I know it is a long shot but it would nice if apple did support blu-ray on it's computers. Here is keeping fingers crossed!
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Blu-ray Support in Mac OS X 10.5.6?
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i know snow leopard will have blu-ray. i think the higher end computers will have blu-ray superdrives also. i am holding out on my macbook until blu-ray, 10.6 or MWSF...
As I'm sure it's been stated throughout this thread (possibly over and over again), those slim slot loaders that would fit in MBs and MBPs are either rare and super expensive or non-existent at the moment.
So, once again, it's form over function.
Apple users can't get a useful technology, because it conflicts with the latest Apple fashions in hardware.
Oh well, go with the "bag of hurt" sermon from the prophet...while BD drives show up in $700 laptops from the other vendors.
I'd like to see Blu-ray support added... not so that I can play movies back (although that would be a bonus), but so that I can use Blu-ray discs as backup media. It'd be great to be able to burn 50 GB of data to a single disc, rather than having to burn multiple 8.5 GB DVDs. I've held off buying a Blu-ray burner for my Mac Pro because I don't want to have to use some whacky third-party utility to burn discs; I want burning support to be built in to the OS, and I want to be able to buy a certified burner from Apple so that I know there won't be any kludginess or compatibility issues.
Ahh, don't get me wrong; I think we're at least a year late on the Blu-Ray game. Not really feeling the bandwidth and hard drive space and backing up that HD downloads would bring. I have too many damn hard drives and burned DVD+Rs, CD-Rs, etc. etc. as it is.
If they just built in support quietly, then at least MP users could do the Blu-Ray thang, and others could get external drives if they so choose.
ive already had this conversation a few pages back, on page 10, (Here!).
i must say i disagree with you, for a few reasons.
while the space of a BD is very handy, they cost SO much! here is australia for the price of 2 BD's i can purchase a 500gb desktop drive, access would be faster and backing up would take about 1/10th of the time.
unless you have a whole entire night to burn 50gb of data, its useless. even with a 6x burner that is going to take a long long time to burn.
lets face it, 50gb isnt all that much space anyway, you'll hold what 2hrs of high definition movies? if that!? its not that much these days. a hard drive will be more economical, wont scratch as easily, and holds much much more.
there are a few more things but they're not as big, i have no idea why apple hasnt implented BluRay yet. slot loading BR drives would be very expensive and not all that fast, hardly good enough for burning let alone only just managing to play an actual movie.
my personal opinion though so yea..
Yes, but you can handle your discs carefully. And I've never had a CD or DVD become unreadable due to scratches.
Hard drives, on the other hand, fail when they feel like failing and take all of your data with them... and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. Optical discs are clearly the superior format for long-term or backup storage.
and for the price of two more bluray discs, you can get yourself another 500gb hard drive
. so for the price of 4 BluRay discs you have 2x500gb hard drives! mirror them, raid 0 them or whatever you want. you still get 10 times the storage, and it only takes minutes not hours to backup 50gb. im sorry but the benefits of HDs are clear to me.
didnt realise the size of the laser was THAT small!
imagine burning 1TB to a BluRay drive.... :| 5 days later..
and for the price of two more bluray discs, you can get yourself another 500gb hard drive
so for the price of 4 BluRay discs you have 2x500gb hard drives! mirror them, raid 0 them or whatever you want. you still get 10 times the storage, and it only takes minutes not hours to backup 50gb. im sorry but the benefits of HDs are clear to me.
It's all about mixed media, off site backups.
good point, but like i said, 50gb isnt that much storage space. wouldnt be that good in the multimedia market, but i guess for someone with tons of documents, pdfs and the like would be ideal...for read only purposes anyway.
From another thread, in response to a post that DVD is good enough for the Imac....
A DVD's native resolution is 640x480¹ - 300K pixels.
The 20" Imac is 1680x1050 - 1764K pixels. That's more than enough for 720p HD - 720p is 1280x720 - 922K pixels.
The 24" Imac is 1920x1200 - 2304K pixels. It is 1080p HD capable - 1080p is 1920x1080 - 2074K pixels.
Believe me, shrinking a two megapixel picture down to 1.8 Mpixel will look a lot better than stretching a 300 Kpixel image to about 2 Mpixel!
My comment, though, was that slow internet speeds will give life to Blu-ray Disc - replying to someone who's opinion is that BD is dead on arrival. Your internet speed and anecdotal evidence supports me.
Yes, DVD is good enough for most people. (Crappy 128Kbps MP3 or AAC is also "good enough" for most people, apparently.)
But, any laptop or desktop with a screen that is much larger than 640x480 should benefit greatly from the high resolution BD image, even if it need to be scaled down to a 1680x1050 or smaller screen.
There's also the advantage that you can buy the BD version of the movie, and play it on your big screen, your desktop, and your laptop. There's little excuse for Apple not to add BD drives as BTO options on all systems.
¹ In square pixels...
Apple WILL have to at some point put blu-ray drives int heir machines and no doubt apple will charge through the ****ing roof for them to be fitted!
They have no choice because the need for blu-ray is getting bigger and biggeger now what with video editing and more!
I think if aple don't support blu-ray in osx 10.6 i can see a lot of fans going to pc's or at least buying pc blu ray burners and putting windows on their macs.
I mean it's annoying as hell. I'd love to burn to blu ray. all those hd videos!!
Will they? won't they... probably never will because lets face it apple rarely listens to their customers!!
customers use firewire in macbooks apple removes it
They have no choice because the need for blu-ray is getting bigger and biggeger now what with video editing and more!
I think if aple don't support blu-ray in osx 10.6 i can see a lot of fans going to pc's or at least buying pc blu ray burners and putting windows on their macs.
I mean it's annoying as hell. I'd love to burn to blu ray. all those hd videos!!
Will they? won't they... probably never will because lets face it apple rarely listens to their customers!!
customers use firewire in macbooks apple removes it
Just bought a Dell for my wife. The blu-ray upgrade was $150, or $400 if you want a blu-ray burner (includes Roxio Creator).
I've been a PC user all my life but wanted to give the Macbook Pro a try since I have a number of friends who really like them. I've put off buying a laptop for a year, checking MacRumors every day looking for news on blu-ray. I want a blu-ray drive on my Macbook Pro so that I can:
a) store raw files on optical media
b) play the movies I purchase at the store (we only buy in high def now)
I was led to understand that Apple was always at the head of the pack, but now I see every major PC manufacturer offers blu-ray and Apple, who is part of the blu-ray camp, is not.
With regret, it seems I won't be purchasing a Macbook Pro after all. I've waited long enough now, and while I've been annoyed with PCs from time to time, I've never suffered a major catastrophe due to using a PC. I'll wait a few days just to be 100% certain there's nothing coming out of Macworld. After that, it's back to Dell for me. I'm disappointed; I would've liked to have tried the Macbook Pro, just not for the current price minus blu-ray functionality.
i dont know where you have been reading, but apple has never been the "oh lets go with the newest technology and see where it puts us" type of people. apple is a company that ensures that a technology is acceptable before they implement it into their whole market, so they clearly havent implemented it yet because of that reason (plus a few more, such as availability of drives, and prices of slot-loading drives)
The 9400M (chipset) and the use of cpus before they are publicly available says otherwise.
Plus killing the floppy, being the second vendor to announce DVD burners, being in the first wave of LED backlights for LCDs, ....
Sent this to Apple Feedback today
"Hello Apple team
I have been waiting for a long time to replace my aging PowerBook G4 17".
However, I will not buy _any_ new Mac product before
1. it has a built-in Blu-ray optical drive (read-only will do for the moment, every other major mamanufacturer has products in their line-up!)
and
2. the pricing is better (compared to other high-end prodcts from the PC sector).
I hope Macworld will bring us a fitting product!
Regards,
..."
"Hello Apple team
I have been waiting for a long time to replace my aging PowerBook G4 17".
However, I will not buy _any_ new Mac product before
1. it has a built-in Blu-ray optical drive (read-only will do for the moment, every other major mamanufacturer has products in their line-up!)
and
2. the pricing is better (compared to other high-end prodcts from the PC sector).
I hope Macworld will bring us a fitting product!
Regards,
..."