Apple would only release "a dozen of their own apps" if the API's are going to be different than what exists now on the iPhone/iPod touch. Apple, obviously, already has the SDK so it's not like they have to wait "20+ days" before they would start making change to the apps IF that was required.
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Business Week: iPhone SDK To Arrive 1-3 Weeks Late
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Apple would only release "a dozen of their own apps" if the API's are going to be different than what exists now on the iPhone/iPod touch. Apple, obviously, already has the SDK so it's not like they have to wait "20+ days" before they would start making change to the apps IF that was required.
I think his question wasn't " can apple release apps at the same time ad the release of the sdk"...it was "will they"
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I'm sure they will, but you never know...might just announce "hey! Developers have the SDK! Expect apps in a week!"
Hope this isnt true. Not only will my stock take yet another hit, but it truly is setting up a negative history of delayed Apple releases... i.e Leopard, ATV Take 2, SDK, ect.... Heck even Time Capsule which was announced to ship in Feb is on my order screen as shipping the LAST DAY of Feb.. sheesh..cutting it close arent we.... While I am thrilled with some of the stuff coming out out Apple as of late (love my MBA), it is becoming interesting how they cant seem to stick to a time schedule.
I knew it would be delayed. I replied to someone who asked, "Why jailbreak with the upcoming SDK?" Well, here's the answer.
I'm willing to bet the SDK is delayed because they want it to work with only a new upgrade (1.1.4 or 2.0 or whatever they want to number it) And I'm willing to bet that the new upgrade is going to break all forms of jailbreaking. They'll probably TRY to make it so that even Zibri can't break it. I bet the reason for the delay is because of ZiPhone. With ZiPhone, any idiot who knows how to point and click can jailbreak their phone. (including me, I was only able to jailbreak and unlock my phone up to 1.1.2, not 1.1.3 until ZiPhone came out) Apple has to keep their partners happy and insure them that the iPhone is exclusive only to them.
I'm willing to bet the SDK is delayed because they want it to work with only a new upgrade (1.1.4 or 2.0 or whatever they want to number it) And I'm willing to bet that the new upgrade is going to break all forms of jailbreaking. They'll probably TRY to make it so that even Zibri can't break it. I bet the reason for the delay is because of ZiPhone. With ZiPhone, any idiot who knows how to point and click can jailbreak their phone. (including me, I was only able to jailbreak and unlock my phone up to 1.1.2, not 1.1.3 until ZiPhone came out) Apple has to keep their partners happy and insure them that the iPhone is exclusive only to them.
For almost two months I have been planning to get an iPod Touch to be used as a PDA. Among the main reasons is the interface (way better than anything else) and the active developer community 
. These news are a major bump as the SDK would make crystal clear how Apple want to deal with developers.
Oh, life...my Moleskine will not be retired so soon...
. These news are a major bump as the SDK would make crystal clear how Apple want to deal with developers.Oh, life...my Moleskine will not be retired so soon...
Well, I'm not too put out. A few weeks isn't a terribly big deal. Still, like the other posters, I'm not looking forward to the beating the stock will take. Sigh.
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Well we will found out in a week if this is true or not. Hopefully It is only partially true if anything. I really would like new apps.
Well we will found out in a week if this is true or not. Hopefully It is only partially true if anything. I really would like new apps.
I don't know how this source is precise. but I don't believe what they said. I just wait for apple reaction. that's all we want. I don't give people who work for business week ****. it's just predicted. unfortunately usually business people say is not matched what computer world say. so we wait.
That is not true. Developers are the only people who can use the sdk, and they can deal with bugs. Besides, a select few third parties are already using it, so it must work. Just release it as beta if it isn't ready for 1.0.
We just want to get to work on our iPhone apps, and the sooner the better.
I really wish this was a rumor and couldn't be true, but it is kind of hard to not believe it. Why does Apple always seem to make unrealistic estimates for when things will be released? The end of February is in under a week and the SDK doesn't seem like something Apple would do a quiet release for. I first started thinking they were behind when Steve didn't do any type of preview or anything at MacWorld and the fact that nothing more has been said isn't a good sign. I just hope that the delay is only a week, I have been waiting for this to be released for a long time now.
I could forgive Apple for a few weeks if they release an updated MBP.
I could forgive Apple for a few weeks if they release an updated MBP.
My thoughts exactly...
This is effing bs. Im a huge Apple fanboy, but I must admit theyve been dropping the ball. Time Capsule? Does that even exist yet? SDK delayed?
Come on... rescue my stock dammit.
Lets hope they Thow us a bone and release a few apps to download/buy ? And explain how their apps model will work.
You actually said Mac Pro? It is universally agreed that the update to that particular range took a very very long time...
And the Air is a new product - so does not count.
Apple are in the business of making commodity product with a long inventory tail running into their stores (and resellers). Thus they do not update as regularly as - say - Dell (who don't have the above issues). Also, fewer upgrades mean fewer machine types to keep a track of - which makes their support and repair operations easier to manage. People may not like it - but there are solid business reasons why Apple don't update their range every five minutes.
It now looks like Apple may be sitting out updates to the MBP until the news chipset that was designed to work with the latest processors becomes available - around June I believe. They hung on until the new chipset and processors were available for the Mac Pro, so I don't see Apple having any problems doing so with the MBP now. The longer wait may also indicate that Apple will give the MBP a much needed redesign and incorporate the keyboard and mag latch from the MBA (it is only a matter of time before these show up on the MBP - if not this update, then the next).
On the main topic of the SDK, Apple is playing catchup. They rushed the iPhone out the door. They hurried the Touch out shortly after. They got something that worked (but had a few curious omissions), but in the rush they had given no thought to an SDK at all. With another year of work some of those holes are being filled - and they are about ready to roll with the SDK. Essentially Apple launched the iPhone a year early (doubly true if word about low power G3 chips being available in quantity in June/July is correct). But what choice did they really have? iPod sales are flattening out, so Apple needs to expand into new markets and the entrenched competition would have had another year to raise their game a little had Apple sat on the iPhone.
As it is, Apple are poised to unleash a whole new range of touch devices. Whether by chance or design you have to wonder. Where all the tablet PCs and PDAs have failed to deliver, Apple are pulling together the hardware and software to make the concept really work because their two major strengths are design and interfaces. That is what made the iPod the success it is. Not innovation (Apple did not invent the digital music player), but their ability to create an end-to-end system that the average person can use. Now they are doing the same to portable information/communications devices. When the user directly interacts with the data, then the interface is everything.
So - we have speculation that the SDK will be late. I would have been surprised if such a story had not emerged as the end of the month approaches. However, I'm going to wait and see what happens at the start of next week. Either Apple will announce an event or they issue a press release on the subject of a delay (preferably before the end of the month).
Personally - I'd just punt out the SDK as a beta version. Sure some would whine about issues, but even the final release is realistically going to have some. A beta allows the kinks to be worked out more thoroughly. Bootcamp worked out quite well after all.
They must be trying to make sure the SDK has no bugs. If thats the case then they can take their time. 10.5.2 and Apple TV Take 2 saw delays but once they came out there were very few (small) bugs. But I guess until it comes out I will just continue to develop .Net apps for Mobile 6.
So instead it will be release late, worthwhile, and a buggy p.o.s....OK whatever. As if anything Apple has released in the last 2 years HASN'T been buggy as heck.
I've got a couple of ideas for custom Apps I'm just itching to try out. I could just about do them as AJAX web pages, but really need the ability to work without a data connection. Would be fun to have multiple iPhones all running the apps and sharing data via bluetooth - now there are real possibilities.
Oh... and use my iPhone as a remote control for EyeTV so I don't have to keep looking for the remote that came with it...
A notes application that can be synched with my desktop machine would be nice (if Apple don't add such a feature to the existing notes app)
Apple really should add the ability to remote control iTunes and/or
TV from the iPhone. Come on guys - think integration here!If someone produces a keyboard to which the iPhone could be docked and a light WP app, then I could use it for 95% of the things I use a laptop for now...
id rather have a complete, stable, full-functioning SDK out than something buggy later...
the new killer app I want on the iPhone? It should be a universal remote- or at least if the iPod Touch had an infrared transmitter, THAT would make it a killer product.
the new killer app I want on the iPhone? It should be a universal remote- or at least if the iPod Touch had an infrared transmitter, THAT would make it a killer product.
I have been pondering this myself. There has been all this speculation about a BIG SECRET announcement surrounding the SDK at the end of February and all along I have been thinking WHY? What's the big deal unless your planning on developing apps for the iPhone...correct? Am I missing something? I'm sure Apple has a few select companies which have been privy to the SDK to make a big splash upon launch but I would think that the best of the SDK is what will happen in the future once companies have access to it. Am I on par here? Or should we expect amazing things once it's released?
Delays to Leopard
Delays to AppleTV 2.0
Delays to the SDK
It's getting rather predictable.
The iPhone and iPod Touch are both very short of software features, software features that will no longer be reliant on a reluctant Apple once the SDK is out. That's why people want to see it yesterday.
Doug
Delays to AppleTV 2.0
Delays to the SDK
It's getting rather predictable.
The iPhone and iPod Touch are both very short of software features, software features that will no longer be reliant on a reluctant Apple once the SDK is out. That's why people want to see it yesterday.
Doug