The way I read the NBC article, it didn't look like Blue Toad knew they had an incident. Looks like we'll never find out now anyway since they seem to be saying they wont send notifications to those on the list but instead leave that up to the individual applications.
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Blue Toad Publishing Company Admits Stolen 'FBI' UDIDs Came From Them
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The way I read the NBC article, it didn't look like Blue Toad knew they had an incident. Looks like we'll never find out now anyway since they seem to be saying they wont send notifications to those on the list but instead leave that up to the individual applications.
Flipboard is free. The consipiracy plot thickens
(yes, I know...other apps blah blah blah)
I'm really happy to hear this.
Everybody took the original article as an opportunity to jump on the anti-government bandwagon. They're not out to get us. They're trying to keep us safe.
Everybody took the original article as an opportunity to jump on the anti-government bandwagon. They're not out to get us. They're trying to keep us safe.
I'm just going to file this under "I told you so." I'll also add that when I posted the following response to the original article I received exactly zero upvotes:
Of course it turns out that the hackers were the bad guys all along, and that it was hackers along with irresponsible iOS developers and Apple's older security policies within iOS that were the threat to people's privacy.
Of course it turns out that the hackers were the bad guys all along, and that it was hackers along with irresponsible iOS developers and Apple's older security policies within iOS that were the threat to people's privacy.
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The only problem is that a list of UDIDs doesn't help you tracking anybody. This is like having a complete list with the names of 100 million US citizens - it doesn't help with anything.
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Nothing.
That's the fundamental characteristic of a conspiracy theory. It promises you secret knowledge but it never delivers because its arguments are completely circular. If your theory isn't circular, and if you're not positing a conspiracy so vast everyone's in cahoots, then maybe it could be a real conspiracy.
I see no good reason that this data wasn't salted and hashed. BlueToad should have known better, for any legitimate use a hashed version would have been just as good, and would have made this leak a non issue. A non hashed list is only needed if distributed tracking is required, tracking across apps with different databases where the the information changes hands. So either the FBI wanted to do this, or BlueToad wanted to do this, either way this is not good.
Flipboard is made by Flipboard, Inc. We are not associated with Blue Toad in any way. You can learn more about us on our website.
Also, we do not use UDID data for our service.
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~ FlipboardCM
Flipboard Community Manager
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Also, we do not use UDID data for our service.
Thanks,
~ FlipboardCM
Flipboard Community Manager
Twitter: @FlipboardCM
email: support@flipboard.com
Good to see the FBI are using these front companies, I guess its like the US Gov telling Syria Gov to stop the violence but under some fake company give the rebels(in Iraq and Afghanistan called terrorist) communication so the war can continue.
I think the only objection to the drone program that Fox News and its viewers would have is if Obama took credit for it in his reelection campaign.
RuPAUL 2012
iCatholic Magazine, eh? I wonder do the hackers have the addresses where the hierarchy has hidden all the naughty priests?
What?! What?! I'm Irish! I'm allowed make jokes like that!
What?! What?! I'm Irish! I'm allowed make jokes like that!
Possibly. They might just have gone through their logs afterwards and found something indicating the time of the attack.
On the other hand, if you read a story about the FBI leaking UDIDs, would you immediately check your own UDID list to see if your company was the actual source of the leak? Seems a slightly strange thing to do, unless you already knew your own list might have been compromised.
Anyway, all conjecture at this point...
Nothing about Blue Toad's admission lets FBI off the hook.
If anything, Blue Toad are bragging about how many customers they have, if they really have them.
Data could come from any app that grabs UDID. Still begs the question - how did FBI get it? With a court order? What's the transparent process here? Shut-up slave, it's National Security??
I wonder if UDID is handy if you want to frame someone? Not that that would ever happen.
If anything, Blue Toad are bragging about how many customers they have, if they really have them.
Data could come from any app that grabs UDID. Still begs the question - how did FBI get it? With a court order? What's the transparent process here? Shut-up slave, it's National Security??
I wonder if UDID is handy if you want to frame someone? Not that that would ever happen.
We all know that these things happen. Every company/app builder collects userdata without permission. 99% of the times we don't even know what's collected and what will happen with our private information.
When lists like these are "discovered" it's too late already.
When lists like these are "discovered" it's too late already.
Too bad you didn't read the actual article.
They didn't look through the list, someone else did, found several references to Blue Toad within the data (more than was statistically probable without some connection to Blue Toad), and contacted the company to warn them it might be their information. They then did their own search, found that it was their data, contacted law enforcement and NBC.