Bought a 6s Plus today instead.

[scotttnz]

When the iPhone 7 was announced I got all hyped, and was definitely going to get a 7+, but had to wait a couple of weeks until I'm out of contract. Now that I have had a few weeks to think about it rationally, and having spent some time playing with the 7 and 7+ I'm really struggling to justify the NZ$1229 to myself. (after new contract subsidy, 128GB is NZ$1629 without it)
If my daughter didn't need a new phone I think I would just keep my 6 for another year, but now I'm not sure what I will buy if I hand mine down to her. Or maybe I should just get her an SE?

 

[areyes163]

My favorite though is how people can make a decision based for everyone like that. Just because you think it's not worth the upgrade doesn't mean someone else does. And same goes the opposite. Everyone's situation is different.

 

[caelius]

Oh, I'm sorry, is this the Apple kiss a** or bust forum? Must have missed that in the forum rules.

You must live a very sad life if you've got nothing else to do with your time...

 

[pixel_junkie]

You must live a very sad life if you've got nothing else to do with your time...

)) yup, tragic. Why don't you bold/underline the stuff in your signature so people can see it better

 

[mrex]

- Not much difference between A9 and A10: seriously? 40% improvement over A9 is not much difference?

And how does it affect the real time usage? What is the real difference?

when it comes to gaming, no RAM amount is enough.

Im sorry but im going to bring you back to the ground. No developer will develope a game just for iphone 7+. Benchmarks and ram wont affect the gaming between 6S+ and 7+.

-Fake bokeh: for those who don't like to carry DSLR with lens everywhere they go, this fake bokeh is not an alternate solution. most of the time, people leave their DSLR at home and can't capture a best moment.

Thats true but i still quess people will use somekind of software for their photos than letting the os cam software to decide. Sure there are lots of photos str8 from the phone, but usually those are photos that arent interesting at all and you wont check them later again.

It is good to have a good cam in a phone, dont get me wrong, but... i rather carry my dslr and lenses with me, shooting raws etc. Photos taken with phones are mostly fine... when watching them on the screen of the phone, but thats all.

having a picture is better than no picture at all. you might ask why not photoshop to create this bokeh but many people don't have time for photoshop. they want pictures that are good enough out of the box.

That is the point. Good enough and mostly not interesting at all for the second turn... and good for phones, bad for the printing. The world is more or less "shoot this and that" rather take a quality photos. I still take my dslr when i go to take photos, not going to do it with my iphone. For me it isnt 'better to have a photo than no photo at all'. Crap is crap.

)) yup, tragic. Why don't you bold/underline the stuff in your signature so people can see it better

tapatalk is good because it doesnt show signatures on MR.

 

[Phone Junky]

And 6S was to the 6? Get real here now, we haven't had a game changer in a while. The fact is mobile phones have gotten so advance that it has become difficult to come up with your so called 'game changer' and that doesn't only apply to Apple. Every upgrade is worth it. It is definitely better than the last. It is up to the consumer if the upgrades is enough to upgrade from the existing device he/she owns. To say the 7 is not worth the upgrade from a 6, who are you to say that? If my pocket allows it and current plan makes it more reasonable to upgrade yearly why the f**k not? If you choose to keep or upgrade to the 6s to save money good for you. Don't try to justify your decision and make yourself feel the 7 is not that much of an upgrade. It's pretty laughable really. Enjoy your 6s and don't try to convince yourself it is better than the 7. The technical specs prove otherwise. Your upgrading to yesterday's phone for crying out loud. Yes the 6s was great and I loved it last year, but the 7 is now. I doubt the 8 will be a game changer either but you know what? I'll be upgrading to it too . What are you guys posting next year that the 8 is not much of an upgrade from the 7? LOL let's get real now.

Apple loves you...

 

[MrBukey]

A decision like this is very subjective.... The OP was genuinely trying to help, and other people have been too.

Ultimately though, the "right choice" will be different for everyone, and ultimately for most the "right choice" is simply what they want to do/can afford, rather than their being a right or wrong choice....

No-one likes to be wrong, especially where spending as much money as we do on phones... So most people will just argue the corner for what they've decided to do, and try and find reasons against what they didn't decide to do -- ultimately backing up their own actions to reason with themselves.

Both phones are awesome, and it's easy to argue for plumping for either the 6S or the 7 - buying either over the other has positives, and buying either over the other has trade-offs....

 

[rigo06]

what a moronic decision.... I been with att for a month, initially bought the 6s plus bcs the 7 was not announced yet. As soon, as it was announced, i returned my 6s plus and i even paid the 40 or whatever restocking feeeee

 

[newellj]

To me it comes back to the value decision, which you can slice different ways. Personally, I don't think a mere $100 discount is enough to compensate for buying a mobil tech device that's already a year old.

 

[lordofthereef]

what a moronic decision.... I been with att for a month, initially bought the 6s plus bcs the 7 was not announced yet. As soon, as it was announced, i returned my 6s plus and i even paid the 40 or whatever restocking feeeee

I feel like this is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black.

You call a person a moron for deciding on a 6s over a 7, yet you bought a 6s a month before the 7 was announced and so you returned it and paid a restock fee. Did you have no idea the 7 was coming?

Why people come to these forums to bash others is constantly beyond my comprehension. Maybe I am a moron too...
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To me it comes back to the value decision, which you can slice different ways. Personally, I don't think a mere $100 discount is enough to compensate for buying a mobil tech device that's already a year old.

The OP seems to be in a different situation. Based on the way he outlined this purchase it seems he has a different tariff than we do (and I am guessing not in the states). It sounds like there is much more than $100 savings.

I got the 6s Plus 128gb for less a month , with 6 times the amount of data allowance and for half the upfront cost. Oh and in 12 months I can upgrade with no penalty for the iPhone 7s/8 next year.

 

[scottish]

To me it comes back to the value decision, which you can slice different ways. Personally, I don't think a mere $100 discount is enough to compensate for buying a mobil tech device that's already a year old.

But the OP is saving over $900 by going for the 6s.
[doublepost=1474904964][/doublepost]

The OP seems to be in a different situation. Based on the way he outlined this purchase it seems he has a different tariff than we do (and I am guessing not in the states). It sounds like there is much more than $100 savings.

Yes, OP is in the UK.

Might be that difference where you live but for me the 7+ was £100 upfront and £58 a month for unlimited min/texts and 5gb data. Ive got the 6s plus for £50, unlimited mins/texts, 30gb data and its costing me £30 a month.

Thats £722 difference over the contract when you factor in the line rental and upfront cost. A BIG cost difference.

 

[rigo06]

I feel like this is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black.

You call a person a moron for deciding on a 6s over a 7, yet you bought a 6s a month before the 7 was announced and so you returned it and paid a restock fee. Did you have no idea the 7 was coming?

Why people come to these forums to bash others is constantly beyond my comprehension. Maybe I am a moron too...
[doublepost=1474904696][/doublepost]
The OP seems to be in a different situation. Based on the way he outlined this purchase it seems he has a different tariff than we do (and I am guessing not in the states). It sounds like there is much more than $100 savings.

Yes you are.. bcs i just had switch from tmobile to att. Soooooooooo i neeeeeded a phone.. and i was not going to use crap android for 4 weeks. I hope you are at peace with my explanation. 40 dollars rental fee for using a 6s+ for 3 weeks is not badddd at all

 

[QueenTyrone]

Good for you OP, the 6s+ is still a great phone. People on here just like to moan and groan if you don't fit in with the herd. The 6s+ easily keeps up and even outsped the 7+ in a few categories. You'll only see a difference in intensive tasks. Plus, the first few batches of 7/7+ have been gawd awful in quality. The last batch that just got released has waterproofing issues my friend just got his 7+ and was touching the screen and you could hear air coming out of the screen seal

 

[rulymammoth]

Good for you OP, the 6s+ is still a great phone. People on here just like to moan and groan if you don't fit in with the herd. The 6s+ easily keeps up and even outsped the 7+ in a few categories. You'll only see a difference in intensive tasks. Plus, the first few batches of 7/7+ have been gawd awful in quality. The last batch that just got released has waterproofing issues my friend just got his 7+ and was touching the screen and you could hear air coming out of the screen seal

The last generation is definitely still a fine phone, but the new phone is easily way, way faster in daily operation. Opening apps is noticeably quicker on the new phone as is operating the phone in general. I never thought I'd care about that, but it's actually a nice surprise.

 

[QueenTyrone]

The last generation is definitely still a fine phone, but the new phone is easily way, way faster in daily operation. Opening apps is noticeably quicker on the new phone as is operating the phone in general. I never thought I'd care about that, but it's actually a nice surprise.

All the 7+ I played with including friends opened at the same rate as my 6s+, I saw literally no difference, maybe a .3 second difference but that's nothing really.

 

[jamesrick80]

You did the right thing...just tell people it's a iPhone 7 plus...no one will know the difference

 

[jamesrick80]

one more item to your list: bigger taptic engine with System Haptics. UI elements in iOS will now also provide tactile haptic feedback when you activate them, beside home button. for example, sliding down notification feels like sliding down a door with weight. rotating time clock feels like spinning a wheel with weight.

System Haptics is not available for iphone 6s.
[doublepost=1474848897][/doublepost]if you want to upgrade for different design appearance, the 7 is same old. but if you care about what is under the hood, the 7 is a worthy upgrade.

System haptics sound like battery drainers...unnecessary

 

[lordofthereef]

Yes you are.. bcs i just had switch from tmobile to att. Soooooooooo i neeeeeded a phone.. and i was not going to use crap android for 4 weeks. I hope you are at peace with my explanation. 40 dollars rental fee for using a 6s+ for 3 weeks is not badddd at all

What's with the hostility? I wasn't looking for peace. I was just saying it's a little arrogant of you to call someone a moron for finding value in saving money. As he said in his first post he saved way more than $100 difference the phone MSRP as in additional smart phone plan value and savings.

Someone else pointed out that he's saving $900 over the life of the plan (current conversion is actually just over $930). Working with those numbers it's like being given an iPhone 6 Plus and being paid another $180 on top. Even half of that seems like a lovely value and a rather un-moronic choice to me.

It sounds to me like you are the one that needs to find peace with others decisions here as you are the one calling people names and getting the Most heated.

Have a wonderful day. I mean it. You could use some good vibes.
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The last generation is definitely still a fine phone, but the new phone is easily way, way faster in daily operation. Opening apps is noticeably quicker on the new phone as is operating the phone in general. I never thought I'd care about that, but it's actually a nice surprise.

I'm absolutely not going to argue with you as I am not you and therefore don't know your experience. But, in watching video comparisons and doing my own comparisons (against my wife's phone) I see absolutely no perceptible loading time differences. Perhaps that will change as the years and months go on. And I have to say this was a huge surprise. I thought I would be easily able to see a difference in load times particularly when, on paper, the new processor outclassed the old one by 40%. This leads me to believe the bottleneck isn't actually the processor. But that may be a premature analysis.

If I were to upgrade today the water proofing, the speakers (yeah I was floored by how much better those were), and the cheaper storage options would be my personal bullet points.

 

[rkuo]

Someone else pointed out that he's saving $900 over the life of the plan (current conversion is actually just over $930). Working with those numbers it's like being given an iPhone 6 Plus and being paid another $180 on top. Even half of that seems like a lovely value and a rather un-moronic choice to me.

Someone link to the plan deal he got then. Maybe I don't understand how phone contracts work in the UK, but nobody here in the US is going to give you a magical 900 discount on a phone + phone plan just because you got a 6S instead of a 7.

 

[lordofthereef]

Someone link to the plan deal he got then. Maybe I don't understand how phone contracts work in the UK, but nobody here in the US is going to give you a magical 900 discount on a phone + phone plan just because you got a 6S instead of a 7.

In the US it's actually (almost) the opposite. You can get a free 7 by trading in a 6 or 6s. My point was, nearly all of this information was given in the OP. No reason to shoot from the hip and call people morons.

Maybe he will link you to the deal plan. I'm inclined to believe him. People flat out told me I didn't know what I was talking about when early news of "free iPhone 7" was coming out too. It's all about competition and getting people into your network. And also sometimes moving old stock. I just "magically" got a $500 discount on a gen 1 Apple Watch st Best Buy too; they're simply moving old stock. It was pretty sweet.

 

[mrex]

free for now but for what price?

 

[rkuo]

In the US it's actually (almost) the opposite. You can get a free 7 by trading in a 6 or 6s. My point was, nearly all of this information was given in the OP. No reason to shoot from the hip and call people morons.

Maybe he will link you to the deal plan. I'm inclined to believe him. People flat out told me I didn't know what I was talking about when early news of "free iPhone 7" was coming out too. It's all about competition and getting people into your network. And also sometimes moving old stock. I just "magically" got a $500 discount on a gen 1 Apple Watch st Best Buy too; they're simply moving old stock. It was pretty sweet.

I took advantage of the Verizon trade-in deal and it was awesome. But it also makes some sort of sense. Verizon eats a couple of hundred dollars in trade-in value to lock me in for 24 months.

930 dollars is completely different. I wouldn't be surprised if the OP was leaving something out.

 

[lordofthereef]

I took advantage of the Verizon trade-in deal and it was awesome. But it also makes some sort of sense. Verizon eats a couple of hundred dollars in trade-in value to lock me in for 24 months.

930 dollars is completely different. I wouldn't be surprised if the OP was leaving something out.

These companies are selling many phones that are traded in for much less than they are worth to a third party. They aren't piece by piece getting the most money they can out of them. They'll sell a small pallet of traded in phones and maybe use some of them as refurbs. The current value of a 16gb 6 is about $200 and they're getting less than that. All Verizon (and the other carriers) have done here isnfind a way to get two year contracts and it actually do two year contracts.

The value he calculated was also based on additional services offered. Im with T-Mobile and they just offered all four of my lines unlimitted data until February 2019. If I change my plan to reflect that it would be an additional $30 a month. If I stay with them for the next two years that's a $720 value. For no reason other than being their customer. Now, this wasn't something they offered me with the stipulation I upgrade my phone. But it is a move in order to keep me a happy customer.

Different carriers do different promos all the time. This could have been as simple as "double your data for no additional monthly cost with the purchase of a 6s". If you're actually using the extra benefits it's like money in the bank.

But anyway you are skeptical and that's fine. In going to move on now

 

[normanfox]

And how does it affect the real time usage? What is the real difference?

now it doesn't but future apps are more demanding.

Im sorry but im going to bring you back to the ground. No developer will develope a game just for iphone 7+. Benchmarks and ram wont affect the gaming between 6S+ and 7+.

yes, developers will not develop game just for iphone 7 + NOW. but future games will. games one year from now will be more demanding, just like they always have in the last 10 years. I don't pay $800 for a phone just for the current moment. I plan to use it for at least 2 years, and I want it to perform and handle any apps 2 years later.

Remember iphone 6 with ios 8 two years ago? it was fast and smooth when it was released but one year later, it was laggy with ios 9.

another example is ipad air 2 which was released 2 years ago with 3GB of RAM. it can still perform well today even though it has no hardware updates for two years.

that is the point. Good enough and mostly not interesting at all for the second turn... and good for phones, bad for the printing. The world is more or less "shoot this and that" rather take a quality photos. I still take my dslr when i go to take photos, not going to do it with my iphone. For me it isnt 'better to have a photo than no photo at all'. Crap is crap.

again, not everyone carries a heavy DSLR daily.
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System haptics sound like battery drainers...unnecessary

yes what? System haptics will be in iphone 8, 9 , and 10, which you will upgrade to eventually. so your point is? stay with iphone 6s forever?

iphone 7 plus can last 1 more hour than iphone 6s plus. so battery usage is not impacted.
[doublepost=1474933888][/doublepost]

You did the right thing...just tell people it's a iPhone 7 plus...no one will know the difference

yeah, you tell people that when you sell your iphone 6s next year. then they call you a scammer.
[doublepost=1474934074][/doublepost]

None of that is important, because it still looks the same. :/

so you rather have appearance than substance? you rather have a computer with a nice-looking case even though it runs on old Pentium II with 2 GB of RAM?
edit: I got your sarcasm.
[doublepost=1474934517][/doublepost]

Every time I see an Android troll in this forum..

btw i used to be just like some of these Android trolls until I realized iPhone was the better fit for me once I stopped caring about TINKERING with the phone everyday. Check out my post history from 2010

we welcome you with open arm. for other android/samsung fan, we will always be here and welcome you when you are ready to join iphone club.

 

[Ronnoco]

best you can do? it only been said about 1000 times. zero originality anymore, just like Apple

Lol, exploding phones, can't bring them on a plane? I can just imagine what the Samsung fanboys here (again, don't know why they aren't on a Samsung forum) would be posting if that were Apple instead of the fanboys Samsung. They'd NEVER let it go.