The turn signals are probably going to come with this CarPlay update XD
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BMW Shipping New Cars Temporarily Without Apple CarPlay
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When we first got our 2020 X3, it had the BMW Assistant enabled. As a result, nobody would mention "BMW" in the car without waking that assistant, which seemed hell bent on having us eat at restaurants in Tennessee (We live in Wisconsin). The only way to disable the BMW assistant was to also disable Siri. Two years after buying the car, the dealership finally updated the software, allowing Siri while disabling the BMW assistant. The BMW assistant will still perk up and spew nonsense once a month or two, but that's now only a minor inconvenience.
The car routinely gets confused about who's driving, to the point where my wife keeps an Altoids can in her purse to shield her fob so the car won't think she's driving when I'm behind the wheel. Every few months, I must delete and reinstall our driver profiles to quell the incessant requests from the car to re-enter our login credentials.
Our excitement over finally having a nice car in which to enjoy our retirement quickly gave way to demonstrating to friends and family why they might want to consider any other car brand. This was our first, and will be our last, BMW. The car itself is fine, the software is a hot mess.
The car routinely gets confused about who's driving, to the point where my wife keeps an Altoids can in her purse to shield her fob so the car won't think she's driving when I'm behind the wheel. Every few months, I must delete and reinstall our driver profiles to quell the incessant requests from the car to re-enter our login credentials.
Our excitement over finally having a nice car in which to enjoy our retirement quickly gave way to demonstrating to friends and family why they might want to consider any other car brand. This was our first, and will be our last, BMW. The car itself is fine, the software is a hot mess.
My mom leased a BMW X cross over.
She hates it and regrets switching from the Lexus NS.
I tried to drive it once and I literally could not figure out how to start it. Over complicated for no reason.
The fact they tried to charge owners for CarPlay shows they think their users will pay for anything… they were wrong.
She hates it and regrets switching from the Lexus NS.
I tried to drive it once and I literally could not figure out how to start it. Over complicated for no reason.
The fact they tried to charge owners for CarPlay shows they think their users will pay for anything… they were wrong.
Isn’t it just a start button labelled start? That’s what the BMW I test drove had. Couldn’t be simpler.
My 2021 VW had a performance monitor listed in the window sticker (it is available on all other years of the body style except 2021, they went to a new version of the stereo in the 2021) it was supposed to be out in a couple months. A year later it is not available. Some are considering a class action over it. I traded the car in for a 2019 Golf R which has it so couldn't really care less. But they say 2 months there is a chance it will never show up.My wife recently purchased a new Volvo. Has the same issue. She was told an update was coming in March. She's still waiting.
Glad my VW has nav. it is not as good as a good aftermarket system like Garmin, but it works and works well enough with no internet.This article is about Apple Car Play, but it also mentioned no Android Auto either, which is what I'd be using. Quite a bummer! I hope the OTA updates come soon, and will be relatively painless to get through
Curious, did your car come with a CD player? Mine didn't and I hear many others these days don't. While I get that we're in "new times" where they want to make the console less cluttered, make way for bigger screens, etc., I still have plenty of CDs on hand. I do have Sirius XM, and use music from internet, but I do go through areas at times where I don't have internet access.
Oh, as for navigation, some of the manufacturers (e.g. Honda) have long gotten rid of navigation on their vehicles. They just given up since especially these days, everybody has a phone that can do GPS navigation
I tried, it was some odd combination of choosing D first and some other button. I don’t remember exactly but it was odd.
I have a Infiniti and it’s just push to start.
I wouldn’t buy a vehicle unless there was full CarPlay functionality from day one because I know from personal experience that some companies place a lower priority on releasing software updates for products already out the door.
Too bad our Tesla doesn't use CarPlay. Their system sucks. If you are play a audio book thru their Bluetooth and use the map at the same time, they both with still be on and can't hear both.... WTH Tesla!!
Didn't BMW also charge customer for the privilege of access to CarPlay?
Except that, if it’s a supply chain issue it makes no sense because the chip is installed
I think they replaced an unavailable chip with something else they could obtain, but haven't had the time to enable/configure in software.
It must be that the new chip is different enough from the prior chip that they have to develop and test new firmware/software.
This is why I used to buy Audis and MBs but now buy VW. The MMI or equivalent “luxury” interfaces are cumbersome. The VW has all the “extra-cost” driver assist features as standard on medium trims an above, and a functional but not cumbersome digital infotainment and digital cockpit. It’s not perfect, but at 1/2 to 1/3 the price of the same size class car from the luxury german brands, I am happier.
Glad the lease on mine isn't up for another 18 months.
This would be a dealbreaker, I use CarPlay for pretty much every journey these days.
My partner lives in a city an hour away (we both have kids from previous relationships so moving not an option) and when travelling to her I share my ETA via CarPlay, saves so much hassle.
I'm also suspecting a facelift (what BMW call LCI) for the 3 series will happen in the interim.
This would be a dealbreaker, I use CarPlay for pretty much every journey these days.
My partner lives in a city an hour away (we both have kids from previous relationships so moving not an option) and when travelling to her I share my ETA via CarPlay, saves so much hassle.
I'm also suspecting a facelift (what BMW call LCI) for the 3 series will happen in the interim.
Yup. Tune it with the knob and then pull the button out and push it in to save the station.
I'd say the E46 3 Series was the last great BMW, all subsequent platforms have been mediocre at best in my opinion.
The current 3 Series is just lifeless, fat, and has questionable material quality.
CDs disappearing, ah, that’s a thing. I was so glad my first car was the entry trim because it had a cassette deck still. There was that mid-2000s era when tape decks in cars were going out but aux in wasn’t yet a thing. Once CD burning became less common in the face of jukebox MP3 players (like the iPod), all of a sudden we were facing the tyranny of the in-car FM transmitter that never worked. Thankfully, car manufacturers by 2010 or so were adding auxiliary inputs. It seems like we may be moving to an era where car audio input is exclusively through CarPlay or Android Auto (at least on some makes, never mind the ease of connecting a Bluetooth dongle to the aux in jack of your car audio, or using a Bluetooth transceiver to send the audio from 3.5mm jacks to Bluetooth-only car radios). I occasionally use dedicated music players and physical media (usually to save battery life and battery wear and tear while traveling), and not being able to use one of those with in-car audio would be disappointing. But, the point is, if a car’s only input is CarPlay and Android Auto and you’re waiting for support for those to arrive, then that’s basically like buying a car, nay, a luxury car, without any audio inputs, the idea would be unthinkable for most people these days. (You could maybe do the FM transceiver thing, assuming the in-car entertainment software is working and controls the FM radio, but most of those would need to go Bluetooth > Bluetooth dongle > 3.5mm port > FM transceiver plugged into the car power port > the FM radio, never mind the static that results from trying to send a very weak transmission from within a Faraday cage to an antenna outside of it, the difficulty of finding an open channel in most cities, or the contortions you’d have to go through to get it all hooked up, and powered up, for that matter.)This article is about Apple Car Play, but it also mentioned no Android Auto either, which is what I'd be using. Quite a bummer! I hope the OTA updates come soon, and will be relatively painless to get through
Curious, did your car come with a CD player? Mine didn't and I hear many others these days don't. While I get that we're in "new times" where they want to make the console less cluttered, make way for bigger screens, etc., I still have plenty of CDs on hand. I do have Sirius XM, and use music from internet, but I do go through areas at times where I don't have internet access.
Oh, as for navigation, some of the manufacturers (e.g. Honda) have long gotten rid of navigation on their vehicles. They just given up since especially these days, everybody has a phone that can do GPS navigation
You do realize that BMW offers their own Nav, entertainment and phone integration? Nobody needs to jump through nonsensical loops to have their audio content and telephony available in car. It’s “decent” but their CarPlay integration is top notch.
If I were in the market for a BMW, I would not let this be a hindrance. I’m not due for a new car for a year.