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Bonjour for Windows
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Porchland
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technocoy said:
Yep, and it's going to be fun to watch.
It doesn't make sense for Apple to port everything to Windows unless Apple wants to be a software-and-iPod company with only a niche computer business, and that's not what Apple wants to be. I think the philsophy with iPod/iTunes/iTMS was (1) to sell a ton more iPods and (2) to entice Windows users to buy a Mac.
The first argument will apply to anything Apple's not giving away for free; if you port it to Windows, the market is bigger. But the second argument is, i think, where Apple's strategy lies.
I think iChat is the perfect application to port to Windows because it grows the iChat community and potentially sells a ton of iSight devices without giving away any real "Mac" features.
I just hope Apple keeps iLife close to home. You want iPhoto, iMovie HD, iDVD and GarageBand? Buy a Mac.
Rendezsue
I may be wrong, but I think they changed the name because...if you can believe it...someone sued Apple saying they owned the rights to that name for a similar technology (after about a year or so of Apple using it...took them a while to notice!). Bonjour makes sense...but it is stupid. At least they didn't call it something like iNetwork! I think they go a little overboard with the whole i thing.
I may be wrong, but I think they changed the name because...if you can believe it...someone sued Apple saying they owned the rights to that name for a similar technology (after about a year or so of Apple using it...took them a while to notice!). Bonjour makes sense...but it is stupid. At least they didn't call it something like iNetwork! I think they go a little overboard with the whole i thing.
I have a bit of a success story from a few days ago...
Months ago, I was trying to get my Epson Photo R300 shared between XP and 10.3.9
The printer ran on Windows, or the printer could run on Mac.
Only issue, when hooked up to the windows machine, the Mac didn't have a shared printer driver available for the Epson printer.
I somehow managed to get it to work the other way around with CUPS and IP addresses however.
However, over a month ago, I downloaded the developer edition of Rendevous for Windows, but didn't really do much with it. I should have however.
Running Tiger on my Mac, running XP on my windows machine, this past weekend, I ran the rendevous program to find printers, and there it was, able to install necessary drivers and config information for the Epson printer with the single click of a button.
Nice!
Months ago, I was trying to get my Epson Photo R300 shared between XP and 10.3.9
The printer ran on Windows, or the printer could run on Mac.
Only issue, when hooked up to the windows machine, the Mac didn't have a shared printer driver available for the Epson printer.
I somehow managed to get it to work the other way around with CUPS and IP addresses however.
However, over a month ago, I downloaded the developer edition of Rendevous for Windows, but didn't really do much with it. I should have however.
Running Tiger on my Mac, running XP on my windows machine, this past weekend, I ran the rendevous program to find printers, and there it was, able to install necessary drivers and config information for the Epson printer with the single click of a button.
Nice!
eric_n_dfw
macrumors 68000
This isn't really new
You all realize that Rendezvous for Windows has been out for a long time don't you? I've had it on my Win2000 machine for many months (maybe a year). This is just an update to it and it also has the new name (which was mandated by a settlement over Rendezvous trademark infringement).
I remember when Tivo's series 2 Home Media serice was released to allow you to play music off of your Mac or PC; the Windows download was pretty big, something like 8MB compared to about 0.5MB for the OS X. I can only presume that is because it's using Rendezvous/Bonjour and the Windows version had to install all of it while the OS X version was just a few hooks.
Note: The version I have may have been an Apple developer preview version - so maybe this is new to non-developers.
You all realize that Rendezvous for Windows has been out for a long time don't you? I've had it on my Win2000 machine for many months (maybe a year). This is just an update to it and it also has the new name (which was mandated by a settlement over Rendezvous trademark infringement).
I remember when Tivo's series 2 Home Media serice was released to allow you to play music off of your Mac or PC; the Windows download was pretty big, something like 8MB compared to about 0.5MB for the OS X. I can only presume that is because it's using Rendezvous/Bonjour and the Windows version had to install all of it while the OS X version was just a few hooks.
Note: The version I have may have been an Apple developer preview version - so maybe this is new to non-developers.
As long as OS X is still OS X with OS X features, we're ok.
Once we see Windows XP starting up with iChat AV and Mail.app and Safari as the default browser, we're screwed.
Once we see Windows XP starting up with iChat AV and Mail.app and Safari as the default browser, we're screwed.
It's the enterprise
This is likely more to facilitate many of the enterprise features in an OS X server environment. Jabber, automounted shares, and several other features work well in a Rende--err--Bonjour environment. And certainly printer sharing and other stuff is great in a small workgroup environment where full fledged DNS deployment is unnecessary.
This is likely more to facilitate many of the enterprise features in an OS X server environment. Jabber, automounted shares, and several other features work well in a Rende--err--Bonjour environment. And certainly printer sharing and other stuff is great in a small workgroup environment where full fledged DNS deployment is unnecessary.
Trowaman
macrumors 6502a
When I sign onto iChat at school, there are currently 5 people on my network (including myself) due to how they have divided the network not only by residence halls but at least 4 ways within said halls as well. I would love to talk with all 120 people on my wing now instead of just 4 other people. Go for it Apple!
"The Bonjour Setup Wizard makes setting up a printer under Windows as easy as Mac OS X (we cant make it as beautiful, unfortunately)"
HA!...
WIN XP is fugly though...
HA!...
WIN XP is fugly though...
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Gasu E. said:
thats EXACTLY what i saw when i first glanced over the headlines! i thought "Yes! somebody's nuked Microsoft HQ!" but oh well... or is it? this is a good move from Apple. another 'link' to the X86 world.
big things will happen, or so my lightning ball tells me. yea im a cheap skate, couldnt afford a crystal ball. and this ones more fun... oooo lightning at fingers.
*goes back to sleep*
joeboy_45101
macrumors 6502
I remember back in 2003 when Apple was making ready the release of iTunes for Windows. There were so many people on these forums denouncing the move that it was ridiculous. The fact is that iTunes for Windows was a brilliant move that gave a huge boost to Apple's image to the general public. Now, more people are more aware of Apple. I believe Apple could make another public image boost by possibly releasing a version of iChat for Windows. Maybe Safari and Mail would follow, but that all depends on how well Apple's hardware continues to sell. They may come to the conclusion that it is not neccessary to port any more iApps to Windows if they can get a significant number of switchers.
wPod said:
You do know that Rendezvous is derived from French?
I still like the old name better though, but as long as apples continues their market share gains I could care less about names. 🙂
SiliconAddict
macrumors 603
Daveway said:
So we can use Airport Express....so we can use iTunes streaming. Anyways.
Where the heck is QT7?!?!?!?
SPUY767
macrumors 68020
weatherproof said:
Rendezvous is not derived from french, it is french. When used in a context with two individuals it usually has a negative connotation. i.e. if someone says "Voulez vous une rendezvous avec moi?" they're essentially asking if you would like to ride the bone roller coaster.
It may sound crazy . . .
. . . but my guess is that Apple is about to roll out a movie rental service a la iTunes, but they offer a box that hooks up to the TV and networks to the home computer (either PC or Mac). They need to make sure that the device can connect seemlessly to the computer (which already has iTunes/QT7 installed).
Oh yeah, and it will help set up networks in business situations.
. . . but my guess is that Apple is about to roll out a movie rental service a la iTunes, but they offer a box that hooks up to the TV and networks to the home computer (either PC or Mac). They need to make sure that the device can connect seemlessly to the computer (which already has iTunes/QT7 installed).
Oh yeah, and it will help set up networks in business situations.
On a somewhat related note...my brother-in-law just purchased a new HP all-in-one printer with built in 802.11. I had no idea they were making printers with 802.11 cards built into the printer!
anyway, I went over to set it up for them and the manual had a bunch of Mac info and even said things like "Mac's use a very simple and user friendly version of 802.11 called Airport", etc. It seemed very pro-Mac.
Needless to say, setup of the printer was a breeze and they are now printing wireless from the two ibooks in the house.
anyway, I went over to set it up for them and the manual had a bunch of Mac info and even said things like "Mac's use a very simple and user friendly version of 802.11 called Airport", etc. It seemed very pro-Mac.
Needless to say, setup of the printer was a breeze and they are now printing wireless from the two ibooks in the house.