... as Apple begins introducing Mac hardware supporting the new Thunderbolt 2 standard ...
Hi, may I know which machine are you using the belkin thunderbolt dock with? I am planning to purchase the belkin but too scared if it might not work properly. Currently I have the matrox ds1 and the OWC Helios. So far both are working well. Thanks.
You can check out my unboxing videos of the two devices here - YouTube.com/Handri
I don't think they are releasing the T2 any more.. I spoke to one of the sales guys at IBC in September and he basically told me they were releasing the T3 instead of the T2. Looks like a neat drive though
My simple Kanax usb3+Ethernet DualRole doesn't work completely with Mavericks. USB is fine; Ethernet driver is missing.
Having one tb-device without passthrough and one external display other than Apple's and you are out of ports. Not very pro.I assume that is why the professional line of computers (i.e. macbook pros, iMacs (sorta), and Mac Pros) come with multiple TB ports. Your average user who would buy the Mini and Macbook Air, wouldn't be as likely to use firewire or ethernet (although the Mini already has those build in).
It's a Barm, not breadcake.
Oh and for the americans - it's Sol-der. Not Sawwwder. Say it how it's spelt, just like aluminium.
Anyway back on topic ... this thing has potential. Shame my monitor doesn't have an HDMI port.
If you check the American pronunciation on dictionary.com or merriam-webster.com, you'll find it's properly pronounced SAH-der.It's a Barm, not breadcake.
Oh and for the americans - it's Sol-der. Not Sawwwder. Say it how it's spelt, just like aluminium.
Anyway back on topic ... this thing has potential. Shame my monitor doesn't have an HDMI port.
If you check the American pronunciation on dictionary.com or merriam-webster.com, you'll find it's properly pronounced SAH-der.
We don't tell you how to pronounce things, yet *we're* the arrogant ones, right? Oh, bollocks. Bloody, sodding Nonces trying to bugger up our language!![]()
Hey, they pronounce aluminium differently because they spell it differently. You lot on the wrong side of the Pennines are worse, you pronounce bread as barm, it's spelt breadcake, so that's how it's pronounced![]()
( Remind me never to order a chip buttie in Manchester!)
No, Apple won't license out the MagSafe connector to third party vendors. Hence why you never see it. No dock will ever have it.
Well, you're already wrong, cause it does exist: http://hengedocks.com
Shame my monitor doesn't have an HDMI port.
I just preordered this for my 2011 iMac, here is my reasons.
1. The 2011 iMac has thunderbolt 1 only, so thunderbolt 2 dock (whenever they are developed) wouldn't help.
2. The 2011 iMac has USB 2, this will allow me to upgrade to USB 3.
3. The 21.5" 2011 iMac only has one thunderbolt port, so I didn't want something that would force the chain to end.
Basically I am using this to add usb3. The other ports with this device are not needed by me as the iMac already has sound. Ethernet, 2nd screen via Apple TV screen sharing, etc.
The belkin dock only goes 1/2 usb 3 speed, for $100 more, the matrix dock doesn't have 2 thunderbolt, which would end the chain. Both are deal breakers for me.
There are 2 other unreleased products, a kanex thunderbolt to usb 3 (ends chain) and a Sonnet dock that looks very capable but very expensive (although it does have DVD/bluray & internal hard drive support., so the cost is justified for those who truly need all the expansion offered.)
Anyway, although I would prefer a cheaper ($224 with cable) usb 3 upgrade, I went ahead and decided it was worth it.
Finally a thunderbolt dock with the ports and a price-point I can get behind.
I wonder if the HDMI port is acting like a passive adapter off the video channel, or if it actually got its own video card? I'm hoping for the former, but I'm not sure how they'd support HDMI and also MDP->DVI adapters on the thunderbolt output.
IMO this makes no sense at all. For $224 you should just upgrade to a newer generation iMac.
I was so hoping this could allow a 2011" Macbook Pro to power two external displays - one Thunderbolt and one HDMI - but the numbers just don't add up. A single Thunderbolt 1 port simply isn't fast enough to drive two high res monitors unless it's at a really low refresh rate.
For example:
Two 2,560x1,600 monitors = 8 megapixels x 3 bytes/pixel = 24 megabytes/frame x 8 bits/byte = 192 megabits/frame.
Not sure how much of that 10 gigabits/second to count on, if we had it all, we'd get 10,000 / 192 = 52 frames per second. And that's 100% ideal, without using any of the other ports.
Bottom line - you really need Thunderbolt 2.0 to handle two monitors at decent refresh rates, especially once you plug other peripherals into it. Better instead to think of these Thunderbolt 1.0 docks as supporting a single external monitor.
The Horizontal Dock for the MacBook Pro with Retina Display allows for three external displays, six USB 3.0 peripherals, two audio devices, an Ethernet connection, an SD Card, a FireWire 800 device and power. Dual audio ports enable switching between multiple audio input and output devices directly from OS X.
BTW He meant it would cost him US$224.00 to BUY the Thunderbolt Station (with cable) from CalDigit. This will enable him to update his present system by adding USB3 using this solution. To purchase a replacement iMac would cost a lot more money, even with a trade in.
At least that's what I understand.
BTW He meant it would cost him US$224.00 to BUY the Thunderbolt Station (with cable) from CalDigit. This will enable him to update his present system by adding USB3 using this solution. To purchase a replacement iMac would cost a lot more money, even with a trade in.
At least that's what I understand.
This was mentioned in an earlier post, not sure if you saw it:
http://www.hengedocks.com/order_horizontal_dock.php
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Yeah, I would think the loss of selling a 2 year old (2-3 revisions behind) iMac would be a good bit more, plus I put a value on my time (for setting up a new machine, etc.). This is ~$200, you connect it, done.![]()
Yes, the dock costs $224 with the thunderbolt cable.
There is no way I could sell a used computer and buy the newest model for anywhere near that price, never mind the time and hassle to craigslist/ebay the used computer.
Of course, for those who frequently replace their computer, I might not be worth it, but I am hoping to get years out of the iMac before replacement.
What about "zed" for the letter "zee"? Or their pronunciation of "aluminum"?![]()
This was mentioned in an earlier post, not sure if you saw it:
http://www.hengedocks.com/order_horizontal_dock.php
Yeah, that dock is nice, but it doesn't help a 2011 MBP, and once you have a retina, you've got USB 3 and dual external monitors. Not saying it's bad, though.
My point about the Caldigit and a LOT of these external things, is by conservation of physics, they MUST have a very strong "you can use these ports OR these ports at once, but NOT ALL OF THEM. (At least not at full speed.)"
There are people in this thread imagining running five USB 3.0 ports, each at 5 gigabits/second, plus a monitor, all off of a 10 gigabit/second TB port. It simply can't happen. And the makers of these things are NOT being honest about it - all they are discussing is what ONE peripheral it can handle...
For example, it can handle ONE HDMI monitor at 2,560 x 1,600, or ONE USB 3.0 port at 5 gigabits/second, but not both, and certainly not several.
I think some people will buy this imagining a certain setup and be utterly disappointed when they find it doesn't work.
By late 2013, with dual 20 gigabit ports going into a hendgedock supporting TB2, you're in really good shape. You still can't use all output ports at once of course, but now you can reasonably have two monitors and a single full speed USB 3 peripheral, plus throw in a gigabit Ethernet and FW800 on the side. I think that's what many people imagine you could do on a 2011 MBP with a single TB1 port.
It would be a significant boost if they DID have their own graphics cards in the adapter - then supporting 3 displays at once would be more plausible. It'd be nice to know max resolutions/refresh rates. But even with an internal graphics card, there's no way al those ports could operate at once at full speed, because that data has to come from your laptop.
It's just like people who bought dual ported USB 3.0 Express34 cards and expected high speed - but you can't run dual 5 gigabit/s ports off a single 2.5 gigabit/second PCIe link.
Ahh, thanks. I was thinking the device would take a USB drive and make it look like a TB drive to the OS. Then it might be suitable for audio applications which need the uninterruptible data stream that FW provides.