-par 5G antenna design won’t be noticeable on iPhone or iPad, but a MacBook user will notice every megabit of difference.
Basically it is both the voltage and current rating for the connector. P(max) = V * I = 20V * 5A = 100W.
The pin spacing limits the voltage while the pin contact area, cross-sectional area limits the current. Until a new connector is developed and a new spec is written, 100W is what the specs allows.
This however would be more relevant to third-party gaming laptop rather then to Apple MacBook. I don't see Apple making a laptop that needs to draw more than 90 watts in sustained operation.
If they want to go over 100W charging then it's possible to do it with a USB C charger, but it needs a special cable using a larger gauge wire. If they launched a 130W version of their existing power brick and someone used it with a third party USB C cable, they only have to be certified to 100W under the USB standard so there is some risk of damage there. Others like Dell have gotten round this by building in the cable to the power brick, but if they're going to do that, then bringing back MagSafe pretty much makes sense anyway.
this
gurman is still bitter that fat clown prosser outdid him last year.
the current pros have a curved bottom and lid with flat sides.
I expect the them to lose the curves and go flat with a thicker lid for 1080p, it’ll probably look like a two iPad Pros together when closed.
I want
M2
Superb display with maybe mini LED
Smaller bezels
1080p cam
Really dark space gray or black
Flat industrial iPad/iPhone design
I don’t care about MagSafe, although it could be a MagSafe charger for the port less iPhone?
not bothered about the Touch Bar but want Touch ID at least if no Face ID.
Oh didn’t think/know of this, would touchbar receive a lot less hate if it had haptic feedback! There’s still the issue of “feeling” where the keys are when traditional fn keys are displayed... I don’t have a touchbar but on paper and using it on stores it looks like such a genius idea, dynamically updated buttons.
The butterfly keyboard, maybe it will come back when/if fully refined and reliable, at least on several reviews the feeling of them was split between which one was best (butterfly vs scissor)... maybe it can be made to be truly superior and the next step in keyboards.
These chargers negotiate the aspects of the connection etc. with the controller, so I don't really see a problem here. There would be obviously some sort of special feature in the cable that would identify itself as capable of higher currents to both endpoints. I mean, I can use my 90 watt MBP charger to charge an Android smartphone... it obviously wouldn't send all the available current to the device.
The end result would be Apple still has to call it USB-C. And that’s not what Apple wants.
Nobody asked for MagSafe on iPhone or Touch Bar on MacBook. It’s one do those things that differentiate Apple from the competition whether or not it’s useful for consumers.
Apple is serious about their accessory profits. They don’t want you buying a USB-C charger from Anker or Aukey.
of course....we all seen what power draw the M1 ..that was just an reply to your post thats all
I dont see Apple doing or need it....if they didnt do it with Intel and amd dedicated gpu in the past...they will not do it now for sure...with this power per watt that apple is doing, no need more than 90 watts...i think today the 16" has 96W power adapter
I dont see Apple still offering 99.9‑watt‑hour lithium but 80 or something , and thats why with mag-safe will charge quickly
That is a good point. But if that is the sole motivation, it's not a change that would benefit customers. I don't understand why people get so exited about possible reintroduction of a proprietary charging solution.
It's not just about tripping over a cord.
It's about being able to connect the cable to charge without needing to see and direct the tip into the socket, like when you're in the dark about to go to bed, or in a rush without a direct view of the side of your Mac.
It's about being able to see whether or not your MacBook is fully charged without turning on the power or opening the lid, like when you shut down for the night and want to know that your Mac is fully charged in the morning. Without the light turning from red to green, you'd have no idea without turning on the computer.
It's about knowing that power is going into your Mac with the visual light, rather than needing the disruptive sound that can bother other people in the library or workplace, and may even indicate the Mac turning on when you want it to stay off.
It's about not wasting a port for power when you have other peripherals, like wired keyboard, mouse, transceiver fobs, external thumb drives, and devices.
Think about customers other than yourself! The world doesn't revolve around you.
When people talk about the likes of MagSafe and SD card slot not taking up extra space, they seem to only take thickness into account. When you add a port, you also have to reserve a space for the connection of that port inside the chassis which could otherwise be used for battery/cooling etc no matter how small that space is.
While I have inconvenience at times for only having USB-C ports, whenever I go back to a device with older ports, I am searching for an extra USB-C/Thunderbolt port which MacBook Pro already has 3 more. Therefore, by MagSafe, I hope it is a new different way of implementing it still via USB-C somehow, and I hope there won't be an HDMI or USB-A port.
While I have inconvenience at times for only having USB-C ports, whenever I go back to a device with older ports, I am searching for an extra USB-C/Thunderbolt port which MacBook Pro already has 3 more. Therefore, by MagSafe, I hope it is a new different way of implementing it still via USB-C somehow, and I hope there won't be an HDMI or USB-A port.
now with the unified memory, arm architecture...on an 14" and 16" mbp with maybe smaller battery, space inside will not be a problem anymore
The displays size will make the dimensions of the mbp now
I don’t think Apple only wants 125W charging. They want to do it with a thin cable. That means voltages in excess of 30V. If Apple implements dual cell charging like Vivo, Xiaomi, Realme, etc. they need their own charging spec.
I think that should be a chance for them to make 16" MacBook Pro as small as the 15" one which is thinner, smaller and lighter if they could reduce the bezel thickness. After that, better mics and speaker could be provided for any space that is left.
I’m currently on a 13” 2013 and really want to charge from both ends! Being able to charge from one side always frustrates me a little. I imagine the MagSafe would be like the iPhone 12, you can have it (you would need to buy the charger) but you can still charge from usb.