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Bonjour for Windows
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iTunes has been using Rendezvous(now Bonjour) for a while, but it was completely incorporated. This will allow third party developers to create applications that use it as well. While it may not exactly mean iChat for Windows, the next version of AIM for Windows my very well be Bonjour enabled. By the way, is the Windows version of AIM compatible with iChat video and voice chat?
Brandon Sharitt said:
The current version of aim is compatible with aim in respects to a/v stuff. It has been ever sense v. 5.5 (its up to 5.9 right now) of aim has been out. But there is gona be a major re-haul of aim for windows coming out in the summer. Its still no ichat but its much better then before. There is a beta out for it currently. As of right its called Triton but that is just the code word for it. Also worthy of note don't expect ichat to ever work, without hacking at least, with msn messenger. If they did this apple would simply be sued by aol and msn might vary well not let them and sue if they did it with out permission. It's possible that they might add support for it if the drop support for aim. 😱 🙄 (edit) forgot to address one point🙂 It's posable that we might see bonjour in aim but i doubt by the next windows aim update. I certainly think it would be pretty sweet if it did. 🙂
biohazard6969
macrumors 6502a
how is this going to to work? i thought bonjour was unix based.... could this possibly mean an ichat for windows coming down the road? theres not a very big connection but you never know.
bbyrdhouse
macrumors 6502
technocoy said:
I kinda agree. I think that this is a strategy move. I wonder if a "networkable" ipod is in the works?????
LaMerVipere
macrumors 6502a
Looks like Apple is getting out of the Mac market and into the Windows market. It was bound to happen sooner or later. I can't wait for iDvd and iMovie for Windows.
mactastic
macrumors 68040
Has anyone gotten this to work yet? I just installed it, but I can't see our networked Brother 8840DN with it. That is supposed to be a Rendezvous-enabled printer, when I hook my TiBook up to the network it sees it just fine, but my XP box can't seem to see the same printer. Weird.
hulugu
macrumors 68000
Frisco said:
Now Frisco, think about it, Apple has moved a couple of key technologies QT (w/ iTunes) and Zero-Config to Windows, just so they can get out of the Mac business? Then why bother with Tiger, the ProApps, updated G5 iMacs, etc? Nope, Apple is trying to encircle Windows and become such an important part of people's daily experience that just as Apple needs Microsoft Office to remain prevalent, so will Windows need QT and Zero-Config and maybe iChat AV. QT is especially so, because it ties into iTunes and iChat AV, and suddenly to make a nice cross-platform media experience, it might be easier for developers to make QT H.264 stuff rather than use WMP.
The minute Apple stops making Macs is the minute Linux starts to look good, and I hope Apple never has to port iLife (beyond iTunes, which was a very good idea). iChat AV is the next good port, because you get to sell more iSights (using QT) and you get Windows users used to the idea that Apple is a great company. Someone who buys an iSight, iPod, Apple Cinema Display, and is using iTunes, QT, iChatAV and Zero-Config is at the very least a money-stream for Apple, and this same person is more likely to get a G5 the next time around, especially when they're already surrounded by all this Apple gear.
Jobs has been reading Sun-Tzu.
Will never happen. If they port anything, it'll be the pro applications and even then that's not likely. Apple is a hardware company. It's not going to up and adopt the x86 architecture any time soon.Frisco said:
Why do you think it's taken Microsoft ~10 years to get most of the bugs out of Windows? It's because they stretched themselves too thin trying to support every piece of hardware. That's why MS is now pushing hardware manufactures into "Designed for Windows Media" designation. It's their attempt at controlling a hardware market with very few controlling standards from the start.
When Apple ports software to Windows/x86, it's to entice Windows users into using Apple hardware. They wouldn't have ported iTunes unless it was to convince Windows users that the iPod is an option for them (and that they should buy, buy, buy).
Rendezvous (i think Bonjour is a silly name) will help those that switch with interoperatibility (sp?) issues. Hypothetical situation: auto discovery of Tiger Server SMB shares and other services on Xserves will also help businesses keep Windows workstations and upgrade to Apple hardware on the backend.
Frisco said:
To those that replied to this, he is obviously joking... Come on, that one was easy to catch.
wPod
macrumors 68000
heh. . . Rendezvous is a much better name than Bonjour!!!! i prefer 'fredom' fries to 'french' fries! ha!
but lets face it. iTunes for windows was step one. Rendezvous (er 'Bonjour') for windows is step 2 . . . .step 3, Spotlight for windows . . . step 9,756,842 world domination of apple! (step 4 is a G5 PowerBook!)
but lets face it. iTunes for windows was step one. Rendezvous (er 'Bonjour') for windows is step 2 . . . .step 3, Spotlight for windows . . . step 9,756,842 world domination of apple! (step 4 is a G5 PowerBook!)
absolut_mac
macrumors 6502a
Daveway said:
Hmmm, and you didn't even question why Apple - very cleverly I might add - named this app Bonjour?
To answer your question - so that Windows users can say 'hello' to Apple and au revoir to Bill and his bugs 😉
poundsmack
macrumors 6502
Daveway said:
Cause Microsoft didn't make their computers (edit: Windows XP) smart enough to realize that another computer is atach to it so Apple had to make it for them.
This is mainly for Mac Users so that they can have a perfect sync with their Windows PC
stcanard
macrumors 65816
For those people who are wondering why, remember this is far more then iChat.
Shared printers get advertised by Bonjour, so now that's easy.
The apache server on OSX gets advertised by Bonjour
OSXVnc
Shared folders
As has been mentioned iTunes libraries
There are lots of applications. For me the printers alone is a huge deal, as right now I'm trying to share a printer to XP an ME on my home network! Bonjuor for windows, here I come!
Shared printers get advertised by Bonjour, so now that's easy.
The apache server on OSX gets advertised by Bonjour
OSXVnc
Shared folders
As has been mentioned iTunes libraries
There are lots of applications. For me the printers alone is a huge deal, as right now I'm trying to share a printer to XP an ME on my home network! Bonjuor for windows, here I come!
Darwin said:
cool, this is where i'd want this technology. when i'm at work, there is a networked cannon printer that i just cannot connect to with my powerbook when i'm on the network. anything to make any of this cross platform networking easier would be cool.