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BREAKING: Microsoft Proposes Yahoo! Takeover at $31 per Share (44 Billion $ Takeover)
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This is the only part of this whole thing that concerns me at all.
Apple has worked hard it seems with Yahoo over the last few years and I can't honestly see that continuing if they become MicroHoo.
It's a no-brainer right now for Yahoo shareholders, a 62% increase over yesterdays closing price? Hell, I'd do it! but there's a long time to go before the deal is supposed to close in Q4 (I believe) so we'll see how sweet the deal is then?
Microsoft has no choice but to try and close the gap between them (or anyone) and Google. It's business. They can't stay that far behind for ever. Shareholders are demanding they catch up somehow.
Everyone here also has to understand that shareholders and people that play the stock market maybe not as tech-savvy as we are. They have no idea that M$ destroys what they buy (Visio, FoxPro, anyone). They don't think of M$ the way we do, this is an Apple forum after all.
I find this very interesting and am enjoying everyone's comments. I'm really looking forward to seeing how it all plays out and in seeing what tattered remains of both M$ and Yahoo are left at the end.
Cheers.
I really don't know why people are crying over this. I personally hate google and never use it, google maps sucks compared to yahoo maps. And when you search in google and do the same search in yahoo, you come with the same matches. I've been using Yahoo before Google, and I will continue to do so. MS purchasing Yahoo is just business and I doubt it will do anything. It might actually bring Yahoo more money if MS adds to their services and doesn't take away. I dunno why but every time I am on these forms MS is the huge guys that ruin everything, are we forgetting back in 1997 when a company that seemed in the gutter was saved by MS? If you don't know what I am talking about, you are most likely on one of that companies computers if you are on this form. I am not saying I like Vista or anything, but I know a lot of people still have to use MS software to do things, I dunno why we always have to bash them.
Please, post the link.
I think you've just hit the nail. Here are some more of Garners predictions.
http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=593207
"By 2012, at least one-third of business application software spending will be as service subscription instead of as product license. With software as service (SaaS), the user organisation pays for software services in proportion to use. This is fundamentally different from the fixed-price perpetual license of the traditional on-premises technology. Endorsed and promoted by all leading business applications vendors (Oracle, SAP, Microsoft) and many Web technology leaders (Google, Amazon), the SaaS model of deployment and distribution of software services will enjoy steady growth in mainstream use during the next five years."
http://gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=593207
Many of this predictions make us understand Micro$oft's recent move. And it is not only against Google, but is on Apple to. Their only hope, (M$'s), is to continue to dominate the software industry on subscription basis via navigators and traffic. In other words, online subscription Office will not work on Google or Safari, and very possible malfunction on Macs as is the case of Windows Live (MSN), with no video and poor interface.
Being the case, ¿What are the hopes?
Wow, you're defending this merger...
You've got a valid way of looking at this merger - and on paper, it may sound good. But you're not doing the qualitative analysis. Microsoft's way of doing business (I know) is slow, cumbersome and overly political. You don't just cruft up stuff and chuck out services in a creative fashion. It's just not in the culture of Microsoft to do that or to do that in an easy enough manner to matter to the public.
I have much more faith in a company like Google, or a small start up - because honestly, they can do it better.
The cost of creating these new services on the web is increasingly getting smaller and smaller and the ability for these companies to create a lasting brand will become more and more difficult. In retrospect, we'll all look back on this and say, "Man, what did they really get for 44 billion?"
Microsoft is lucky that they have Windows and Office and more importantly, they know switching costs to enterprises away from these products is just too high right now...
You've got a valid way of looking at this merger - and on paper, it may sound good. But you're not doing the qualitative analysis. Microsoft's way of doing business (I know) is slow, cumbersome and overly political. You don't just cruft up stuff and chuck out services in a creative fashion. It's just not in the culture of Microsoft to do that or to do that in an easy enough manner to matter to the public.
I have much more faith in a company like Google, or a small start up - because honestly, they can do it better.
The cost of creating these new services on the web is increasingly getting smaller and smaller and the ability for these companies to create a lasting brand will become more and more difficult. In retrospect, we'll all look back on this and say, "Man, what did they really get for 44 billion?"
Microsoft is lucky that they have Windows and Office and more importantly, they know switching costs to enterprises away from these products is just too high right now...
I don't hate 'em!
I don't hate 'em, I'm just trying to be insightful.
On the plus side - Microsoft has:
- A huge cadre of some of the smartest people in the business
- The best development tools, and the easiest development environment to work with
- A great stack for building and delivering enterprise apps and online services quickly, easily and cheaply...
I don't hate 'em, I'm just trying to be insightful.
On the plus side - Microsoft has:
- A huge cadre of some of the smartest people in the business
- The best development tools, and the easiest development environment to work with
- A great stack for building and delivering enterprise apps and online services quickly, easily and cheaply...
They can make all of Yahoo services to properly work only with Internet Explorer.
Yahoo...do not resist...you will be assimilated...bzzzrt..oh wait, yahoo just got the BSOD..Thanks Microsoft!!!! 
heh, isn't that what Yahoo just about does now. i remember when a Mac could not use videos or anything, still today their music will not work on a Mac, their IM service sucks on Mac as well.
My $0.02 is that this is a good thing for everybody.
Primarily that this is great news for the economy. And I'm glad because the news fad now is to doom-and-gloom the economy by yelling all the bad news, while ignoring the good. They can't ignore this.
Hopefully this will lead to healthy companies buying up not-so-healthy ones, and generating much more consolidated engines of productivity.
Love MS or Hate MS, they do provide a lot of productivity to the economy both directly with their products, and indirectly with the cottage-industries of tech support, developers(DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!), et al.
And Yahoo needs the help.
Oh, and the acquisition of Yahoo by MS will tie MS up (hopefully while remaining fiscally healthy) for a while, allowing the Innovators to keep pressing ahead.
Primarily that this is great news for the economy. And I'm glad because the news fad now is to doom-and-gloom the economy by yelling all the bad news, while ignoring the good. They can't ignore this.
Hopefully this will lead to healthy companies buying up not-so-healthy ones, and generating much more consolidated engines of productivity.
Love MS or Hate MS, they do provide a lot of productivity to the economy both directly with their products, and indirectly with the cottage-industries of tech support, developers(DEVELOPERS!DEVELOPERS!), et al.
And Yahoo needs the help.
Oh, and the acquisition of Yahoo by MS will tie MS up (hopefully while remaining fiscally healthy) for a while, allowing the Innovators to keep pressing ahead.
Old PC World Article where MS tried it with Office XP (and quickly recanted).
Here is a Fox news article with goole doing what MS tried (and by the looks of it successing as well).
And of course, the stuff you found as well.
Also I think Apple should buy yahoo just to screw with MS. That would be funny.
I know what you mean! That was back in the days when Yahoo! was considering purchasing Disney, as well. Internet companies had such large market caps, it was ridiculous...
I totally get what you're saying. Make no mistake, I was not defending the merger; I was simply bringing up another reason Microsoft was interested in Yahoo! outside of the simple search statistics...
Well, yes, but at least Yahoo Mail, MyYahoo (at least, the "classic" one), Yahoo Finance and I guess Flickr works fine on whichever browser I use.
Outside of Office, MS has not done much innovative product development. Visio and MapPoint was really useful and user friendly, but MS bought the original companies. It copies Google Maps (even though they could leverage MapPoint years before Google bought that mapping company) iPod/iTunes and even Windows 95 and now Vista. Has Xbox turned a cumulative profit, yet? Well, at least Xbox provides a strong competitor in video game consoles, instead of killing them off.
Ya know ... Yahoo just launched its OpenID program. I wonder what will happen to it. I really hope MS doesn't come in and gut it, to bring in their proprietary passport system. (Regardless of what it is called today, its still passport)
Yahoo bringing in OpenID was a good thing for Yahoo and OpenID.
MS can't kill OpenID, that just won't happen. They will make it struggle though.
I used to use hotmail ... *WAY* back before MS bought it. Guess what happened after they bought it ? I left hotmail. This is another strong reason for me to use google only for my searchs.
I don't like MS, I don't like its leaders, I don't like their products, I don't like their reputation, I don't like their bully business tactics, etc.
Just like Yahoo, MS is dying off and becoming irrelevant. Ballmer is going to run MS into the ground, and that makes me happy.
Yahoo bringing in OpenID was a good thing for Yahoo and OpenID.
MS can't kill OpenID, that just won't happen. They will make it struggle though.
I used to use hotmail ... *WAY* back before MS bought it. Guess what happened after they bought it ? I left hotmail. This is another strong reason for me to use google only for my searchs.
I don't like MS, I don't like its leaders, I don't like their products, I don't like their reputation, I don't like their bully business tactics, etc.
Just like Yahoo, MS is dying off and becoming irrelevant. Ballmer is going to run MS into the ground, and that makes me happy.
Microsoft also wants to buy CNBC
There goes the Apple-Yahoo partnership
So if MS buys Yahoo, Yahoo is going to suck, I guess.
There goes the Apple-Yahoo partnership
So if MS buys Yahoo, Yahoo is going to suck, I guess.
MS has never been innovators really. They buy up tech companies and rebrand their products. Hell even from day 1, they just bought DOS from someone, rebranded it and sold it to IBM.
NO! *smacks Microsoft on the hand* Monopoly bad! Now go to your room and think about what you've done.
If I had been fortunate enough to have Yahoo stock, I'd...
1) be VERY happy
2) have cashed out by 9:00 this morning.
