You're putting words in my mouth about how I feel bad for Facebook losing money or something. No, I'm just saying, Apple doesn't push for privacy in ways that'll hurt their own profits. And it's not just cause they're a for-profit company. Some for-profit companies are really sensitive about privacy because their clients are. Apple is only mildly sensitive, probably because regular users aren't experts or don't care enough.
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You're putting words in my mouth about how I feel bad for Facebook losing money or something. No, I'm just saying, Apple doesn't push for privacy in ways that'll hurt their own profits.”
No I was not, nice try. And again I’m point blank, as I did before, calling you out for the ridiculous disparaging of Apple because they make decisions that consider profitable business. ‘They do it for profit’ is an internet poster trick,a ruse. Reality: a for profit company that makes a decision or action that benefits me/their customers is just that, a benefit for me/their customers. That they made the decision because they think it will bring in more customers and/or profit isn’t germane whatsoever in the tech/business world except for those trying to push an agenda by disguising it as morality (oh no! They could make more money from their decision that benefits me! How dare they!).
“So the difference between Google Maps and Apple Maps”…
Again, really? Public info on what each map app gathers (that I posted) but you’re still going to argue it? The stubbornness is admirable but mind numbing. You provided a rephrased jumble of the same ground trying to force something factually wrong into something else. Not working…
Again! The quarterly statements of all 3 companies are public information. Apple and your two, Google and Facebook, are public companies and therefore are bound by regulations to report income. From these
we know Alphabet-Google then Facebook are the worlds biggest advertisers. Their ad businesses are incredibly and impressively advanced. They gather huge and widely varying data on users to make never before seen individualized selling profiles by the hundreds of millions. Every ad run for hundreds of millions (if not beyond a billion) is actually specific and customized to each individual. It’s staggeringly incredibly impressive but it also is, to many of us(not you), a massive invasion of privacy. Regardless of opinions on what is and is not invasion of privacy, the rest Is! Not! Up! For! Debate! The massive data collection to monetize that data via ads to generate the vast lions share of your two companies is unarguable fact, an absolute, ibid. Again, it’s all public information. Seriously, stop arguing against the facts.
Also absolutely factual and also publicly known, 1 Apple gathers a tiny fraction of user data that your two do, 2. They do not monetize ads to any degree. It’s a fact,
this is not up for debate. It’s public record. Continuing as you do just reinforces how much you are intrinsically are against Apple and will fight facts to hold them in contempt.
Ironically, in your first paragraph you chastise Apple for deciding things for their own profit. Yet in the next paragraph you completely disregard Apple making a decision that does not enhance profit. Funny, right? And oh brother could Apple take in Billions! if they changed some code in iOS, in some apps, change up Eulas and stated policy docs. (If they did I’d reevaluate considerably — but Apple is too deep in pushing privacy to turn back).
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Also, this is off-topic now. Point was, Brave is fake news, use Firefox or something.”
By something you mean Chrome (your past posting shows you’re a big Google Chrome fan, not Apple, privacy isn't important). Yes, I do/did a quick scan of all recent posts to understand the clear POV I’m arguing with. While your posts are anti Apple (therefore you are anti Apple) — and I usually hit ignore for the anti Apple crowd (my ignore list is getting big) — I haven’t for you (wow, what an honor right, lol). At least you maintain a certain eloquence and don’t go wayyy into left field like many of your brethren (but there’s still time for that, unfortunately), some of whom I’ve already verbally sliced and diced with inarguable facts….with an assist from their past posts too. History can be a real problem for some 😂
To keep it on topic, Brave is not fake news. We’ll just disagree on that.
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Seriously, you "anti-Apple people"? Does it look like I have an Android phone or something? Sure I comment on privacy, but personally I don't care about my own privacy either way.”
Yes, very seriously you ‘anti Apple people’. Do you deny they thickly exist here on this Apple forum? And as mentioned in my last paragraph, I saw your past posts (FYI, those who hide past posts get the facts in reply then get the ignore. Hiding posts is a sure troll sign). You’re a Big fan of Google Chrome, not a fan of Apple. Reasonable conclusion, you’re probably shining your Pixel right now (from all the constant extra button press fingerprints fixing that buggy device, lol kidding).
And finally I think I should thank you for being ambivalent about your privacy. While I will actively stop as much as possible of my data from being gathered by ad monetizers, those who don’t care about it do pay the bills at Google and a number of other companies/apps. I get my privacy, plus I get to use these companies/apps for free if I find it’s needed. It’s a win-win for all, yes. 😀
