I don't think it's a physical ram issue either as Google Chrome crashes as well. It could be a memory mgmt issue within iOS 7 but i'm not a programmer so that's just a guess.
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iPad Called Apple about Safari crashing on an iPad Air and they told me to exchange to it
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I don't think it's a physical ram issue either as Google Chrome crashes as well. It could be a memory mgmt issue within iOS 7 but i'm not a programmer so that's just a guess.
Chrome shares iOS Webkit with safari, so a lot of low level mistakes are inherited by both browsers.
I think we can all agree that safari has some major problems. I could have safari blow, on my air, up a 100 times an hour by repeating some simple tasks on a couple different sites. But the main quetion you quoted was if the lack of ram is 100% to blame. And the answer is simply that we don't know. What we can discover is that a lot of the blowups in safari can be traced to low memory errors in the logs. Would ram help in that? Yes, to some degree.
With safari being a steaming pile, the more RAM would eventually be used up with the horrible memory leaks in safari. But I am very confident that the user experience would be better wih more ram. All the apple defenders claiming ram isn't the issue, would all agree that more ram would make the user experience better. That alone, and the fact it would have cost apple $2 a device, lets us know what apple values more - customers or cash.
More RAM would mask or stave off the problem but it wouldn't fix it. So, some software tweaking is needed and that's fixable. That's why I still believe more RAM isn't the answer here.
I realize there is an issue though, no doubt there. Not everyone is seeing it and it could even be device dependent which is even more strange.
I suspect iOS 7.1 or whatever we get corrects most of this.
My iPad Air suffers crashes when using both Safari and Chrome. It closes the app and when I return, it asks me if I want to restore the tabs I previously had open. Sometimes the white screen with the Apple logo shows up for a few seconds and then it goes to the unlock screen. This has been happening since I first had it and I've just put up with it until now.
Reading here it seems many people don't experience this but some do. I bought it through John Lewis so perhaps I will contact them and see what they can suggest? I don't expect a replacement, but it seems this should really be sorted out. I have paid for a product that isn't working properly after all.
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Reading here it seems many people don't experience this but some do. I bought it through John Lewis so perhaps I will contact them and see what they can suggest? I don't expect a replacement, but it seems this should really be sorted out. I have paid for a product that isn't working properly after all.
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I hope so.
i'm sure this has been said at this point in this thread, but 7.1 will assuage most everyone in this thread. The 1gb of RAM is sufficient; in the multiple weeks i have been running the 7.1 betas on my rMini, Safari has crashed 1-2 times total. if i freshly boot the device, it can have 3-4 tabs open at any given time without refreshing them as I switch between them. 7.1 is just incredible in terms of smoothing out those earlier bugs.
I would agree.
I never had the crashing issues that I have now. Only after ios7 did I have it with any frequency. And now I have it multiple times a day.
My iPad Air suffers crashes when using both Safari and Chrome. It closes the app and when I return, it asks me if I want to restore the tabs I previously had open. Sometimes the white screen with the Apple logo shows up for a few seconds and then it goes to the unlock screen. This has been happening since I first had it and I've just put up with it until now.
Reading here it seems many people don't experience this but some do. I bought it through John Lewis so perhaps I will contact them and see what they can suggest? I don't expect a replacement, but it seems this should really be sorted out. I have paid for a product that isn't working properly after all.
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I hope so.
I understand your frustrations and no, the product is NOT working as it should be. IMO, they released this new iOS a tad too early without proper testing. That's hard for me to swallow being a software QA guy.
Hopefully an OS update rectifies much of this.
We sure hope so.... The crashing is very annoying and, frankly, embarrassing when giving presentations that rely on Safari to execute web tasks.
I think I will wait for the next software update and see if it improves. If not I will take the device back and see what my options are.I understand your frustrations and no, the product is NOT working as it should be. IMO, they released this new iOS a tad too early without proper testing. That's hard for me to swallow being a software QA guy.
Hopefully an OS update rectifies much of this.
When is the next update due, or is this an unknown?
I think I will wait for the next software update and see if it improves. If not I will take the device back and see what my options are.
When is the next update due, or is this an unknown?
Rumored for early March. So still a month away.
the refresh problem suck on mine, crashin happens quite a lot also. yes i did do a clean install with the latest update,
just took a video of how bad mine refresh, it can probably refresh all night if i were to keep doing the same thing. only 2 apps opened, safari and radio app.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WODr3OfZqp8
just took a video of how bad mine refresh, it can probably refresh all night if i were to keep doing the same thing. only 2 apps opened, safari and radio app.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WODr3OfZqp8
Good. Can I get all those months back where I paid a premium price but was using an inferior product?
Inferior to what? Even a slightly cirppled iPad is still better than any other tablet overall.
Browsing the web on a tablet is the most basic of tasks. So by inferior i was referring to a friends cheap £79 android tablet that browses the web perfectly with no crashes at all.
An iPad that cant browse the web without crashing all the time IS NOT better than a tablet that doesnt do that. Yes the iPad is much better in other regards but I am talking specifically about Safari.
Yeah safari can be a pain but I don't experience the loads of crashing that others are having. Maybe my habits are different.
And honestly not sure how browsing the web on a crummy small android tablet is any better unless your safari really NEVER works.
Chrome has an excellent mobile version. I'd suggest trying that in the mean time, also has data usage reduction technology built in.
Tried it for the first time on a website that always crashes if you scroll before you counted to ten slowly. No crashes yet. Will stick with chrome until safari and Apple fixes the crash mania.
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Using Chrome probably won't fix the issue. IOS Chrome still uses the same underling rendering engine minus the V8 JavaScript engine which makes it inferior.
Rumored for early March. So still a month away.
We are almost there..
iOS 7.1 definitely solves most Safari issues. Some sites do crash Safari, but they are very few and rare to find.
I am happy with Safari in 7.1
Disagree. My iPad 3 is 10000x better at web browsing then the iPad Air I returned. I was even using my antique Motorola Xoom when I had to do something in Safari that I didn't want to lose all my work.
It's almost laughable. If I need to goto another device because what I'm doing is more important that obviously make the initial device inferior. At that specific task anyway.
I'm waiting for iOS 7.1 and may get another Air but from what I'm seeing I doubt I will because of the tab reloading. I'm assuming Android works different (caches maybe?) because on my Xoom I can have 20 tabs open and go between them all with no reloading. Maybe Apple should do something like that.
Here you go I just made this video. This is a Motorola Xoom the very first Android tablet. I'm simulating the following posters video. Pandora in the background (excuse the music) multi tab browsing.
http://youtu.be/utBPbRVpRD8
I even started the tabs scrolled down so you can see going back from the Pandora app doesn't cause any tabs to reload. I'm not sure how Android works but never mind crashing I can't get my iPad 3 to do this either without reloading tabs. It's worlds better then my Air was.