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My first and only CED player was the RCA SJT-400. Lasted for over a decade and we had scores of CED media, most of which held up pretty well.

What is ironic about CED is it was the last USA designed format. If RCA would have came out with it about 5 years earlier before video tape got a foothold on the market it probably would have been much more successful. RCA might even be alive today as a corporation and not just a brand.

Right after CED player manufacturing stopped people began to build nice video libraries for very little money since the disks were still floating around. Considering HD DVD is a much more reliable format those who don't need the latest and greatest might be able to build a pretty nice HD library for pennies on the dollar. The only issue would be finding a player if yours broke down in the future since I assume player manufacturing will probably end later this year unless Toshiba feels there is enough of a market to continue building one as a replacement model with minimal engineering expense. Exactly how many years would the HD DVD discs last if properly cared for? Anyone know?
 
Seriously, you guys think a BluRay drive will be in excess of $1000 optional? NewEgg has internal drives starting at $200 for readers and $400 for writers. I'll admit that these are probably not the brands that Apple would sell, but still, $1,000 seems too steep.

What do you think Apple will call these drives?
SuperDrive = DVD/CD writer
??? = BluRay/DVD/CD writer

There is no way it would be that expensive. Dell has been selling bto blue ray drives on even their cheapest models for 160 bucks -- and they've been doing so for at least several months. Jobs has been taking advantage of all folks here who have mac tunnel vision. look around people the hardware in those macs that apple is selling is outdated and over priced. The folks at apple have no reason to incorporate cutting edge tech anymore because of all the fan kids who seemingly want those mbps for nothing but the 'design', as i keep seeing on these boards. get over it folks, the hardware in these macs isnt that great right now. apple needs to put out something serious next week. I decided to join the boards last week to check out what people thought was going to happen at mac world, and reading peoples posts it seems like everyone here is oblivious with regard to where technology is these days.
 
Considering HD DVD is a much more reliable format those who don't need the latest and greatest might be able to build a pretty nice HD library for pennies on the dollar. The only issue would be finding a player if yours broke down in the future since I assume player manufacturing will probably end later this year unless Toshiba feels there is enough of a market to continue building one as a replacement model with minimal engineering expense. Exactly how many years would the HD DVD discs last if properly cared for? Anyone know?

very true about getting a decent amount of titles for cheap. I WANT THE BOURNE TRILOGY!!!

I would imagine this would also be the case for players, prices are already coming down A LOT!!! I am not sure how it will affect combo players....at first I thought they would drop in price too, but they might be a hot commodity for the hd-dvd enthusiasts. I don't think many people besides hd-dvd owners have a reason to buy a combo anymore though, so prices should come down as format war dwindles.

i assume the hd-dvd discs would last long enough, but im more familiar with the blu-ray discs so ill let someone else answer that
 
very true about getting a decent amount of titles for cheap. I WANT THE BOURNE TRILOGY!!!

I would imagine this would also be the case for players, prices are already coming down A LOT!!! I am not sure how it will affect combo players....at first I thought they would drop in price too, but they might be a hot commodity for the hd-dvd enthusiasts. I don't think many people besides hd-dvd owners have a reason to buy a combo anymore though, so prices should come down as format war dwindles.

i assume the hd-dvd discs would last long enough, but im more familiar with the blu-ray discs so ill let someone else answer that

Well seeing where they are going with prices on the players (now with an msrp of $149 on the A3 and likely a sale price under $100 and the 1080p model for $199) it appears that Toshiba is basically trying to sell them as an alternative to a upconvert only DVD player. I own the A3 and it is a solid well built player, probably a lot better then what you are going to find for $49.95.

I am sure I will be in the market by next year at this time for a Blu-ray player and I would love to see an a dual format player for under $400 so HD DVD people have a way to transistion to Blu-ray. It would also ensure that discs are not just wasted and thrown out because throwing away a disc with a 1080p movie on it would be stupid no matter the format. Anyhow, it might just be cheaper for me to have 2 players, but I will see by next year.

I know you are a big Blu-ray supporter and I have became neutral (in mind for now) after the Warner announcement, but you might have to get one and experiment with it if the hardware and movies get cheap enough. I think you might see that those of us who bought HD DVD were not crazy. It works very well, however with the Warner announcement HD DVD owners have to at least add a Blu-ray player or they will be left out.
 
Well seeing where they are going with prices on the players (now with an msrp of $149 on the A3 and likely a sale price under $100 and the 1080p model for $199) it appears that Toshiba is basically trying to sell them as an alternative to a upconvert only DVD player. I own the A3 and it is a solid well built player, probably a lot better then what you are going to find for $49.95.

I am sure I will be in the market by next year at this time for a Blu-ray player and I would love to see an a dual format player for under $400 so HD DVD people have a way to transistion to Blu-ray. It would also ensure that discs are not just wasted and thrown out because throwing away a disc with a 1080p movie on it would be stupid no matter the format. Anyhow, it might just be cheaper for me to have 2 players, but I will see by next year.

I know you are a big Blu-ray supporter and I have became neutral (in mind for now) after the Warner announcement, but you might have to get one and experiment with it if the hardware and movies get cheap enough. I think you might see that those of us who bought HD DVD were not crazy. It works very well, however with the Warner announcement HD DVD owners have to at least add a Blu-ray player or they will be left out.

yeah, I saw those major pricedrops and press release marketing themselves as upconverters.

a lot of blu-ray fans, and others, are acting like toshiba is out to destroy the HD market now, or at least bring blu-ray down with hd-dvd. Although I don't doubt they wish they could do this, I think it is just them trying to get rid of the stock.

I really dont think your crazy, i just "knew" that blu-ray was slighty better than hd-dvd, and it already had come from behind to beat hd-dvd in sales every single week in 2007. that was a good sign that it would eventually win out. anything in HD is awesome, same goes for hd-dvd, its just there can only be one and why settle for second best?

I will wait to see what happens with paramount and universal before even considering an hd-dvd player...but if prices come down a lot and those last 2 studios are being stubborn I won't rule it out (not very likely). I have a feeling I won't need to wait long though and am happy enough with the titles I have to worry about the titles I really want but arent on blu (bourne trilogy, batman begins (coming soon), hot fuzz hehe)

i didn't really mean for it to turn out this way, but I already have 3 blu-ray drives (ps3, external blu ray burner for mac, and I just got a media center dell with internal blu-ray reader) so if I can avoid getting another blu-ray/hd-dvd combo drive I will :D
 
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