Sorry... they've always been referred to as that. Just Apple's style of naming revisions.
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Sorry... they've always been referred to as that. Just Apple's style of naming revisions.
I hope you are not even in the least bit serious...
Nah, not with all the money they just spent to make those aluminum ones - but the price and this economy could drive it that way. seems like they are slimming down the selection more and more. With so many hackintosh's psystar startups - retail OSX for non-apple hardware, nope.....
I must say this macworld is definately wierd, no leaks yet - ipod, macbooks/MPB just updated, possible rumor of an imac update, I don't see them doing anything with mini, and the market is too small for a big announcement on the pro or server lines.
So just means - iphone, software, maybe an update on how snow is coming; in the last keynote apple apple did not seem big on the netbook or tablet idea.
so either there is gonna be a huge suprise, or this year's macworld is gonna be scaled down and lame.
The new processors will be more expensive so prices will probably go up. Old processor prices won't come down so it is unlikely Apple will keep old models like they are with the Macbook (if that is what you meant).
New speeds available will be 2.66GHz, 2.8GHz, 2.93GHz and 3.2GHz. Apple will probably go with 2.66GHz on the low end and 3.2GHz on the high end then one or both of the others, probably the 2.93 if they only choose one. Airport might still be left off as it probably is only bought for a small percentage of Mac Pros. Display Port makes sense, but I wouldn't count on it.
Prices are likely going to be more not less because of LED backlighting. This is an area that is hard to predict because of the 24" being a bit of an odd thing in terms of how Apple have dealt with displays in the past. Personally I'd like to see a seperate pro line, but I can't see them doing two 24" displays.
I still don't know what to do with it, but there has been a discrepancy on the American Apple Store regarding the options of the Mini for a couple of days now: the picture in front of the hard drives is the HDD/SSD one from the macbooks; this is not the same on the Dutch Apple Store, which keeps the regular picture.
So, it looks like an individual change. A proper mistake, or something coming about the Mini? (Don't ask me about whether an SSD would make sense in a Mini. Maybe a 64Gb one or smaller...)
So, it looks like an individual change. A proper mistake, or something coming about the Mini? (Don't ask me about whether an SSD would make sense in a Mini. Maybe a 64Gb one or smaller...)
ok, maybe not firewire.... I never use it anyway. But an LCD with USB, MAGSAFE and mini DVI for my current/early 2008 macbook would suit me fine. I don't think any of the current displays (except the newone) have the magsafe to power my macbook.
Wow, you're right. mine defaults to the US as I am in the USA, but I popped over to the AU site and yes - the picture is different. hmmm.....
I suppose they could have a 16GB high speed os/apps disk. More likely i think that this picture is the new default hard drive image on the apple store, makes sense to include an SSD image as 3/6 macs have the option to have one. I don't think we know much yet.
I would think, because Jobs specified that Apple is moving to the mini display port on all of their computers, that if the mac mini does not receive this update (along with others) by Macworld '09 in January, it is being phased out.
And here's to hoping for an Apple TV update *cheers*
And here's to hoping for an Apple TV update *cheers*
These kind of inconsistencies pop up from time to time on Apple sites and they rarely turn out to be anything noteworthy. I wouldn't look too much into it.
Dell updates it's XPS One
Dell just updated it's XPS One models to include a 24" version with a Quad-core processor and 4GB of RAM standard.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_one?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Slightly less expensive than their iMac counterparts. Granted the lowest XPS One has crappy Intel graphics.
Now of course, the 2 biggest problems with these are 1) They are from Dell and 2) They run Windows
-Kevin
Dell just updated it's XPS One models to include a 24" version with a Quad-core processor and 4GB of RAM standard.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_one?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Slightly less expensive than their iMac counterparts. Granted the lowest XPS One has crappy Intel graphics.
Now of course, the 2 biggest problems with these are 1) They are from Dell and 2) They run Windows
-Kevin
ticked
I understand Apple needs to go after the $$$$ and right now thats with definitely with Laptops, but come on they are totally forgetting the creative community who really helped keep them afloat before they got all cool and trendy with iPods and Apple stores.
We demand high end computers and with technology these days before a product is even released to the shelves its out dated let alone having to wait a year for a new Desktop from them.
Pisses me off
I understand Apple needs to go after the $$$$ and right now thats with definitely with Laptops, but come on they are totally forgetting the creative community who really helped keep them afloat before they got all cool and trendy with iPods and Apple stores.
We demand high end computers and with technology these days before a product is even released to the shelves its out dated let alone having to wait a year for a new Desktop from them.
Pisses me off
Even if they don't update the Mac mini, it'd be nice if Apple slashed the price (like maybe HALF) to make it more competitive. I would love to introduce my family to Macs with something cheap like a mini, but it seems like the only choice I'm left in the current situation is to build/buy a Hackintosh.
I thought so too. However, the iMac page on the US store still has the "old" icon (named "bto_imac_harddrive090803.gif").
The Mini page on the NL store has the "old" icon (named "btoimageharddrive_macmini.jpg"), and the Mini page on the US page has the new icon, common to the Macbooks ("btoimageharddrive.jpg").
So, if you choose a new standard icon, it should be applied on all machines, not exclude the iMac.
In the end, I guess so, too...
According to 9to5mac.com, there will be updates to both the iMac and Mac Mini on November 11th:
http://9to5mac.com/node/1589
iMac, Mac Pro upgrades loom?
Wed, 10/29/2008 - 04:37 Andy Space
With the MacBook range upgrade under our belts the Mac web is beginning to consider Apple's next move, and it looks like iMac customers may choose to defer their next purchase for a few weeks - as some claim an upgrade to the system's due to debut in November.
Veteran Mac industry watcher Dennis Sellers at Macsimum News speculates: "Im pretty sure that well see an iMac and Mac mini update on Tuesday, Nov. 11."
He also suggests Apple will introduce a powerfully-upgraded Mac Pro and a revamped range of Cinema Displays in January. The latter systems will offer LED screens, built-in speakers and iSight cameras, he surmises - not unreasonably given Apple's recently introduced display for its laptops.
Naturally, his suggestions generated immediate conversation, with one reader suggesting Seller's has the dates right, but the products wrong - new Mac Pro for November? We have seen Apple upgrade its pro machines in November before, admittedly - and Xserve seems to need a little love at this point...
The Mac Pro is long overdue for an update. Its been 294 days since the last one. The iMac on the other hand, is well under the average time for an update. We'll see how this plays...
http://9to5mac.com/node/1589
iMac, Mac Pro upgrades loom?
Wed, 10/29/2008 - 04:37 Andy Space
With the MacBook range upgrade under our belts the Mac web is beginning to consider Apple's next move, and it looks like iMac customers may choose to defer their next purchase for a few weeks - as some claim an upgrade to the system's due to debut in November.
Veteran Mac industry watcher Dennis Sellers at Macsimum News speculates: "Im pretty sure that well see an iMac and Mac mini update on Tuesday, Nov. 11."
He also suggests Apple will introduce a powerfully-upgraded Mac Pro and a revamped range of Cinema Displays in January. The latter systems will offer LED screens, built-in speakers and iSight cameras, he surmises - not unreasonably given Apple's recently introduced display for its laptops.
Naturally, his suggestions generated immediate conversation, with one reader suggesting Seller's has the dates right, but the products wrong - new Mac Pro for November? We have seen Apple upgrade its pro machines in November before, admittedly - and Xserve seems to need a little love at this point...
The Mac Pro is long overdue for an update. Its been 294 days since the last one. The iMac on the other hand, is well under the average time for an update. We'll see how this plays...
[truth]Yes. They completely forgot about you. Unless you are willing to spend over $2,700 for a computer without as monitor. [/truth]
No. Apple loves you and will look after you.
looking forward to seeing all 3 of these macs updated. hopefully the iMac will see an update next month, but if not, the all 3 at macworld
I used to think Apple was nuts to simply ignore the largest segment of the computer market and only offer speciality "niche" desktop products but then Steve made it clear during the financial teleconference. He said "We choose not to serve those customers."
Steve Jobs is not were he is because of fuzzy thinking. The above statement clearly in just a few words tells us Apple's entire business model. They only offer "high margin" products. This by definition means they will never offer a "mainstream" computer. the main stream is very price competitive and Apple simply choose to not serve that customer.
I'm waiting for a macbook pro update. It's largely overdue and I would really like to see a new Apple notebook.
i7 based Mac Pro? Don't tempt me!
Wasn't there some type of licensing issue with Nvidia motherboards and the new line of Intel chips? I think I heard something about that over the summer.
Nvidia do not have a license for QPI (quick path interconnect) so cannot make boards for Core i7 processors. They wouldn't have been making them for the Mac Pro anyway as they have never (to my knowledge) produced Intel dual socket boards.
I don't remember the exact quote, but during the last arm-wrestling for royalty fees connected to iTunes songs, Apple issued a statement along the line of: "Apple is here to make money; if we can't make money due to the requested increase in royalty fees, we'll pull iTunes Store out of the market". (Ok, maybe some bluff here, but it worked).
Bottom line: "we're here for the money". (Which is valid for most companies, though).
You're probably right on all counts, the server/workstation cpus will be more expensive than current ones (at similar clocks) and the dual-quad 2.66GHz nehalem Mac Pro will probably cost $2999. But it doesn't negate the fact that this Mac will probably be faster than the current dual-quad 3.0 that ships for $3599.
The other thing is that it makes no sense what so ever to ship a single cpu model on a dual-cpu motherboard with the changes in the architecture. So, will Apple release two versions of the Mac Pro? Single cpu (X58 chipset and Core i7 cpu) and dual cpu (Tylersburg-EP and two xeon nehalems)...
Given the low price of the high-end desktop cpus (Core i7 965/940/920), Apple COULD release a single cpu Mac Pro for about $1299 (the quad 2.66GHz core i7 920 will cost about $284, the 2.93GHz $562, and the 3.20GHz $999).
Power requierements: a single Core i7 has a TDP of 130W, dual xeon nehalems cpus have a combined TDP of 190W or 260W for the dual 3.20GHz cpus. With each revisions of the Mac Pro the TDP increases. Maybe it's time to cool down a little.
So, here are my wishes (or better, the possibilities) for two lines of Mac Pro:
Uni-processor Mac Pro (X58 chipset, Core i7 cpus):
$1299 quad 2.66GHz, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, Superdrive, nvidia GPU
$1599 quad 2.93GHz, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, Superdrive, nvidia GPU
$1999 quad 3.20GHz, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, Superdrive, nvidia GPU
Wishful thinking, Apple would probably sell those for $1599/1999/2499 (if not higher), still I'd buy one or two of them...
Dual-processor Mac Pro (Tylersburg-EP chipset, nehalem Xeon cpus):
$2999 dual-quad 2.66GHz, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, Superdrive, nvidia GPU (the cpus X5560 will cost $958 each)
$3999 dual-quad 2.93GHz, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, Superdrive, nvidia GPU (the cpus X5570 will cost $1,386 each)
$4599 dual-quad 3.20GHz, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, Superdrive, nvidia GPU (the cpus W5580 will cost $1,600 each)
This years MacWorld looks to be the lamest in a long while.... that is unless they release the AppleTV 2.0 with DVR or a tablet.
Snow Leopard info... tepid
17" MBP.....woopdie doo
MP update....really woopdie doo
iMac updates....boring
When will the iPhone 3.0 rumors start? can we expect a new version next June?
Snow Leopard info... tepid
17" MBP.....woopdie doo
MP update....really woopdie doo
iMac updates....boring
When will the iPhone 3.0 rumors start? can we expect a new version next June?