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"We're going to do it like no other state has done it."

This is the main problem. All the states should be on the same page. If they were to follow the same pattern/protocol there won't be any delays or hiccups.
No, as long as they follow the standard, they are free to implement it however they wish. They can get creative while maintaining interoperability.
 
I'm hoping "We're going to do it like no other state has done it." just means it will be mandated to be accepted. It would be great to be able to use it at a grocery store or to get into a bar/dispensary.
I use my Arizona one at the grocery store and bars/dispensaries all the time. (We have to use the Arizona MobileID app for these not the Apple wallet) In fact the one place I couldn’t use it was doing an Apple Store pickup.

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So if you're pulled over or in some other LEO contact scenario that they request your ID will it just be your physical ID still? Or if you only have your PHones ID app on your person, will enabling the app ID be locked to that app until you input a pin to get back out?
 
I use my Arizona one at the grocery store and bars/dispensaries all the time. (We have to use the Arizona MobileID app for these not the Apple wallet) In fact the one place I couldn’t use it was doing an Apple Store pickup.

See what’s wrong with this picture?
That's some exsquisite irony.
 
"We're going to do it like no other state has done it."

This is the main problem. All the states should be on the same page. If they were to follow the same pattern/protocol there won't be any delays or hiccups.

Well no…that's the point of a federation of States. Each State has a chance to have local governance that's best for their constituency. What works in rural Wyoming does not work in New York.
 
So if you're pulled over or in some other LEO contact scenario that they request your ID will it just be your physical ID still? Or if you only have your PHones ID app on your person, will enabling the app ID be locked to that app until you input a pin to get back out?
No, right now it's like an RFID connection - they tap your phone and your digital ID gets transferred. So you never hand them the phone. That's how it works in Colorado at least.
 
This Digital ID doesn't understand people sometimes upgrade their Mac/PC about once every 5 years! Like others have said if a user went totally portable and went totally iOS ad in this day especially this day and being stolen, even in College! Even back in my day in College during one party someone stole may new shoes from indoor scorcher shows the orange with black stripes and green soles! My point is in the portable time a permit digital ID IMHO is stupid today!




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Imagine if we allowed states to design their own Stop signs.

In the right scenarios, a little standardization can be a breath of fresh air.



Edit: hey, at least there's some form of standardization happening here...
  • Apple’s mobile ID implementation supports the ISO 18013-5 mDL (mobile driver’s license) standard which Apple has played an active role in the development of, and which sets clear guidelines for the industry around protecting consumers’ privacy when presenting an ID or driver’s license through a mobile device.
 
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This subject is a bit head scratching, puzzling and interesting for myself as I look at my national ID card that also serves also as NHS, tax and social security ID. And voting. It can be used online to sign in to official sites and do digital signatures. But you have to want it and for it's activation. You can also travel to a lot of countries just on that.
Never used it to get a drink, that is mostly a free for all assuming you don't look ten years old particularly when I was younger. Nowadays it's 18 or 16 or whatever.

Driver's license is a different card which only use is just that.

Nothing right or wrong just interesting the different way stuff gets done. Yes, I'm European.
 
"And we're going to do it like no other state has done it."

That's the problem, everyone doing their own thing, :(
Eh, not necessarily a problem. That’s how you get innovation, as long as the systems are compatible at a base level.

Two things I can think of, offhand, that California might want/dp to improve the Digital ID landscape are, (1) something to give more discrete control over the information presented (very much in line with other privacy initiatives in CA) - think of having it show up in Apple Wallet as several IDs (all you), that present varying levels of information, and you choose the one to present, so the bouncer at the club doesn’t get your home address, but the TSA/cops get everything. The simplest one might show a large picture of you, and give your name and age and nothing else (and, of course, its existence infers you are a resident of CA). The more detailed one could give full home address, date of birth, drivers license status (expiration date, classifications for motorcycles/semis/etc) / restrictions (requires adult supervision, needs eyeglasses, etc.), and so on. You show the full one to the cops, you show the restrictive one to the bouncer, waiter, checkout clerk, etc.

And (2), they might be setting up the laws to mandate that the Digital IDs are just as valid as the physical IDs, so, say, a liquor store can’t say, “nah, we wanna see a physical drivers license”.
 
It's a non starter if it's an app. We had several for Covid confirmation. We had one for a museum membership. I got a new phone and how many of those work now? Or you have to 18-factor authentication to get it working again. I don't know how many times I've thought, oh I have the app for that and it's not installed or needs confirmation. Wallet seemed a lot easier, but we'll see. I'll keep my physical DL handy. But I'm old enough I rarely need to show it.

Just looked and my Calif. Vaccination Card for COVID-19 is not up to date (it's in Wallet). Doesn't have the booster I got mid-November.
 
Eh, not necessarily a problem. That’s how you get innovation, as long as the systems are compatible at a base level.

Two things I can think of, offhand, that California might want/dp to improve the Digital ID landscape are, (1) something to give more discrete control over the information presented (very much in line with other privacy initiatives in CA) - think of having it show up in Apple Wallet as several IDs (all you), that present varying levels of information, and you choose the one to present, so the bouncer at the club doesn’t get your home address, but the TSA/cops get everything. The simplest one might show a large picture of you, and give your name and age and nothing else (and, of course, its existence infers you are a resident of CA). The more detailed one could give full home address, date of birth, drivers license status (expiration date, classifications for motorcycles/semis/etc) / restrictions (requires adult supervision, needs eyeglasses, etc.), and so on. You show the full one to the cops, you show the restrictive one to the bouncer, waiter, checkout clerk, etc.

And (2), they might be setting up the laws to mandate that the Digital IDs are just as valid as the physical IDs, so, say, a liquor store can’t say, “nah, we wanna see a physical drivers license”.

The issue here is that (1) has already been solved by Apple. So CA doing their own thing is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and probably won’t work.
 
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This subject is a bit head scratching, puzzling and interesting for myself as I look at my national ID card that also serves also as NHS, tax and social security ID. And voting. It can be used online to sign in to official sites and do digital signatures. But you have to want it and for it's activation. You can also travel to a lot of countries just on that.
Never used it to get a drink, that is mostly a free for all assuming you don't look ten years old particularly when I was younger. Nowadays it's 18 or 16 or whatever.

Driver's license is a different card which only use is just that.

Nothing right or wrong just interesting the different way stuff gets done. Yes, I'm European.
California is the fourth or fifth biggest economy in the world and its population is nearly 40 million. In no way to I mean to imply that Calif. is doing things better, but the scale is different than many countries. But the main difference is that US states have a lot of power that is at the federal level in most countries.
 
So if you're pulled over or in some other LEO contact scenario that they request your ID will it just be your physical ID still? Or if you only have your PHones ID app on your person, will enabling the app ID be locked to that app until you input a pin to get back out?
Did you read the article? They're doing it so the cop cannot take possession of your phone, and showing them the digital ID specifically does not give them consent to go looking through your phone. As well, I believe this is implemented so that, just like credit cards in Apple Pay, you have to authenticate (FaceID, TouchID, or passcode) to get it to display, and it doesn’t fully unlock your phone, it only displays the requested card.
 
This Digital ID doesn't understand people sometimes upgrade their Mac/PC about once every 5 years! Like others have said if a user went totally portable and went totally iOS ad in this day especially this day and being stolen, even in College! Even back in my day in College during one party someone stole may new shoes from indoor scorcher shows the orange with black stripes and green soles! My point is in the portable time a permit digital ID IMHO is stupid today!
WTF did I just read?
 
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