Brain Cancer [From cell phones]

[McDaddio]

I have a PhD in cellular biology from Syracuse and just want people to remember that research not funded

If you really have a PhD from Syracuse, then you what know what Prof. Spegelman and Dr. Horstensiv say about this and you wouldn't post your comment.

 

[orbitalpunk]

 

[Agent OrangeZ]

 

[maxsix]

Considering the cellular industry is a Mega Trillion Dollar Business that touches nearly everyone in the world.

Considering that anyone or any group that claimed a cellphone causes cancer, would be destroyed.

Considering millions upon millions of dollars are paid yearly to politicians to silence any such conversation.

Any scientist, doctor or any credible source claiming phones are lethal, would be ruined.

That anyone would be so naive as to believe that cell phones are safe... Reveals more about that person than they care to take responsibility for.

Living in denial is a very common practice for some...

 

[0007776]

Living in denial is a very common practice for some...

As is believing every conspiracy theory they come across for some people.

 

[Hieveryone]

As is believing every conspiracy theory they come across for some people.

Or people who use common sense and think it's a bad idea put radiation on your head.

 

[JXShine]

Considering the cellular industry is a Mega Trillion Dollar Business that touches nearly everyone in the world.

Considering that anyone or any group that claimed a cellphone causes cancer, would be destroyed.

Considering millions upon millions of dollars are paid yearly to politicians to silence any such conversation.

Any scientist, doctor or any credible source claiming phones are lethal, would be ruined.

That anyone would be so naive as to believe that cell phones are safe... Reveals more about that person than they care to take responsibility for.

Living in denial is a very common practice for some...

Seriously?
Everything we use and consume today affect our physiological functions in some way. Much like exposure to nuclear radiation, the doseage to which we are exposed to is key. If cell phones have been around for decades, and no adverse health concerns have been conclusively linked to cell phone use, then what's the problem? More importantly, cell phones have become ubiquitous and are vital to many people's lives. So as it stands, the benefits outweigh the risks, if there's any. Much like the morons who protest against the use of nuclear power plants, they cannot come up with any viable alternatives that can meet the energy demands of today's society, people spreading FUD about cell phones offer no alternatives.

The fact is, there are simply more prevalent and detrimental diseases that need to be tackled in medical research. There is simply no incentive to investigate something when multiple studies have proven inconclusive.

 

[Cool Pup]

Or people who use common sense and think it's a bad idea put radiation on your head.

There's radiation everywhere at all times. There's no proof that it can do any damage, nor cause cancer by just putting it on your ear. Radiation doesn't automatically mean mutants or death.

What about microwaves? Those things are pretty harmless and are one of the most common places of radiation around. What about computers? Etc...

 

[JXShine]

Or people who use common sense and think it's a bad idea put radiation on your head.

You do realize you are exposed to multiple forms of radiation from every direction in your life? It's all about doseage.

 

[sumsingwong]

Who uses these things to make phone calls anymore?

 

[racer1441]

now that I have your attention - does anyone give a second thought to the dangers of holding a cell phone up to your brain?

I have a PhD in cellular biology from Syracuse and just want people to remember that research not funded by cell phone companies shows an elevated risk of brain cancer for moderate to heave cell phone usage. Bluetooth is even worse as radiation is going through the ear canal.

Ever read the warnings already coming with your cell phone?

Remember cigarettes were once thought to be safe....

Am i at danger from stupid posts? Honestly. I'm in my sixties, smoke cigars every day, drink enough whiskey to float a battleship, and am in better shape and health than most of my friends. They are all on bloodpressure meds, heart stints, cholesterol meds...

We are at greater risk of snotty and self worshiping medical experts than anything else.

 

[HEK]

You're saying that like it's something we should be observing right now. Like we should know exactly right this moment whether or not someone will develop cancer 20 years from now and that we don't know that it's obviously not true.

I have to wonder if you saw this being referred to with an Android phone if you'd be more receptive to it

Of course everyone here knows Android radiation is less healthy than beneficial Apple radiation! That's a Macforum given.

This is getting way nuts! ........everyone put your devices away for. 12 hours. Go read a book....a real book!

 

[Esoom]

I carry my phone in my back pocket, will I get ass cancer?

 

[appleincognito]

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[HEK]

I have a PhD from BSU*, and it's just a legit as yours from Syracuse bc we're both anonymous internet entities.


*Bull **** University

Not so anonymous to our NSA friends and protectors.

 

[racer1441]

Don,t

Whenever I see the phrase "think about it," I anticipate some crazed conspiracy theory that's likely to follow.

Walkie Talkies also send out radiation for miles. As do ham radios. Lanterns send out radiation in the form of light. It's all in the dose, and although it's not conclusive, it seems that for most people in most use-scenarios there is not enough radiation to raise one's cancer risk significantly (particularly above other environmental risks).

Cigarette smoking exploded in the US with the invention of the machine rolled cigarette and the free distribution of cigarettes to WW 1 soldiers as part of their rations. It peaked in the late 1950s, early 1960 which was just after the UK version of the Surgeon General Report came out which implicated smoking as the main cause of lung cancer (the US version would come out a few years later). The increase in lung cancer rates, a formerly rare disease, paralleled the increase in smoking at a 20 year lag.

Nearly everyone in the world owns a cellphone. Per capita cellphone ownership is higher (near 100%) than peak smoking rates. This trend started heading upward around the mid 1990s. One would expect, some 20 years later, to see a corresponding explosion of brain cancer.

"FORTUNE — During the 1980s, just as Americans began pumping low-frequency radiation through their skulls with cell phones, brain cancer rates in the U.S. slowly increased. At the beginning of the decade, doctors delivered the devastating diagnosis of brain cancer to 63 out of every 1 million Americans every year; by 1990 that number had risen to 70 per million. And that’s when cell phone usage really took off.

"Yet while the link between phones and tumors may have seemed certain to grow, a strange thing happened. Beginning in 1991 the rate of brain cancer incidence reversed course and began to slowly fall. By 2008, the last year for which the National Cancer Institute has data, 65 out of every 1 million Americans got a brain cancer diagnosis annually."

So brain cancer rates have not changed significantly over the same period. (And I wonder whether the downward trend of smoking among women beginning in the late 1960s, early 1970s -- their peak years -- accounts for some of the 20-year-later downward trend of brain cancer.)

Study cited in wikipedia:

In 2006, a large Danish group's study about the connection between mobile phone use and cancer incidence was published. It followed over 420,000 Danish citizens for 20 years and showed no increased risk of cancer.[22] A 2011 follow-up confirmed these findings.[23]

You can read more studies below. Most find no association. A few do. Like I said, it's not conclusive but you're probably more at risk for dying from heart disease and/or diabetes from the typical American diet than brain cancer from typical cellphone use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health#Cancer

Don't inject logic into this...the fake phd wants to brag!

 

[Hieveryone]

There's radiation everywhere at all times. There's no proof that it can do any damage, nor cause cancer by just putting it on your ear. Radiation doesn't automatically mean mutants or death.

What about microwaves? Those things are pretty harmless and are one of the most common places of radiation around. What about computers? Etc...

I don't need proof to know putting radiation on your head is bad. If you need proof, keep looking.

 

[Hieveryone]

You do realize you are exposed to multiple forms of radiation from every direction in your life? It's all about doseage.

If you're comfortable putting radiation on your head be my guest. I couldn't care less.

 

[JXShine]

If you're comfortable putting radiation on your head be my guest. I couldn't care less.

People like you is the reason why we have idiotic things like the anti-vaccination, anti-GMO, anti-nuclear power movements.

Throwing out a blanket statement like that without supporting it with any credible sources just makes you look foolish.

 

[willmtaylor]

Not so anonymous to our NSA friends and protectors.

Indeed, but my point was that who someone is, where they claim to work, what they claim to make or what degrees they claim to have earned carries no clout in an anonymous Internet forum about Apple rumors.

 

[HEK]

After reading all this nonsense, I can see why Johnny Ivy refuses to ever use focus groups to decide design direction. Apple would have gone under, long ago, had they taken direction from their consumer base. Can't even begin to imagine what the iPhone would look like or what features it would have.

 

[HEK]

Indeed, but my point was that who someone is, where they claim to work, what they claim to make or what degrees they claim to have earned carries no clout in an anonymous Internet forum about Apple rumors.

I got that part, just had to mention Those Guys listening in, when I heard "anonymous".

The minute I read "I have a Phd" I knew this was going to be an entertaining thread. Reminds me of a friend I had, head was swollen so big he had to enter and leave his home by the garage door.

 

[silverblack]

Considering the cellular industry is a Mega Trillion Dollar Business that touches nearly everyone in the world.

Considering that anyone or any group that claimed a cellphone causes cancer, would be destroyed.

Considering millions upon millions of dollars are paid yearly to politicians to silence any such conversation.

By your logic, politicians would have silenced any negative discussions on the health effect of these industries:
1. Tobacco
2. Pesticides
3. Fast food

Yet I don't see that scientists and doctors are shy from publicly criticizing their harmful nature.

 

[racer1441]

After reading all this nonsense, I can see why Johnny Ivy refuses to ever use focus groups to decide design direction. Apple would have gone under, long ago, had they taken direction from their consumer base. Can't even begin to imagine what the iPhone would look like or what features it would have.

Amen. It's the tech equivelent of the people who call into sports radio. They are the people who should be kept as far away as possible from the rest of us.

 

[Hieveryone]

People like you is the reason why we have idiotic things like the anti-vaccination, anti-GMO, anti-nuclear power movements.

Throwing out a blanket statement like that without supporting it with any credible sources just makes you look foolish.

And putting radiation on your head isn't foolish? Please.