Cadillac Announces CarPlay and Android Auto Support Coming to 2016 Models

[gixxerfool]

I work on Cadillacs every day. The CUE has been a nightmare from launch. I could make a whole days pay on an XTS with recalls alone. I dread when this launches now. I can only imagine the issues we will have to address. Someone mentioned the lag. It is still very laggy among the entire line. Not to mention some inputs get ignored completely. And to whomever it was, it's not just a little box under the dash. It's a system comprised of several modules including the interface device. They are all deeply integrated with each other. So you're not just replacing the "box" as you call it.

 

[DotCom2]

yay i can't wait to get an Audi

I might have to get an Audi instead of a Lexus if they don't step up to the plate here. HHHHHHH

 

[dampfnudel]

Yup. I bought a 2014 Civic and many of Apple's very own pictures showing off the carplay interface literally use the touch screen dash from my car, and yet I can't use carplay in my car. It's a very strange thing to see.

My guess is like most Japanese companies, Honda is stuck in molasses when it comes to software, and they're fumbling around trying to get this to market. It's absolutely ridiculous as my 2014 Civic is completely ready for these features, but they just can't get their act together.

I was thinking about trading in my 2007 Acura TL for the new 2015 Acura TLX, but I definitely want both CarPlay and Android Auto to be installed in it before I drive off the dealer's lot. In other words, it looks like I have to wait for the 2016 or more likely 2017 TLX before that happens. I think the chances of your 2014 Civic getting CarPlay are slim to none. It's just a shame that current Civic owners had to be teased with a feature they won't get unless they buy a new Civic a year or two from now (or pay dearly to upgrade third party). I bet there are quite a few people buying 2015 models thinking their vehicle will be backwards compatible with CarPlay and Android Auto.

 

[rgraf77]

They're a lot better, but they lack the design, quality, and performance of their German counterparts.

Tell that to my friend who's Audi is always in the shop with problems. Cadilliac makes great performance cars. Guess you haven't heard of the "V" series.

 

[dfs]

It's bad enough having the suggestion that I need to upgrade my seven month old iPad mini to use all the new features of ios9, now I have to buy a new car to use CarPlay??
I'm sick of the way Apple is focussed so much on getting people to spend money. Steve would turn in his grave if he knew what Cook is doing with the company. Tim Cook and his mob can repeat "I'm SO excited" as much as they want, but I am getting much less excited about the direction Apple are going.

Let's tone down the rhetoric here. I'm happily using CarPlay in my old car (a 2003 model). Aftermarket units are available from Alpine, Panasonic, and maybe some other mfrs. as well (the newer Panasonic models even have Bluetooth connectivity).

 

[wovel]

If you really want to car shame, let's rip on Jaguar and Land Rover. The quality of those have been very lacking to justify the price. The current Land Rover dash and stack looks like a video arcade as you drive along.

Jaguar has always been overpriced junk. Land Rover used to make some solid vehicles, but they seem to have lost their focus.

 

[wovel]

Let's tone down the rhetoric here. I'm happily using CarPlay in my old car (a 2003 model). Aftermarket units are available from Alpine, Panasonic, and maybe some other mfrs. as well (the newer Panasonic models even have Bluetooth connectivity).

Indeed. Pioneer has about 20 models. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/CarPlay/

 

[reevans]

Cadillac used to be a luxury brand in the 1960's but it has lost its lustre over time. Now they are putting Android in it. Yuck.

 

[LordVic]

I work on Cadillacs every day. The CUE has been a nightmare from launch. I could make a whole days pay on an XTS with recalls alone. I dread when this launches now. I can only imagine the issues we will have to address. Someone mentioned the lag. It is still very laggy among the entire line. Not to mention some inputs get ignored completely. And to whomever it was, it's not just a little box under the dash. It's a system comprised of several modules including the interface device. They are all deeply integrated with each other. So you're not just replacing the "box" as you call it.

This seems to be the norm in Car radios though.

I can't even begin to tell you how absolutely disgustingly terrible Toyota's inhouse in-dash system is.

Laggy. Iresponsive. Outdated maps (that were at least 5 years old at the time I bought the car new). The voice recognition barely works. Basically everything yo mentioned with the Cadillac one too.

Car companies have always been behind the trend for their audio systems. They were still putting tape decks in when CDs were standard. They still put CD's while Digital had become the norm.

Now they're caught up with digital, at least to play music, they're still for the most part all behind on the "connected" car and only starting to catch up.

I have yet to find a single car company whose in house solution is considered modern and up to date

What bothers me most about Toyota's system right now, is that it already is a QNX based system, with touch screen, USB port and just about everything required to run Android Auto or CarPlay, and yet Toyota has decided to outright ignore it for their own internal software layer. Not the right choice. They should be updating everyone to have CarPlay/AndroidAuto of they want

 

[ct1211]

Cadillac is unbelievably overrated. Their design is pretty bad save for a model or two. Their lure is more ghetto than anything.

I'm from Detroit, your spot on with your assessment of who drives a Cadillac. It aligns perfectly with Apples new demographic for Apple Watch - Especially the Gold edition.

 

[greytmom]

I followed the link, put in my vehicle, and it returned 4 units. All of them under the "carplay" search for my car. They were all 4 Sirius XM "Home" units to get Sirius on your desk. Nothing to do with a car or carpal.

So the link was bad. The point is that there ARE carplay enabled stereos on the market.

 

[dr4stic]

I have yet to find a single car company whose in house solution is considered modern and up to date

I found the interfaces on the Tesla to be quite impressive. Everything touch, analog inputs where it made sense, main interface on basically a MASSIVE tablet. Linux based (open, not closed) and they can (and have) released bug fixes and upgrades OTA. I like their model, they seem to get it.

I'm curious to see how they'll integrate carplay and Android auto though given how their system works. You can't very well hand over full control of a 20" screen that controls EVERYTHING. in fact, I thing I'll Google that now...

 

[gixxerfool]

This seems to be the norm in Car radios though.

I can't even begin to tell you how absolutely disgustingly terrible Toyota's inhouse in-dash system is.

Laggy. Iresponsive. Outdated maps (that were at least 5 years old at the time I bought the car new). The voice recognition barely works. Basically everything yo mentioned with the Cadillac one too.

Car companies have always been behind the trend for their audio systems. They were still putting tape decks in when CDs were standard. They still put CD's while Digital had become the norm.

Now they're caught up with digital, at least to play music, they're still for the most part all behind on the "connected" car and only starting to catch up.

I have yet to find a single car company whose in house solution is considered modern and up to date

What bothers me most about Toyota's system right now, is that it already is a QNX based system, with touch screen, USB port and just about everything required to run Android Auto or CarPlay, and yet Toyota has decided to outright ignore it for their own internal software layer. Not the right choice. They should be updating everyone to have CarPlay/AndroidAuto of they want

I wish it weren't so, but the constant issues are hard to ignore.

I remember reading an article years ago stating tape decks were still offered in high lines because the demographic purchasing them still used them. It seems now with digital purchasing and streaming being so easy and prevelant, there's no need. Although there is still a CD changer in the glove box.

I used to be a big "cheerleader" for GM. The last few years have soured that. Now that they have all these new models, there are rumors there will be another revamp. They have hired the Audi designer and he is supposed to redo all the cars. Again. GMs performance division seems to be the only one with their heads on straight. The rest it seems that GM is their own worst enemy.

 

[AustinIllini]

Tell that to my friend who's Audi is always in the shop with problems. Cadilliac makes great performance cars. Guess you haven't heard of the "V" series.

Reliability is a different thing. You wouldn't go to Cadillac for reliability either. You would go Acura, Lexus, Infiniti.

 

[Leonard1818]

Heh, it's a similar sort of case with most American cars. They're not really purchased outside of the US, save for a few iconic muscle cars I guess.

You're kidding right? I lol'd

http://media.buick.com/media/us/en/...ges/news/us/en/2015/Jan/0107-buick-sales.html

I'm not a diehard GM fanboy by any means... I've mostly had Hondas -- but I love all vehicles.

But seriously... how can you say that nobody buys "American" cars outside of the U.S. (and I put "American" in quotes cause I like to recognize that it's no longer the roaring 20's and we live in what's referred to as a "global economy".)

 

[Leonard1818]

I also wanted to mention that I've known at least 8 people that own or have owned Cadallics and I don't think a single one of them has even been able to fully utilize their iPhone for anything more than phone calls and text messages... I find it somwhat ironic that GM is going w/the Cadillac brand to launch this. I understand they're *trying* to position Cadillac as "not your grandpa's caddy" and targeting a younger market... but let's get real here...

 

[keysofanxiety]

You're kidding right? I lol'd

http://media.buick.com/media/us/en/...ges/news/us/en/2015/Jan/0107-buick-sales.html

I'm not a diehard GM fanboy by any means... I've mostly had Hondas -- but I love all vehicles.

But seriously... how can you say that nobody buys "American" cars outside of the U.S. (and I put "American" in quotes cause I like to recognize that it's no longer the roaring 20's and we live in what's referred to as a "global economy".)

Ahahahahaha that link you sent me. 1.4 million cars in a YEAR, and that's your evidence to the contrary?

Jesus dude very few people outside of the U.S., with the exception of Ford, buy American cars. That's true in Europe, in the UK, in China, in Japan, and in Russia. That's fact, indulging a gentle Google search would show you that.

Again, that's 'very few'; that doesn't mean 0. Of course American cars are sold elsewhere, but the percentages are tiny. Again, excluding Ford. Boy oh boy, thanks for demonstrating your ignorance about the rest of the world.

 

[mdelvecchio]

Why hasn't Apple developed a standardized CPU that can hook up to the things that are common in most cars (Fan, A/C, Temperature, Heated seats, etc.) sell it really cheap, and then just let manufacturers hook up their own screen, high quality or junk if they want to save money on lower end models, and get scale that way? It seems like there's a lot of trouble scaling this at an affordable price...

because supplying auto makers w/ AC controls isnt apple's core business? maybe?
also, the new version of CarPlay lets it just launch an app for that, loads the car maker's app for control that junk, if thats what the auto maker wants to do.

 

[CooKieMoNs7eR]

I have a 2014 CTS myself and yes the Cue system is very slow/laggy, also bluetooth is really annoying as I always have problems with the connection, I literally have to turn the car off and back on for it to work, means if you're on the highway and it decides to stop working then you won't be able to listen to Spotify unless you exit and park somewhere to turn it off/on...still can't believe Cadillac release a car that starts at $48k and has horrible laggy system like this smh...

 

[Sean_Ryan]

Ahahahahaha that link you sent me. 1.4 million cars in a YEAR, and that's your evidence to the contrary?

Jesus dude very few people outside of the U.S., with the exception of Ford, buy American cars. That's true in Europe, in the UK, in China, in Japan, and in Russia. That's fact, indulging a gentle Google search would show you that.

Again, that's 'very few'; that doesn't mean 0. Of course American cars are sold elsewhere, but the percentages are tiny. Again, excluding Ford. Boy oh boy, thanks for demonstrating your ignorance about the rest of the world.

Thats certainly not true in China. They love big cars and they love Buicks. China is likely only reason the brand didn't disappear with the likes of Pontiac and Oldsmobile.

 

[McCool71]

Reliability is a different thing. You wouldn't go to Cadillac for reliability either. You would go Acura, Lexus, Infiniti.

Or Honda, Toyota or Nissan which is what the three you mention really are.

Fun fact: In their home market (Japan, that is) they usually drop the 'premium' branding on most of these models and sell them under their 'real' name. Same car, different names and emblems.

I saw lots of recognizable Lexus and Inifinity models with Toyota and Nissan badges when I visited Tokyo three years ago. It is a bit amusing to think that most people driving something like a Lexus would never ever have bought a Toyota - people are strange

 

[AustinIllini]

Or Honda, Toyota or Nissan which is what the three you mention really are.

Fun fact: In their home market (Japan, that is) they usually drop the 'premium' branding on most of these models and sell them under their 'real' name. I saw lots of recognizable Lexus and Inifinity models with Toyota and Nissan badges when I visited Tokyo three years ago. It is amusing to think that most people driving something like a Lexus would never ever have bought a Toyota

Thanks for that. I wasn't born yesterday.

Everyone knows Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti are USDM. They're also all a lot better.

Take a look at the EDM Civic. It's ten times the car the USDM Civic is

 

[McCool71]

Everyone knows Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti are USDM.

Actually you can buy those brands in lots of countries today - but they started out slapping new names on their higher end models in the US, that is true. And it seems to have worked out very well - mostly nice cars. But I am sure that the vast majority of Lexus owners would never have bought the exact same car with a Toyota badge on it

Usually though (except for in Japan) they will of course not have the 'identical' Honda/Toyota/Nissan model on the same markets as the premium branded ones. Still the exact same models though.

It is always interesting to see what is considered an interesting/great in car in different parts of the world - it usually has quite a bit do with how common they are in that particular area.

I usually visit the US 2-3 times a year and often rent a car while I am there. The looks I get at the rental counter when I say no to Volvos and Beamers (simply because I see those cars all the time here in Europe) is always fun. The high point might have been when Budget tried to give me a VW Passat as one of their 'premium' cars. This is a model that is seen as an utterly boring and common car in Europe.

 

[Stratus Fear]

Or Honda, Toyota or Nissan which is what the three you mention really are.

Fun fact: In their home market (Japan, that is) they usually drop the 'premium' branding on most of these models and sell them under their 'real' name. Same car, different names and emblems.

I saw lots of recognizable Lexus and Inifinity models with Toyota and Nissan badges when I visited Tokyo three years ago. It is a bit amusing to think that most people driving something like a Lexus would never ever have bought a Toyota - people are strange

At least for Lexus, all the models that were USDM called Lexus and JDM called Toyota are now also called Lexus in Japan, since MY2006. I don't think Honda and Nissan have done the same with Acura and Infiniti though.

 

[quagmire]

I have a 2014 CTS myself and yes the Cue system is very slow/laggy, also bluetooth is really annoying as I always have problems with the connection, I literally have to turn the car off and back on for it to work, means if you're on the highway and it decides to stop working then you won't be able to listen to Spotify unless you exit and park somewhere to turn it off/on...still can't believe Cadillac release a car that starts at $48k and has horrible laggy system like this smh...

Have you taken it to the dealer? My dad has no issues with his 4S disconnecting with his 2014 ATS.