100% agree! Was ready to jump on the m1! Also the lack of mini led would have left me with buyers remorse given that the release is relatively short after (in comparison to how long I have been saving and wanting an upgrade)
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Bloomberg: Next-Generation MacBook Pro to Offer Improved Displays, Faster Charging Over MagSafe
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All these things can be addressed without introducing a new charger connector. They could be easily accommodated in a proprietary USB-C charging cable.
I don't see this as a critical concern. USB-C is by design multi-purpose, so if there are a lot of devices you are connecting, you are already probably using a hub of some sort.
An additional power connector would take away significant precious space inside the chassis that could be used for more important things, as @aeronatis correctly points out.
Why can't we have like a charger with a magsafe tip? As in the wire has a magnetic connection to a USB-C tip, if the wire gets pulled, only the USB-C tip will remain in the Macbook.
Very easy, you arrive home, connect your macbook pro trought usb c to your dock and voila, everything is conmected, energy, screen, drives etc...
I really hope it can. I'd hate to think that a redesigned MagSafe connector from 2006 was the height of Apple's 2021.
That feature exists with USB-C
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That feature isn't exclusively made possible by MagSafe. You're not giving a good reason why a MagSafe port should exist since Apple could easily build that feature with USB-C cables.
Many USB-C products provide full power + data. Anker hubs, eGPUS, monitors, etc... all over a single cable provide both data and power. 0 ports wasted.
Also you're wasting a port with MagSafe since Apple could build a 5th port as USB-C instead.
Sure. Think about the 70 year old buying a MacBook. So the 70 year old either has think about traveling with the family a couple of charging bricks, a Mac MagSafe, USB-C, and lightning cables simply because the MacBook came with a MagSafe charger. That's way too complicated for the user. Bring one charger, one usb-c cable, and one lightning cable instead. Far simpler.
I'm not really sure this "faster charging" goal makes a lot of sense. We already have 85W USB-C charging, and the maximum allowed battery size (limited by airline regulations) is 100 Wh. So typical charging times are already not much over an hour.
Meanwhile, Apple are moving to Apple Silicon which is much more efficient and offers much longer battery life anyway. Is there really any need for charging speeds beyond what USB-C can achieve?
Meanwhile, Apple are moving to Apple Silicon which is much more efficient and offers much longer battery life anyway. Is there really any need for charging speeds beyond what USB-C can achieve?
Since the USB-C ports will still be there, can't they just let users choose which connection to charge from? I'd very much like to maintain freedom of being able to charge from either side of the laptop and also using non-Apple chargers if I forgot mine at home.
Or will the Touch Bar just grow until it replaces both the keyboard and trackpad, making a giant, haptic, second touch screen?
What do you think, how does it works? It needs coils inside the mac. Where the battery is right now. Hence it sacrifices battery life.
And the problem is that usb c now does a lot more than just charging.
Can you imagine using a single usb c or thunderbolt cable for charging, display and data transfer, and then losing all that the moment the cable gets disconnected from your laptop because you looked at it wrong?
Not to mention that with M1 Macs now boasting longer battery life than ever, people are less dependent on charging. This makes the MacBook more like an iPad in that regard. Charge overnight, have enough juice to use unplugged throughout the day.
MagSafe had a legitimate benefit when laptops had 2-hour battery lives. There is no need for MagSafe today.
Removing it makes perfect sense.
I don’t care at all about MagSafe, and I’m more worried that it’s going to mean that I can’t use any of the 4 ports on either side of my laptop to charge like I can on the current models.
Being able to charge on either side of the laptop has been one of my favorite perks of the latest gen of MacBook Pros, and I don’t want that going away.
Being able to charge on either side of the laptop has been one of my favorite perks of the latest gen of MacBook Pros, and I don’t want that going away.
Yes, not being able to charge on USB-C would be awful for many reasons. It's super easy to find a spare USB-C charger/cable in a pinch if you forgot yours, but it's going to be a total pain with yet another new Magsafe variant.
Standardized chargers also reduce e-waste! On one hand, we have Apple not shipping chargers with iPhones in the name of reducing e-waste. But meanwhile they're reintroducing proprietary charging plugs on Macs? It makes no sense!
Not sure i get your point , will the mini also go away because "no touch" ? Mac Pro is a headless desktop , what does it have to do with Touch ?
If , and thats a big IF , apple goes with touch screen , they wont be touch screen only I/F , so a MacPro and the Mini will still be in the lineup , or at least they wont go away because of touch.
Never understood the hype around the magsafe ,and Ive been using latops and macs for a very long time , if my mac is connected to a charger its almost always on my table when i use it as a desktop (and today as other mentioned i charge and connect to the display on the same cable!) , when in a pinch and i need to charge and use it on the couch for example , its a rare occasion but when im done using it , i put it on the couch or plug it out and be done with it.
The only place where i EVER tripped on the charging cable was on a business trip working from the hotel , where the desk setup and the electric outlet was not ideal to use charging cable , but other then that... yha , that thing was never useful to me , starting to get hyped for the new MBP !!!! cant believe I finally come to MacRumors to read about mac`s!!! good time ahead
The only place where i EVER tripped on the charging cable was on a business trip working from the hotel , where the desk setup and the electric outlet was not ideal to use charging cable , but other then that... yha , that thing was never useful to me , starting to get hyped for the new MBP !!!! cant believe I finally come to MacRumors to read about mac`s!!! good time ahead
They probably could implement a limit unless the cable pings the computer an ID to say it's capable of >100W or something, but again, simplicity. If the connector looks the same average joe is going to expect it to work the same.
I guess that's similar to what Microsoft have done with the latest surfaces? 20 second mark in this video:
You also need to reserve data/video capacity for it.
Case in point: M1 Mac minis only support 1 display connected via TB3/USB-C, because one stream is dedicated to the HDMI port.
I have really come to appreciate the aesthetic of Apple Watch. There is something to the interface that’s very generic yet sophisticated and unique. I am hoping that Apple will integrate these hardware design notes into the new Macs. Very excited to see what they have come up with.
Says the person advocating for a single-use port, in favour of a multi-use port.
Dang, my 2013 MacBook Pro screen crapped out on me the other day. Had to order a new one for school. Was holding out for a new screen and design. Oh well. The M1 MBP is going to feel light years ahead of my old 2013z
MagSafe's magnetic connection is obviously nice, buuuuut…
- it's proprietary, and there was never really much of a third-party market. In contrast, there are a lot of choices for USB-C chargers of various kinds.
- it's only on one side. You can charge a modern MBP (except for the low-end 13-inch ) from any of the four ports, on either side!
- it only charges. In contrast, the USB-C port can be combined with a hub or dock, so you can hook up charging, displays, accessories, networking, etc. all with one cable.
I would like to see a magnetic variant of USB-C, but other than that, going back to MagSafe is not at all a clear win.
All talk about Macbooks but no word about mini. They could easily stuff 4 M1X into chassis without issue
I dare say a lot of the decisions of the current 2016+ range was due to Jonny Ive.
Since his departure, Apple has walked back on a few things, such as the keyboard. Perhaps this is a further step towards restoring superior functionality. They tried new things, and seen the results and feedback, so will now go back to what worked.
I'd love to see the power indicator lights return to be honest. and better charging cable + brick.
Since his departure, Apple has walked back on a few things, such as the keyboard. Perhaps this is a further step towards restoring superior functionality. They tried new things, and seen the results and feedback, so will now go back to what worked.
I'd love to see the power indicator lights return to be honest. and better charging cable + brick.
The thing is, unlike the keyboard - which was clearly worse than it's predecessor - MagSafe was itself not perfect and was inferior in many ways to the USB-C solution. A particular issue was that the cables would wear out and break near the MagSafe tip, requiring replacement of the entire charger unit.
Hopefully, this time around the cable will be seperate, meaning you can just replace the cable when it fails. And presumably it will still plug in to a standard USB-C charging brick at the other end.
Oh, no!! The last thing we need is more tacky blinkenlights!