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Buyers Guide Update: iMacs, Mac Minis, and Mac Pros
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why nvidia GPU?
Why not use ATI 4850's for GPU in new Mac Pro? They are a great performance/price mix. we need to keep nvidia competition alive.
Why not use ATI 4850's for GPU in new Mac Pro? They are a great performance/price mix. we need to keep nvidia competition alive.
Apple is moving to Nvidia boards into all their systems.
Or at least it looks that way. Maybe an AMD Chip/Nvidia board or Intel/Intel.
Of course, we could get Intel/Nvidia if it is worked out.
lol. turd.
sorry for the double. Thought someone would have posted something before I posted again.
Psystar has traction because Apple is choosing to ignore a key demographic desiring a mid-range, or half-height Mac Pro. I am hoping that Apple has something up their sleeves seeing they have given Psystar a pass--legally. This bodes for a new tact by Apple. If they do not do something to compete with the Hacintoshes waiting in the wings, they will see a decline in sales and a red line of models they COULD have sold!
They've done no such thing; they're still pursuing their legal case against Psystar.
Apple is really tripping up.
Hope they get out something decent in January in terms of computers. The iPhone is nice, but they cant avoid their computer market for too long.
Hope they get out something decent in January in terms of computers. The iPhone is nice, but they cant avoid their computer market for too long.
It should be faster than the 3.2GHz! Sadly (though maybe justly) a lot of people will still complain about the price because they aren't just buying for the processor power.
It doesn't make sense from a consumer point of view, but I doubt Apple want the marketing issues of 4 faster cheaper cores vs 8 slower / more expensive ones. It will be cheaper for Apple to just buy Xeons rather than a mix, same with systemboards. If they are expensive to keep the Mac Pro somewhat competitive then all the reviews will focus on the price which will not do Apple any favours on a new range. Maybe Apple will surpise us, but I wouldn't count on it. Remember Apple aren't about choice.
The current 3.2GHz processors have a combined TDP of 300W so it should be alright.
ATI will probably offer 3rd party 4800 series cards if Apple aren't offering them directly.
I think it is more a case of it made sense this time with notebooks. The Mac Pro will surely be an Intel board with Intel processors.
Those two goals are contradictory; systems get that cheap by stripping out all the expansion slots and putting everything on the motherboard.
I was joking, or at least partly. It just seems like ever since Apple 1st announced the iPhone, that was their main focus & put everything else on the back burner. I'm glad to see the new MacBooks, but I'm still not 100% convinced Apple's giving its computer division enough attention.
They didn't even go to NAB last year, did they? I agree that it'll probably be a consumer product focused event. Last year, they announced the new MacPros seperately just before MWSF and then had the Keynote and show focus on the MBA. Which is not to say that they couldn't have some big software updates and announcements planned for this year. I agree about the timing for updating the iLife suite, and am hoping for some new pro level stuff as well.
Are there any real competitors to the Mini? Roughly the same size, but the same or better performance ( Mainly graphics - I don't care much about the optical drive )? I'd like to pick up a Mac Mini, but more for Christmas time frame and I'd like to get a refreshed Mini, but it looks like that won't happen.
Apple abondoning the "Pros"?
It seems to me Apple is slowly abandoning the pro and creative market. Here's why:
Firewire 400 (standard in pro audio): gone
DVI: soon to be gone
matte displays in laptops (preferable for photo and video): gone
Logic 8: dumbed down to be more like garageband and terribly buggy, totally unreliable. Go back to Logic 7 if you need a pro app
Charge indicator on laptop batteries: gone (it's quite useful, when you need to manage multiple batteries)
I for one am slowly migrating my pro stuff to Windows XP, keeping Mac for rudimentary stuff I guess.
PS: Apple, please fix ATSServer. Having to Force-Power-Off my Macbook 4 times a day is lame...
It seems to me Apple is slowly abandoning the pro and creative market. Here's why:
Firewire 400 (standard in pro audio): gone
DVI: soon to be gone
matte displays in laptops (preferable for photo and video): gone
Logic 8: dumbed down to be more like garageband and terribly buggy, totally unreliable. Go back to Logic 7 if you need a pro app
Charge indicator on laptop batteries: gone (it's quite useful, when you need to manage multiple batteries)
I for one am slowly migrating my pro stuff to Windows XP, keeping Mac for rudimentary stuff I guess.
PS: Apple, please fix ATSServer. Having to Force-Power-Off my Macbook 4 times a day is lame...
So a pro audio user can afford the $5k in audio hardware but not the additional $700 to get firewire let alone the $20 to get a display port adapter?
Systems that do that come in at the sub-$400 range. An $800 PC still has expansion slots and non-integrated (though budget-class) graphics.
The Mac Pro should include USB 3.0 and eSATA and drop the old FW400 port. FW800 and beyond support should of course stay around. I hope it has some killer graphics card for consumers and the memory is DDR3 and maybe a new look.
Cant FW400 devices be used with FW800 ports by buying simple adapters or new cables? Wont FW800 become the new pro standard? Once you connect one FW400 device, couldnt you daisy chain it to use old FW400 cables (assuming it has two ports)? Cant you buy cheap FW400 PCI cards?
I dont see how dumping the FW400 port can be seen as a sign of abandoning the pro market.
Imo
i think that -
iPhone - 1/2
OS X 10.6 - 1/4
Macs (17" MBP, Mini speed bump) - 2 mins MAX
Software (Pro Apps) - 1/4
Just a Guess
i think that -
iPhone - 1/2
OS X 10.6 - 1/4
Macs (17" MBP, Mini speed bump) - 2 mins MAX
Software (Pro Apps) - 1/4
Just a Guess
It's not abandonment, it's called changing with the times.
FW800 is backwards compatible with FW400. I simple adapter is all that's needed to plug in FW400 devices. Soon, FW800 will probably be left for FW3200 or even eSata.
DVI is dying, to be replaced most likely by DisplayPort or HDMI which can carry both audio/video and has two-way communication (think touch screens).
The majority of Apple customers probably don't carry multiple batteries around. Yes, it's handy to use the indicators of the batteries themselves, but I think the benefit of having it on the side of the system, is better. Plus they built in expanded error checking into the error lights.
The more I read, the more I hear with the LED backlights, *most* people are ok with the glossy displays. No, it's not perfect, but it's workable.
I don't use Logic so I can't comment on that.
As for you ATSServer server issue, sounds like maybe a reinstall is in order.
-Kevin
DVI has two communication.
HDMI is just DVI + SOUND also not all LCD displays have build in sound and they don't have digital audio out.
Very few video cards have sound out that some times is just a S/PDIF plug on the card hooked to the sound chips on the MB or a add in card.
Mac Pro
I am considering a new Mac Pro since Apple no longer seems to like the Power PC's. I am a java developer and more projects now need Java 6. This means I have to use my MacBook Pro rather than my Desktop. This is a pain as my Desktop has dual monitors and therefore easier to work with. Also doing a lot more Virtualization these days (VMWare running CentOs, and Parallels running Fedora/Oracle) to allow me to replicate production so an Intel based Desktop would be cool.
If they bring out a new model I will probably get one of the old clearance models to keep the cost down and still get an impressive machine.
Would not upgrade my MacMini unless it supported Blu-Ray and had a HDMI port. Otherise it is a perfect media machine.
I am considering a new Mac Pro since Apple no longer seems to like the Power PC's. I am a java developer and more projects now need Java 6. This means I have to use my MacBook Pro rather than my Desktop. This is a pain as my Desktop has dual monitors and therefore easier to work with. Also doing a lot more Virtualization these days (VMWare running CentOs, and Parallels running Fedora/Oracle) to allow me to replicate production so an Intel based Desktop would be cool.
If they bring out a new model I will probably get one of the old clearance models to keep the cost down and still get an impressive machine.
Would not upgrade my MacMini unless it supported Blu-Ray and had a HDMI port. Otherise it is a perfect media machine.
unless they introduce matte and firewire back to keep those witho are cring about