That notebook is using an Intel-integrated graphic chip which is less powerful the current nVidia solution in the MB, MBA and 13" MBP.
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Both 13-Inch and 11-Inch MacBook Air Models Next Week?
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I dont know how plausible this is, or why Apple would put it on the MacBook Air: Could the port below the MagSafe labelled ??? be Light Peak?
I'm not sticking up for the Acer laptop, but the original question was whether somebody was using a Core i3 in an ultraportable.
This machine is using the mobile Core i7 and Intel integrated graphics.
How much better or worse this will be than the new Air will be determined on Wednesday.
While cool, I do have to say that at 11 inches I'm kinda disappointed. I just thought the iPad was supposed to be the end of net books and a much more viable solution, and sure 11 inches isn't totally a net book, but its pushing it. Maybe Wednesday will change my mind. I'm very curious as to how apples gonna market it, and the price point is deffinetly going to be interesting.
Wrong. Here is the original question:
"Are there any Windows notebooks the size of the MBA with an i3 and a dedicated graphics card? "
The referenced laptop failed to meet those critera. Even more egregious is that the article itself points this out.
There are some with i3/i5/i7 with dedicated graphics cards but almost all of them are thicker , make battery trade-offs , pricing , or other compromises that MBA generally doesn't.
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Not saying it's useless but the only reason to justify using a chip that is already EOL might be the GPU. No C2D come 2011 a y more so than what. Must be a new CPU so this MBA is outdated already. I have a C2D MBA and love it but I want an upgrade.
skunk said:Actually, I'm running a C2D iMac with 2GB RAM and it is far from useless. What high-powered apps would you be thinking of using on an 11" Air?
Not saying it's useless but the only reason to justify using a chip that is already EOL might be the GPU. No C2D come 2011 a y more so than what. Must be a new CPU so this MBA is outdated already. I have a C2D MBA and love it but I want an upgrade.
And I told you I wasn't sticking up for the Acer. Go pick a fight with somebody else.
999$ for the 11" - so same price as the normal MacBook - absolutely not!
Most recent updates has brought price increases, especially here in Europe, so I am guessing at least 1200 and 15-1600$ for the 11 and 13 inch, respectively. And that's US prices...
The built-in ssd thing makes sense in order to slim the Air. Hopefully 4GB will be a BTO or standard on the 13" - I could well imagine the 11" being born with 2GB :-(
CPU/GPU is probably along the lines of the current Mini/MB/MBP - namely 2.4GHz C2D and 320m graphics.
I hope they come with something more fancy than a SD card slot, just because the rest of the lineup has those. Esata, usb (3.0?), gigabit ethernet, fw800 - any of these would be better!
Most recent updates has brought price increases, especially here in Europe, so I am guessing at least 1200 and 15-1600$ for the 11 and 13 inch, respectively. And that's US prices...
The built-in ssd thing makes sense in order to slim the Air. Hopefully 4GB will be a BTO or standard on the 13" - I could well imagine the 11" being born with 2GB :-(
CPU/GPU is probably along the lines of the current Mini/MB/MBP - namely 2.4GHz C2D and 320m graphics.
I hope they come with something more fancy than a SD card slot, just because the rest of the lineup has those. Esata, usb (3.0?), gigabit ethernet, fw800 - any of these would be better!
Err... first time on macrumors?? There's this thing called the iPad...
Err... what?!
I hope the inbuilt SSD card starts getting built into MBPs as well. A nice 80-160 GB SSD alongside a 500GB HD would just be fantastic, especially if that meant an optical drive could fit in there too. Although I'd still rather lose the optical drive for a better CPU & GPU.
In terms of the MBA, I'm still not interested. Although I really hope that USB is a USB 3, and the mystery port is Light Peak. For the same reasons specified above.
In terms of the MBA, I'm still not interested. Although I really hope that USB is a USB 3, and the mystery port is Light Peak. For the same reasons specified above.
It was me asking the original question (to which you replied), may I reproduce it here to further your reading comprehension?
Emphasis added.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but... is there a possibility that the questionable port is Light Peak? Just a thought.
Edit - Just noticed a poster above me that mentioned it. I would definitely be in the market, especially when devices start using the technology.
Edit - Just noticed a poster above me that mentioned it. I would definitely be in the market, especially when devices start using the technology.
Nobody thinks you're sticking up for the Acer, they're trying to show you that you misunderstood the question, and the article you posted doesn't prove him incorrect in any way. Nobody is picking a fight with you either, like i said, you misunderstood the question, that's all.
EDIT: In fact, there isn't even a mention of Acer in the post you responded to, how did you ever conclude that he thought you were sticking up for Acer?
No, you just posted a link essentially saying that my preposition that there are no notebooks the size of an MBA and an ix + discrete graphics is wrong. You essentially said you had evidence that this preposition was incorrect, when in fact you did not have any evidence.
And you think that behaviour is perfectly acceptable and should not be criticised?
it is strange they have inputs on both left and right side. Macbooks are known to have connective inputs only on one side. The reason being having to explain to your grand parents (and general tards) where (for example) LAN RJ45 port should go to - its easy to say "look on the left side of the mac", rather than having to explain, "um jeez, try the left, back and right side of the notebook. i'm not sure....."
and it is easier to tidy cables if they all come from one side of the notebook rather than have wires protruding everywhere.
and it is easier to tidy cables if they all come from one side of the notebook rather than have wires protruding everywhere.
Hi there if i could place a bet on a 11.6"/12" macbook it would be this:
Matte 12" (4:3) 1280x1024 (SXGA) or 11.6" Screen 1366x768 (WSXGA).
Intel Core 2 Duo - SU9600
Intel 4500MHD
Support Max 8 GB ram
Ethernet Port
Wifi-n
2 USB Ports
Bluetooth
Storage:
1.8" 320 GB HDD or 1.8" SSD 128 GB.
10 hour battery
Max weight: 1.2 Kg / 2.65 pounds
699$ for HDD 899$ SSD
I think 899 it's a good price point.
If custom, read-only, 8GB SDXC cards eventually drop down into the $5 (or less) range there is good chance Apple would declare the DVD drive dead and drop it entirely from the whole line. Rolling out SD slots to the whole line up now sets the foundation when that day happens a couple years from now.
Once they get cheap enough, the Mac OS X copy you get from Apple will come on a read-only SD card. The huge problem with Apple trying to declare the DVD format dead is that how do they give you are read-only media that you can boot off of for installs/diagnostics/recovery/etc. They don't have a replacement. "The cloud" can't be a practical replacement either. Right now it is extremely hard to beat the cost effectiveness of the DVD read-only media.
In a two or three years, DVD drives will start to disappear from the market. Blu-ray (minimally read-only ) drives will take over the low end of the computer ODD market. Same reason you can't really by a CD-ROM only drive anymore. (DVD ROM -> BR-ROM transition is proceeding at about same pace the CDROM -> DVD ROM transition did ) At that point, Apple has to have some excuse why still not putting BR optical drives in.
USB thumb flash drives are harder to make read-only. With SD card, you only have to notch out part of the card to render it read-only.
So it is not about being "fancy". It is about serving a purpose in the user experience lifecycle.
Very true. I'm extremely curious to know what this port is. If the place this image is coming from has no idea what the port is, odds are pretty damn good that it's something new, and there are not that many technologies out there that any half-decent computer geek wouldn't recognize, or at the very least be able to figure out with a google search. Which means LightPath is an option.
According to the Photoshop ruler tool this prototype should be an 11.6" model, if not smaller...
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For an 11" class machine AMD just released the ideal processor. It is called Zacate and is part of the Bobcat based Fusion line. I realize Intel has nothing announced at the moment suitable for an Apple sub notebook thus the thought that Apple will introduce its first AMD based machine in a compact AIR.
A 11" class machine implies a very compact mother board if you are going to have room for a decent battery. Zacate provides for that due to its high integration.
About the only problem one would have with Zacate is the 1.6 GHz announced top speed. But honestly just how much can you crame in performance wise in these ultra compacts. Then again there is always the hope of unannounced faster clocked versions.
On top of Zacates other good points there is one big factor. AMD is hungery for some of Intels notebook market share. This could mean aggressive pricing for Apple as it is a great marketing opportunity for AMD.
So yeah I can see the intro model priced in the $800 dollar range. They should be able to get such a machine out the manufactures door for around $500 thus allowing for Apples thick margins.
Frankly I'm very hopeful. Apple needs a product right now that is more affordable than the Mac Book.
shanmugam said:
For an 11" class machine AMD just released the ideal processor. It is called Zacate and is part of the Bobcat based Fusion line. I realize Intel has nothing announced at the moment suitable for an Apple sub notebook thus the thought that Apple will introduce its first AMD based machine in a compact AIR.
A 11" class machine implies a very compact mother board if you are going to have room for a decent battery. Zacate provides for that due to its high integration.
About the only problem one would have with Zacate is the 1.6 GHz announced top speed. But honestly just how much can you crame in performance wise in these ultra compacts. Then again there is always the hope of unannounced faster clocked versions.
On top of Zacates other good points there is one big factor. AMD is hungery for some of Intels notebook market share. This could mean aggressive pricing for Apple as it is a great marketing opportunity for AMD.
So yeah I can see the intro model priced in the $800 dollar range. They should be able to get such a machine out the manufactures door for around $500 thus allowing for Apples thick margins.
Frankly I'm very hopeful. Apple needs a product right now that is more affordable than the Mac Book.