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I'm going to guess any wireless Apple earbuds won't be less than $199.

I'm a regular listener to ATP but must've missed this. Surprised at Marcos naivety, he isn't particularly one for shilling on Apples behalf.

No chance the Airpods are being sold for $100 thats only a slight price increase on the current wired EarPods. As you say $199 at least.
 
Fair enough Foggydog but this doesn't feel like a step forward but rather a cheap way to make money. There is no need to remove the port, they aren't using the space for anything (and the phones have gotten skinny enough - if it is for a bigger battery, increase the width by a few mm). But man, Apple sure does benefit by a surge of people buying adaptors, lightening headphones and all the licensing fees they will get.

Glad you have it all figured out.

Never mind Apple's iPhone sales have fallen three quarters in a row after barely surpassing last year's sales, and they are losing iPhone market share worldwide, despite a global uptick in smartphone sales. And Apple is releasing only a conservative upgrade with few must have features. I'm sure that for all the customers who don't buy the new iPhone because it doesn't have a headphone jack, those adapters and headphones and license fees will make up for them and return them to profitability ... Of course the people most likely to need the adapters are the ones who probably won't buy it, so they're probably not going to make as much money either.

Too bad Apple doesn't have an entire accounting department or CEO who who understands this -- oh wait, they do. Not the most logical move if greed were their only motive.
 
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:( I don't really want wireless headphones and ear-buds. Even if they sound as good as even cheap-wired ones (which most don't), it's another battery thing to worry about, and then there are the potential health concerns. I suppose there are a few uses (yes, wires do get in the way) but then there's the $119 price tag. (I sure hope Apple isn't moving in this direction...)

Are your feelings based on existing battery technology? Don't forget that technology evolves. Sound will improve, batteries will improve. If we never explored the possibilities, pushed the boundaries, in real-world settings, how would tech ever evolve? So, this is a good thing for tech and your music.
 
don't engage, don't engage, don't engage...


Right, I'm sure the first tear downs will show a big empty air gap where the headphone jack used to be. Maybe they'll laser etch Mickey Mouse giving you the finger inside that part of the housing...

*damn*


Wow. Is that level of aggression really necessary? I'm sure they will put something in that space. But, as I have said, it isn't necessary. They could make the phone a tiny bit bigger.

That being said, if they want to dedicate that space to me, they certainly can do it. Mind you, the copyright to use Mickey will probably wash the money they make on new accessories...

Mac 128, I'm entitled to my opinion and that is all it is. How I feel. Maybe I will be wowed on Wednesday and you can get in line to mock me. But I'd let Analog Kid go first. He'll be coming in hot. ;)
 
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No doubt! If true, this is one of the most stupid decisions Apple has made.
How would you rank it compared to the switch to USB ports only, on the original iMac? They got rid of all standard ports, and switched to an upcoming standard that few others had released any peripherals for. There was considerable skepticism in the industry (as in, "Apple is nuts, this will never work!"). Fast forward a bunch of years and everything is USB now, and Apple's iMac was the first to take that dive into the deep end. (This is the real comparison, not the floppies or CD drives other keep bring up.) Given their track record, I'm willing to give Apple the benefit of the doubt, and listen to their explanation of why they think what they've done is a better way to go.

By the way, anyone notice that at 0:28 they go out of a way to show a guy wearing their stereo earphones while driving? I think any police officer who spotted this, or pulled him over for some other reason, would take a pretty dim view of it.
 
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That sure what the purpose was for zooming in on the woman's ass. :rolleyes:

Pretty terrible ad using sex imagery to sell a product. The product really should stand on its own. I found the ad very distasteful and weak. And the view of the driver having his ears covered — listening to music while driving? — to be irresponsible. But then I did see the "hear the world" scene suggesting that the Headphone product passes audio through from the outside world; that just wasn't communicated very effectively.
 
My point is, small things like these do tend to find a way to disappear, especially the way headphones tend to get used. A cheap pair of earbuds shoved in a pocket are probably gonna be easier to keep track of better than two individual buds. While I'd love a pair of buds like this, I'm not sure even I would be able to keep track of them. Having a way to link them would actually make me much happier. Having a magnet to join them together would also be great, because then they become a slightly bigger single thing to keep track of.
Fair enough, but what I like about these is that if I'm going to go wireless, I want to go all the way. I don't want a wire under my shirt to my pocket, and I don't want a wire behind my neck.

I am someone who loses sunglasses, but usually because I leave them on a restaurant table when it's light as I walk in and dark as I walk out. Still, I'd take a chance on these if the sound quality was as good as my bluetooth over-the-ears.

Wasn't it B&O that used magnets to snap them together?
 
Are your feelings based on existing battery technology? Don't forget that technology evolves. Sound will improve, batteries will improve. If we never explored the possibilities, pushed the boundaries, in real-world settings, how would tech ever evolve? So, this is a good thing for tech and your music.
Sadly, batteries never seem to evolve as fast as the electronics they power. They're getting better, but not as fast as we want. But I am quite excited to see what Apple has to offer next Wednesday.
 
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How would you rank it compared to the switch to USB ports only, on the original iMac? They got rid of all standard ports, and switched to an upcoming standard that few others had released any peripherals for. There was considerable skepticism in the industry (as in, "Apple is nuts,Mathis will never work!"). Fast forward a bunch of years and everything is USB now. (This is the real comparison, not the floppies or CD drives other keep bring up.) Given their track record, I'm willing to give Apple the benefit of the doubt, and listen to their explanation of why they think what they've done is a better way to go.

USB existed on Windows PCs for years before Apple made the switch on the Mac. USB would not have become the de facto standard for computers for several more years had Apple not made that bold move. But hard to compare this against their push of the Lightning port on their own devices. What is the advantage of Lightning over microUSB or USB-C other than lock-in? Is there a power-saving advantage? Performance advantage? Flexibility advantage? Quality control advantage? One has to wonder.

By the way, anyone notice that at 0:28 they go out of a way to show a guy wearing their stereo earphones while driving? I think any police officer who spotted this, or pulled him over for some other reason, would take a pretty dim view of it.

Yup, rather irresponsible. No sale for me, based on this alone.
 
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Oh my. Although the discontinuation of wired listening devices is commendable, has the world of technology really sank to the depth of this being the pinnacle of progress and achievement; reviewed, assessed and commented on with such animation and yet at its heart just a minor change to how one listens to music.

I fear the technological singularity will elude us in this millenium.
 
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Let's see... so that's 4 recharges a day to listen non-stop, or 4 days at 6 hours.

not bad
 
Wow. Is that level of aggression really necessary? I'm sure they will put something in that space. But, as I have said, it isn't necessary. They could make the phone a tiny bit bigger.

That being said, if they want to dedicate that space to me, they certainly can do it. Mind you, the copyright to use Mickey will probably wash the money they make on new accessories...

Mac 128, I'm entitled to my opinion and that is all it is. How I feel. Maybe I will be wowed on Wednesday and you can get in line to mock me. But I'd let Analog Kid go first. He'll be coming in hot. ;)
I tried to temper the aggression with a little bit of humor, but it was really hard not to mock the unbelievably cynical statement that Apple is removing the port and not using the space for anything... Glad to see you don't seem to have taken serious offense. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go start drafting some real zingers for Wednesday...
 
Bluetooth kills sperm and you guys still want to use these things.

https://www.rfsafe.com/new-studies-...rm-cells-even-causes-erectile-dysfunction-ed/
You know, the article you link (regardless of its veracity) discusses erectile dysfunction as well as killing sperm; I would have thought you'd be more worried about the former, which takes away fun, than the latter, which would just be electronic birth control. But... you're all worried about Bluetooth... which is simply 2.4GHz radio traffic... just like WiFi. Aren't you worried about WiFi too? You're pretty much continuously bathed in WiFi if you're anywhere populated. When getting worked up about a "new" risk, it's always best to compare it to the existing risks you already cheerfully accept.
 
USB existed on Windows PCs for years before Apple made the switch on the Mac. USB would not have become the de facto standard for computers for several more years had Apple not made that bold move. But hard to compare this against their push of the Lightning port on their own devices. What is the advantage of Lightning over microUSB or USB-C other than lock-in? Is there a power-saving advantage? Performance advantage? Flexibility advantage? Quality control advantage? One has to wonder.

When Apple switched to Lightning it was because there was nothing else in the marketplace that did what they needed from it. Certainly not micro-USB. And it disrupted a very profitable and well invested 30-pin MFi market.

If Apple switched to USB-C only 4 years later, AND dropped the headphone jack, there would be an even bigger outcry. Not to mention, there is virtually nothing available for USB-C, nor anybody using it in significant numbers. I work at a company of 5,000 employees, and I doubt I could find a USB-C cable easily if it all, to say nothing of a 7-11 at 3AM. So massive disruption of a cable and accessory market that was just overturned recently. And all for some future wired standard which may or may not come to pass, and still requiring an adapter to use your old headphones.

In the meantime, Apple is leading the push to wireless audio, leaving only wireless power before they can remove the Lightning port altogether. So by the time USB-C actually achieves any kind of market penetration, Apple may be dropping ports of any kind on their mobile devices. So where's the logic in creating a marketing nightmare by forcing their over half-a-billion iPhone user base to upgrade all of their Lightning stuff having just done it 4 years ago, when they won't even need them in another 4 years?
 
In the meantime, Apple is leading the push to wireless audio, leaving only wireless power before they can remove the Lightning port altogether.
This. I would not be surprised if the all-glass iPhone2017 has no port of any kind.
 
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