I really don't know why everybody, from tv to newspapers to websites to this particular site is so hung up on an Apple product being used. Boston cheated. Their prime defense seems to be that the Yankees cheat too. What brand of device they used to cheat is immaterial. Even if the Apple watch has some feature that allowed it to do things that literally no other watch/band/portable device could do, it wasn't designed with stealing baseball signals in mind. The intent and misuse is purely Boston and their coaches- and evidently mid to upper management since the first thing they did was complain about getting caught while 'others' didn't.
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Boston Red Sox Used Apple Watch to Illicitly Steal Hand Signals From Opposing Teams [Updated]
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Maybe, but it works both ways. A lot of people use the term "iPad" or "iPhone" when they mean a generic tablet or smart phone.
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How so?
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A player can try to steal if he is for instance on second base. Others, using electronic means of communication, are not allowed to do this.
Stealing signs in baseball goes back to the late 1800s! It's always been happening.
The funny thing about this story though is that MLB rules don't allow for any game wins to be overturned really, or at least it never happens, so maybe there will be a fine, maybe not. Mostly MLB will want to hush this up.
If they didn't want to hush it up, they would have done what's always been done in the past. You catch the player in the act and he's immediately thrown out of the game. It seems they deliberately chose not to do that because that would embarrass Major League Baseball.
The funny thing about this story though is that MLB rules don't allow for any game wins to be overturned really, or at least it never happens, so maybe there will be a fine, maybe not. Mostly MLB will want to hush this up.
If they didn't want to hush it up, they would have done what's always been done in the past. You catch the player in the act and he's immediately thrown out of the game. It seems they deliberately chose not to do that because that would embarrass Major League Baseball.
I read the whole article and 104 posts here and I still don't really understand how this scheme works.
So, someone watching a video feed somewhere sends a message to the guy's Apple Watch, and that guy signals to the players what pitch is coming next?
So, someone watching a video feed somewhere sends a message to the guy's Apple Watch, and that guy signals to the players what pitch is coming next?
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Welp, I should read the article before making a stupid joke about it
, this is a non-story!
Movement tracking? ...a million right handed Apple Watch users were horrified then suddenly relieved that they wear their watch on their left.
Welp, I should read the article before making a stupid joke about it
, this is a non-story!Movement tracking? ...a million right handed Apple Watch users were horrified then suddenly relieved that they wear their watch on their left.
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hit whoring headline. they didn't use the watch to steal signs. they used it to communicate what they stole using other means.
So AWs were allowed but a dumbphone from 1996 not.
There's some huge oversight or misconception on MLB part going on. (maybe the fact that the connection between iphones and AWs can go as far as the common wifi network they're on?)
Kinda like a teacher not realizing a particular calculator can also solve functions or something.
There's some huge oversight or misconception on MLB part going on. (maybe the fact that the connection between iphones and AWs can go as far as the common wifi network they're on?)
Kinda like a teacher not realizing a particular calculator can also solve functions or something.
I believe you miss the point. Baseball teams are allowed to have nine players in the game at a time, and are allowed to use certain equipment (bats, balls, gloves, etc.). Sign stealing is tolerated as long as it is done by players on the field, and communicated via body gestures or voice. In this case, the Sox utilized several clubhouse employees and two bench players, effectively increasing the "players" in the game to 13+, and illegally used electronic equipment to signal.
Very little about this story is clear. Runners on second are allowed steal signs and relay them to the batter, no technology required. How an Apple Watch would assist with this process is very unclear. The MR article confuses this issue further by suggesting that the signs are being "recorded" but I don't find any information to back this up, and aside from that, recording signs would be of no value whatsoever. The only explanation that makes any sense is if the coach with the watch is receiving information from someone outside the dugout with access to video.
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Exactly. Some teams tried to use laser pointers to position outfielders but that was disallowed too.
I'm all for humor, when it's actually funny.
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Wait, you mean they adopted new screen technology once it was available at scale, just like pretty much every company does, and then adopted a stylus, just like US Robotics, Palm, and Microsoft did?
Impressive.
Might not be MR that coined it, still clickbait none the less and MR is perpetuating it.
Sounds like it, unless there's some reason that only the Apple Watch is allowed to be worn.
Of course, if it had not been against the rules, no one would've objected to Apple being specified. The sword should cut both ways.
If you're talking about Samsung, they created the ability to make those displays huge scale, unlike almost every other phone maker except LG.
And they licensed Wacom pen technology, not just used a dumb stylus.
Son, I know how the world operates. You accept it. I'm going to change how the world works. When I do, you and your type will salute me. That's what you do.
actually, they weren't fined and stripped draft picks for videotaping other teams practices ( and there never was a suspension). They were fined for filming from a zone during a Jets game that had just been deemed a "no go" zone in a memo. Two feet to the left and it would've been legal (not that it matters. they were wrong and fined for it). That said filming is still legal in the NFL from certain areas.
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On a side note the Boston fanbase has to be the most arrogant and at the same time sensitive and insecure fan base ever, its quite the phenomenon
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5 rings, onto 6.
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"5 rings onto 6" - There's that arrogance and now the sensitivity in 5...4...3..2
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