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Ok, i will admit its like marmite, you either love it or hate it, i hated it, it actually pissed me of and i sold it, and then the owner threw it back at me, and it was so slow it couldn't run my USB hard drive, i tried my Fire wire one ..... but oops it doesn't have that port either. so i now have a SSD state drive that dosen't work, i erased the hard drive not the data on it accidentally, so now it is non recoverable, if it had Two USB's i could get it to work. The only time i will actually look at a MacBook Air again is when it has 2 USB's

You could use a USB hub....
And what do you mean it was slow it couldn't run your external that doesn't make any sense
 
Ok, i will admit its like marmite, you either love it or hate it, i hated it, it actually pissed me of and i sold it, and then the owner threw it back at me, and it was so slow it couldn't run my USB hard drive, i tried my Fire wire one ..... but oops it doesn't have that port either. so i now have a SSD state drive that dosen't work, i erased the hard drive not the data on it accidentally, so now it is non recoverable, if it had Two USB's i could get it to work. The only time i will actually look at a MacBook Air again is when it has 2 USB's

Get a USB hub to get it working
 
If 13" gets 1440x900 on a general basis, I'd consider throwing 15" out the windows.

I've been wanting a bit higher pixel density on 13", I was thinking about going for 15" HR next time because of this.
 
less than $999 not going to happen, do not keep the hopes high folks.

lately Apple even raised the mini to $699 from $599.

deal breaker is intel CPUs which are costing a lot!

are we ready for AMD? or AMD ready for mobile? both looks NO!

there is a slim chance that Apple Designs and AMD Manufacture, is it possible?

Well if this has a core 2 duo, and a 16/32/64gb ssd, for bothe the 13inch and 11inch than the 11inch could be less that 999
 
Are there any Windows notebooks the size of the MBA with an i3 and a dedicated graphics card? I am seriously curious.
Going to the i3 means a dedicated graphic card or Intel-integrated graphics, ie, less graphic power then the current nVidia solution.
Thus, is it possible to put that into a box the size of a MBA? Has anybody done it yet?

Well the m11x has, but that is extra thick! Opposed to super thin,
 
Mystery port

Could it be that the mystery port could in fact be a SIM tray for data? That would make sense.
 
Ok, it seems to be a good time to go stealth mode and stop reading spoilers ;)
See you on next wednesday
 
After reading this thread, i have an unreal idea for the perfect macbook pro 13".


1)The SSD/Ram chip style hard drive for the main drive (say 128 or 160 gigs) to have your OS and programs installed on so it's super fast.

2) A 320-500 gig regular hard drive for your itunes/iphoto/imovie/downloads, etc... AND an internal time capsule backup. So you can backup your built in SSD main drive to your hard drive, so you could always have a redundant backup incase of failure (could use an external drive and your internal HD).

3)Take out the CD drive since no one uses it anyways, and make a huge increase in battery size and take the battery life to 15-20 hours.
 
Mac mini only costed 600

And 999 and 900 are not that big of difference

An MBA for $899 would be a great achievement and would sell well among people who already love Apple. We have not competed in a full OS netbook and when we do, it won't be in the MBA form factor.

The miniaturization to make the MBA that thin is too expensive to have a competitively priced netbook, but I will take an $899 MBA for now.

With the recession and many computer makers cutting prices, it still only seems realistic for Apple to go only as low as $899 or $999 for a small screen, minimally set up MBA.
 
Are there any Windows notebooks the size of the MBA with an i3 and a dedicated graphics card? I am seriously curious.
Going to the i3 means a dedicated graphic card or Intel-integrated graphics, ie, less graphic power then the current nVidia solution.
Thus, is it possible to put that into a box the size of a MBA? Has anybody done it yet?

If willing to add about an inch to the screen size (14" ) then yes. Another member of the errantly referenced TimelineX series:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Acer-Aspire-4820TG-Timeline-X-Notebook.30281.0.html

Acer did though some models out there that are slightly bigger and/or run much hotter ( and consume more power).

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/acer-aspire-timeline-x-laptops-arrive-stateside-sans-ulv-

The problem for those who keep causally tossing out "well just put a discrete chip i there too" is twofold. First, a discrete graphics solution is going to add another 25-35W to the system. For system which are small in volume ( very thin and smaller sized screen ) it is going to be hard to disappate that much addiitional wattage.

Second major problem is size. Discrete graphics also means separate VRAM. You'll need to find extra board space so both the "redundant" GPU and RAM. Sure a iX processor is going to get matched to a slightly smaller I/O "Southbridge" support chip. However, that is only a small percentage shrink over the old Nvidia solution. It doesn't open up lots more board space. You can try to go vertical by stacking the discrete subsystem on a separate logic board that you layer on top but with clearance for cooling and stacking you are going significant height. There is no large block of unused space inside of the MBP 13" let alone the MBA 13" .

All the designers who try to chase after the "world thinnest, lightest" run into the combination of these two problems. So far the industry answer is give up on those two criteria to put discrete graphics in.
 
I was hoping the 11" was going to have that 1440X900 display.. but oh well :p doesn't really matter I don't plan on getting a laptop, i'll stick with my imac :]
 
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For an 11" class machine AMD just released the ideal processor. It is called Zacate and is part of the Bobcat based Fusion line. I realize Intel has nothing announced at the moment suitable for an Apple sub notebook thus the thought that Apple will introduce its first AMD based machine in a compact AIR.

A 11" class machine implies a very compact mother board if you are going to have room for a decent battery. Zacate provides for that due to its high integration.

About the only problem one would have with Zacate is the 1.6 GHz announced top speed. But honestly just how much can you crame in performance wise in these ultra compacts. Then again there is always the hope of unannounced faster clocked versions.

On top of Zacates other good points there is one big factor. AMD is hungery for some of Intels notebook market share. This could mean aggressive pricing for Apple as it is a great marketing opportunity for AMD.

So yeah I can see the intro model priced in the $800 dollar range. They should be able to get such a machine out the manufactures door for around $500 thus allowing for Apples thick margins.

Frankly I'm very hopeful. Apple needs a product right now that is more affordable than the Mac Book.

let us hope there is something for AMD. Apple is the only big manufacturer left out from AMD CPUs, with some form AMD CPU in Apple line up competition between AMD and Intel grows.

But ideally AMD's desktop CPUs much better than Mobile CPUs

There is a chance for Athlon/ Phenom X4/X6 to go into iMac line up, but iMac is selling as it is why change it so that is not going to happen either.
 
Well if this has a core 2 duo, and a 16/32/64gb ssd, for bothe the 13inch and 11inch than the 11inch could be less that 999

Core 2 Duo Low Voltage and Ultra Low Voltage costs any where between $200 to $300 - they are similar priced Core i3/i5/i7 UM or LM CPUs.

unless you are talking about standard voltage CPUs (which are used in current macbook which is also selling for $999)

http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...-4F94-8507-96F77528ADDB/Sept_26_1ku_Price.pdf
 

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stop dreaming of 999, this aint compaq

I wouldn't pay $499 for a compaq LMAO. I'm suggesting a min. of $999, but we all know darn well it will (might) be new tech so lets get ready to give up an arm. I've got my machete ready. :D
 
After reading this thread, i have an unreal idea for the perfect macbook pro 13".

I'm pretty sure that more folks will want the same CPU/GPU choices of the MBP 15" moved down to the 13" than in keeping the gap in those and adding multiple storage drives in.

You can already add in second drive with custom brackets and gizmos anyway for the "pimp my ride" crowd. For example: http://www.mcetech.com/optibay/



3)Take out the CD drive since no one uses it anyways, and make a huge increase in battery size and take the battery life to 15-20 hours.

The SSD drive would likely go into part of this vacated space. It all couldn't be used for battery.
 
Hi there if i could place a bet on a 11.6"/12" macbook it would be this:

Matte 12" (4:3) 1280x1024 (SXGA) or 11.6" Screen 1366x768 (WSXGA).
Intel Core 2 Duo - SU9600
Intel 4500MHD
Support Max 8 GB ram
Ethernet Port
Wifi-n
2 USB Ports
Bluetooth

Storage:
1.8" 320 GB HDD or 1.8" SSD 128 GB.

10 hour battery
Max weight: 1.2 Kg / 2.65 pounds

699$ for HDD 899$ SSD

I think 899 it's a good price point.

SU9600 CPU is $289, it is not possible under $699 machine.
 
1440x900 on a 13"-in. screen? That's what the 17-in iMac G5 came with six years ago! I thought it was unusually dense at the time. I've learned. But still, it makes me wonder: if this is true, will the Air come with a free microscope to enable people to read the screen?

Or, you know, DPI scaling already. :)
 
I hope the inbuilt SSD card starts getting built into MBPs as well. A nice 80-160 GB SSD alongside a 500GB HD would just be fantastic...

ding! ding! ding! I think that the SSD card is definitely headed for the rest of the lineup. The MBA introduced the unibody construction, and the "unremoveable" battery. Both these features made their way to the rest of the lineup. The SSD card may, as well. Thoughts:

Apple's current SSD offerings perform poorly versus 3rd party options. Are these new cards going to be better? Will the controller and/or OS X make TRIM unnecessary?

The MBP has been able to accommadate 12 mm HDs, yet only ever ships with 9.5 mm drives. Would the card be able to fit on top of a standard hard drive in a traditional MBP?

The Seagate hybrid drive—the Momentus XT—has got great reviews, albeit with some serious caveats. Yet people love the idea of a hybrid drive. Huge sizes with *some* of the benefits of an SSD, at a reasonable price. So why is there no competition for the XT? The market is dying for more hybrid options. Especially ones with more than 4 GB of read-only SSD

Maybe this SSD card is Apple's attempt to fill this market—even if only as a BTO for Apple branded portables :eek:
 
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Micro DisplayPort?! Do not want. Too many "standards"!! Stick with Mini DisplayPort, Apple!
Of course, these are just rumours...
 
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Skika said:
Oh i noticed on the picture it says "micro display port". Is that new?

Saw that too. Based on the "MacSafe" labelling on the right, I'd say it's a mistake and means Mini DP instead. I compared it to my current model 13" MBP and the Mini DP & USB sizes on it vs the leak seem to line up.

In any case, if Apple stick a 1440x900 display in the MBP 13", that would be awesome! If only I had the cash for it... Grrr!
 
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