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Blu-Ray is not uncompressed either, just that it's *less* compressed than downloads. If you want uncompressed, go to a movie theater that does not have digital projector :)
 
Blu-Ray is not uncompressed either, just that it's *less* compressed than downloads. If you want uncompressed, go to a movie theater that does not have digital projector :)

Actually, that's why HD movies downloaded through iTunes or the Roku player are about 720p resolution and probably with a little less color depth in order keep the file size down. That's still inferior to a true Blu-ray disc, which has 1080p resolution and full color depth even with AVC or VC-1 compression.
 
No it doesn't, and why would i want it to?
ive never played a DVD on my iMac or PC. I have a DVD player and a BR player hooked up to a 60 inch plasma. Why would i want to watch it on a 17inch or 24inch screen. Fair enough for HTPC users then you can play the specific m2ts file through plex or xmbc.

And as downloads go , it will be a while before the world can accommodate HD downloads that are close to BR quality. Personally i hope it doesn't happen, because you can bet that each store will tie there movies in DRM, and there will be alot of trouble between different devices and the different stores offering content. At least now you can buy a BD movie from any store and play it on any BD player

So you have a notebook, that are generally made for .... traveling with, so if you goto a hotel room and say oooh i'll play that BR movie now.... nope! sorry :p
Where's your 60" Plasma / BR Player now? huh? huh?

Don't forget your not the only person in the world and not everyone has the same needs as you :)
 
So you have a notebook, that are generally made for .... traveling with, so if you goto a hotel room and say oooh i'll play that BR movie now.... nope! sorry :p
Where's your 60" Plasma / BR Player now? huh? huh?

Don't forget your not the only person in the world and not everyone has the same needs as you :)
Don't forget hat your wants aren't necessarily congruent with reality.

Why would I want to carry around a bunch of easily scratchable discs with me when I have a HDD that can store any video file I want, load it faster than an optical disc and use considerably less power on my notebook. Taking DVDs with you whilst traveling is a fool's task and a PITA.

You are also not considering that in order for Apple to include a BRD it has to A) increase the size of their machines considerably in order to keep the cost of the BRD equivalent to that of other vendors, or B) charge considerably more to have the currently non-existent 9.5mm BRD brought to market. None of that makes sense for a technology that is not popular with the vast majority of mobile users.
 
Don't forget hat your wants aren't necessarily congruent with reality.

Why would I want to carry around a bunch of easily scratchable discs with me when I have a HDD that can store any video file I want, load it faster than an optical disc and use considerably less power on my notebook. Taking DVDs with you whilst traveling is a fool's task and a PITA.

It's hard to copy BR movies to disc, due to copy protection. HD downloads don't make up for it, as they are of lower quality and some people don't have such fast internet connections/download limits in the world. I'm all for copying BR discs to HD, but it's very hard/impossible depending on what movie you have.
 
Don't forget hat your wants aren't necessarily congruent with reality.

Why would I want to carry around a bunch of easily scratchable discs with me when I have a HDD that can store any video file I want, load it faster than an optical disc and use considerably less power on my notebook. Taking DVDs with you whilst traveling is a fool's task and a PITA.

You are also not considering that in order for Apple to include a BRD it has to A) increase the size of their machines considerably in order to keep the cost of the BRD equivalent to that of other vendors, or B) charge considerably more to have the currently non-existent 9.5mm BRD brought to market. None of that makes sense for a technology that is not popular with the vast majority of mobile users.

http://www.laptopsarena.com/panasonic-95-mm-blu-ray-samples-shipped/

They are starting to exist, well in time for Apple to start looking at putting these into their laptops.

Also WHAT THE HELL? i'm not dreaming of taking BR to a hotel with me... IM DOING IT NOW.... hell even a £279 Toshiba has bluray!!!!
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?0&page=ProductList&category_oid=-35842&show_all=true

Of course it's not a macbook pro but the prices are coming down and it's becoming more mainstream.

And it's NOT a fools task... stop calling me a fool!!! thank you very much, i take DVD's with me, i play them in my car and i play them on my laptop.... ITS A BLOODY PORTABLE MEDIUM!!!
 
Don't forget hat your wants aren't necessarily congruent with reality.

Why would I want to carry around a bunch of easily scratchable discs with me when I have a HDD that can store any video file I want, load it faster than an optical disc and use considerably less power on my notebook. Taking DVDs with you whilst traveling is a fool's task and a PITA.

You are also not considering that in order for Apple to include a BRD it has to A) increase the size of their machines considerably in order to keep the cost of the BRD equivalent to that of other vendors, or B) charge considerably more to have the currently non-existent 9.5mm BRD brought to market. None of that makes sense for a technology that is not popular with the vast majority of mobile users.

that is exactly my opinion, HDD are so much easier to carry around, hell i could copy a couple of my favourite movies onto my 500gb internal laptop HD to watch them! then i dont need to carry anything around at all....

It's hard to copy BR movies to disc, due to copy protection. HD downloads don't make up for it, as they are of lower quality and some people don't have such fast internet connections/download limits in the world. I'm all for copying BR discs to HD, but it's very hard/impossible depending on what movie you have.

that program for PC seems to work pretty darn fine..

http://www.laptopsarena.com/panasonic-95-mm-blu-ray-samples-shipped/

They are starting to exist, well in time for Apple to start looking at putting these into their laptops.

Also WHAT THE HELL? i'm not dreaming of taking BR to a hotel with me... IM DOING IT NOW.... hell even a £279 Toshiba has bluray!!!!
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?0&page=ProductList&category_oid=-35842&show_all=true

Of course it's not a macbook pro but the prices are coming down and it's becoming more mainstream.

And it's NOT a fools task... stop calling me a fool!!! thank you very much, i take DVD's with me, i play them in my car and i play them on my laptop.... ITS A BLOODY PORTABLE MEDIUM!!!

your forgetting probably one important fact, apple uses slot-loading drives! the panasonic drive is a tray-loading, so that is never going to happen.

in regards to that pcworld link, there wasnt even a Toshiba laptop on the webpage!! and the 279 pound (cant do the symbol) laptop doesnt even have a DVD drive... its a pathetic machine, exactly what i would expect for such a low price.
 
that is exactly my opinion, HDD are so much easier to carry around, hell i could copy a couple of my favourite movies onto my 500gb internal laptop HD to watch them! then i dont need to carry anything around at all....



that program for PC seems to work pretty darn fine..



your forgetting probably one important fact, apple uses slot-loading drives! the panasonic drive is a tray-loading, so that is never going to happen.

in regards to that pcworld link, there wasnt even a Toshiba laptop on the webpage!! and the 279 pound (cant do the symbol) laptop doesnt even have a DVD drive... its a pathetic machine, exactly what i would expect for such a low price.

It must have gone! there was a Toshiba for £279 with BluRay, that had been advertised here on TV. My POINT is that if these can add a BluRay drive then surely apple can. My point also was that there are 9.5mm drives out there, DID I EVER SAY APPLE SHOULD ADD A TRAY DRIVE? i'm sure if they pushed matsushita (panasonic) they would make it slot loading!

I hate the fanboys that think just because apple decide it won't be added then thou shalt follow...... (thinking of the funny jesus speech on Monty Python).

I LOVE my macbook pro, hell even my Alu Powerbook looks better than most PC laptops out there but i just hate how apple are neglecting their computer division.
 
It must have gone! there was a Toshiba for £279 with BluRay, that had been advertised here on TV. My POINT is that if these can add a BluRay drive then surely apple can. My point also was that there are 9.5mm drives out there, DID I EVER SAY APPLE SHOULD ADD A TRAY DRIVE? i'm sure if they pushed matsushita (panasonic) they would make it slot loading!

I hate the fanboys that think just because apple decide it won't be added then thou shalt follow...... (thinking of the funny jesus speech on Monty Python).

I LOVE my macbook pro, hell even my Alu Powerbook looks better than most PC laptops out there but i just hate how apple are neglecting their computer division.

ohhh so now its a case of "i swear it was there a minute ago" hahahahahaha.

but seriously... do you REALLY think that a 1.83GHZ Pentium would even run that!!!! would it be able to maintain the high demanding decoding of the BD/HDDVD's?? i for one do not think that it would be remotely possible. its running vista for crying out loud even its going to struggle.

i for one hate the fact that BluRay hasnt been added into the desktop line-up, they are getting so cheap these days.. i am against that. but i can somewhat see where they are coming from with the laptop BluRray drives..

oh btw im not a fanboi.
 
but seriously... do you REALLY think that a 1.83GHZ Pentium would even run that!!!! would it be able to maintain the high demanding decoding of the BD/HDDVD's?? i for one do not think that it would be remotely possible.
Just FYI, most modern laptops don't use their CPUs to decode MPEG-2/AVC/VC-1; they use the dedicated functions of the GPUs to offload that processing. That's exactly what my Popcorn Hour does. It barely has enough processing power on that pathetic MIPS CPU to even run a torrent program, yet it doesn't break a sweat when decoding 1080p H.264 because there's a sweet Sigma ASIC that does all that heavy lifting. It can definitely be done on a laptop and it already has (i.e. ATI Avivo HD, Nvidia PureVideo HD).
 
So you have a notebook, that are generally made for .... traveling with, so if you goto a hotel room and say oooh i'll play that BR movie now.... nope! sorry :p
Where's your 60" Plasma / BR Player now? huh? huh?

Don't forget your not the only person in the world and not everyone has the same needs as you :)

Um, i dont have a notebook. And if i was traveling and staying in a Hotel room, why would BR be on my mind
 
BluRay is the next gen format, go into any HMV store and see how the range of movies has grown, so in a year or so when they are starting to really compete with DVD then we will all be stuck, so people like me who actually TRAVEL with their computers and want to watch movies in a hotel room when i'm away with work...... i will be stuck :(
 
I only buy movies on Blu Ray now. (I just can't go back to DVD after seeing Blu Ray movies.) So I really hope next MacBook Pro have support for Blu-Ray. I would love to bring few movies with me when I travel.
 
because he thinks that you might watch movies in the hotel room>>??<<

What if I am pitching to or showing a client some material for a project which involves the use of Blu-ray material and or Blu-ray authoring? And the at the studio we have almost an entirely Mac based suite. Should we not be able to rely on Apple to keep their computer line up to date so we can continue to produce content which is fit for the current trends or should we move to a Windows and Linux based workflow now since Apple don't seem to care what the Pro Industry want and need?
 
What if I am pitching to or showing a client some material for a project which involves the use of Blu-ray material and or Blu-ray authoring? And the at the studio we have almost an entirely Mac based suite. Should we not be able to rely on Apple to keep their computer line up to date so we can continue to produce content which is fit for the current trends or should we move to a Windows and Linux based workflow now since Apple don't seem to care what the Pro Industry want and need?

I agree Apple should get their act together, but my dispute was not about Apple supporting Blu ray but that i only watch it on a plasma and not on a laptop
 
What if I am pitching to or showing a client some material for a project which involves the use of Blu-ray material and or Blu-ray authoring? And the at the studio we have almost an entirely Mac based suite. Should we not be able to rely on Apple to keep their computer line up to date so we can continue to produce content which is fit for the current trends or should we move to a Windows and Linux based workflow now since Apple don't seem to care what the Pro Industry want and need?

i am pretty certain (somewhat) we have already talked about this. somewhere near page 5/7. so im not going to give my views on it again.
 
I agree Apple should get their act together, but my dispute was not about Apple supporting Blu ray but that i only watch it on a plasma and not on a laptop

I have quite a pile of Blu-ray movies at this point - got one of the Gen 1 Samsung 1000 players (since retired for a Sony 550).

I like being able to grab any DVD or BD and stick it in my travel bag for the airplane or hotel.

It's not about "laptops can't do 1080p justice", it's about being able to play any of my discs anywhere.
 
I still don't get why all the people who don't care about Blu-ray are so bothered about denying it to those who do care about it. I doubt anyone who wants Blu-ray on the mac would object to it being an optional extra to avoid those who don't want it paying for it unnecessarily.

I have Blu-ray discs. I want a mac that will play them (and I've told Apple as much). End of discussion for me really.
 
Highly doubtful.

Apple and Microsoft want the future to be HD downloads, not BluRay.

Sony has lost this war, they just don't realize it yet.

What war? I like to see the stats and sources where you are pulling such information.
 
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