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Camera Roll album? Where did it go?

Razeus said:
Because now I don't have to worry about which device I took the photo on? If I'm on my iPad, I can see all my pictures whether or not I took them with the iPad or iPhone or wi-fi transferred them from my Fuji cameras. If I'm not mistaken, this is how iCloud has always worked since Photostream launched way back when.



The added bonus is that I don't have to manage 2 "camera rolls" in iOS 8 (the original Camera Roll and Photostream)! It's now one big stream of photos. This alone is how it's superior!
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Hey how come I'm showing two copies of a lot of things? Like the phone version and then the photostream version? Do you know what the deal with Photo Stream is now? Is it still only keeping the last 1000? I also heard that the photos WILL now count towards your data storage.

I'm good w change just want to make sure I'm doing it all right. I also find it super annoying that when j open the Instagram app and go to post something I see duplicates of everything!

Thanks for your help.
 
There are many threads already about this topic, seems to be a very annoying one. Hopefully Apple will put the normal camera roll back into iOS, but I doubt it. Very annoyed by this as well.
 
Kinda answered my own ?? Above w link from @razeus. Instead of having camera roll on device, photo stream on all devices (but be careful only 1000!), we now will take pics and they'll just sync everywhere on iCloud. Gone is the limit but gone is the free storage.
 
dewthedru said:
you're more than an apple apologist, aren't you? your comments are condescending and pedantic and offer no room for discourse. we get your point. we're all idiots and haven't figured out how to properly use our phones.

i'll tell you what....pay for my phone and then i'll give you the option of censoring my opinion on my property. until then, keep civil or find a forum that's ok with internet bullies.
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This times a thousand.

Hey "Razeus," can you see your own a**hole from up on your high horse? You have no comprehension of these people's complaints and why they have a problem with the absence of Camera Roll in iOS 8, so just butt out.
 
LOL, I haven't made any comments here in 24 hours and you guys are still whining? I stopped 24 hours ago and moved on. So should you all.
 
Can't have an issue without being told you're wrong, can't like a change without being called a fanboy.

These forums are pathetic.

Clearly this has others upset and I have zero issue with it being added back should apple see fit. That said, I personally don't care about this change, it doesn't affect me. IMO sorting by date is much better than a folder with everything in it. Guess i'm a fanboy right?
 
x3n0n1c said:
Can't have an issue without being told you're wrong, can't like a change without being called a fanboy.

These forums are pathetic.

Clearly this has others upset and I have zero issue with it being added back should apple see fit. That said, I personally don't care about this change, it doesn't affect me. IMO sorting by date is much better than a folder with everything in it. Guess i'm a fanboy right?
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The lack of both civility and consideration that others may just use the device in another fashion that is the issue. Not the the different opinion.
 
cammyg123 said:
There are many threads already about this topic, seems to be a very annoying one. Hopefully Apple will put the normal camera roll back into iOS, but I doubt it. Very annoyed by this as well.
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The thing that I don't get, why remove a function when if was perfect, in iOS 7 you had your Collections/Moments and Camera Roll, making both worlds happy.

And people say "change is good, welcome to 2015" makes me want to punch them in the face, that's not a change, they just remove one of the best features of the Photos.app.

I really hope they will bring it back.
 
nikicampos said:
The thing that I don't get, why remove a function when if was perfect, in iOS 7 you had your Collections/Moments and Camera Roll, making both worlds happy.

And people say "change is good, welcome to 2015" makes me want to punch them in the face, that's not a change, they just remove one of the best features of the Photos.app.

I really hope they will bring it back.
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....to you. To me it was the worst feature.
 
T-Will said:
One option might be to unsync the 16,000 photos from iTunes, then you should be left with the 100 camera roll photos, then manually put those into their own album. Then resync the 16,000 photos.
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An awesome idea, mixed with, and nearly hidden by all the bickering...like a camera roll photo in a sea of synced pics.

<walks off stage amidst stunned silence>
<slow clap starts>
<chant: Cam-ra-roll! Cam-ra-roll!>
 
nikicampos said:
The thing that I don't get, why remove a function when if was perfect, in iOS 7 you had your Collections/Moments and Camera Roll, making both worlds happy.

And people say "change is good, welcome to 2015" makes me want to punch them in the face, that's not a change, they just remove one of the best features of the Photos.app.

I really hope they will bring it back.
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Perfect to you, not to others. As has already been mention the camera roll lead to duplicate photos when using photo stream. This was changed to remedy this issue.

Quote from hasanahmad's "[GUIDE] iOS 8 Photos App" thread.

"Q: Why did Apple do this?!
A: In iOS 7, you had the Camera Roll and Photo stream which had a limit of 1000 photos. The flaw in this design was that even photo stream photos were saved locally so if you had a photo in both photostream and camera roll, you had 2 duplicate photos hogging up space, this is why Photostream took up so much space on your phone. To get rid of this Apple has tried to streamline the process by having your most recent photos in the Recent Photos Tab, your shared folders in the shared tab and your 'backup' photos which are older than your recent photos or are from a phone migration readily available in the Photos Tab. This Photos Tab essentially combines the Photostream and Camera Roll in One and allows you access to save these photos on your phone if you want to."
 
Razeus said:
....to you. To me it was the worst feature.
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Interesting. Rather than keeping all the trees equal by hatchet, axe, and saw, let those who want to, do. Those who don't, simply don't. I might consider going over 100mph in a car a "bad feature." So I just... don't... do it.

If iOS8's new method of handling photos was kept exactly the same except there was still a Camera Roll, defined as a folder containing every picture or video captured by the device's camera and still on-device, and one preferred not to use it, couldn't one simply avoid using it then?

Hyperbole regarding it being the "worst feature." Ummmm.. ok.
 
Razeus said:
....to you. To me it was the worst feature.
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x3n0n1c said:
Perfect to you, not to others. As has already been mention the camera roll lead to duplicate photos when using photo stream. This was changed to remedy this issue.

Quote from hasanahmad's "[GUIDE] iOS 8 Photos App" thread.

"Q: Why did Apple do this?!
A: In iOS 7, you had the Camera Roll and Photo stream which had a limit of 1000 photos. The flaw in this design was that even photo stream photos were saved locally so if you had a photo in both photostream and camera roll, you had 2 duplicate photos hogging up space, this is why Photostream took up so much space on your phone. To get rid of this Apple has tried to streamline the process by having your most recent photos in the Recent Photos Tab, your shared folders in the shared tab and your 'backup' photos which are older than your recent photos or are from a phone migration readily available in the Photos Tab. This Photos Tab essentially combines the Photostream and Camera Roll in One and allows you access to save these photos on your phone if you want to."
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If you are so happy about NO CAMERA ROLL, just move on, and let the ones that are not happy give feedback to Apple, which I did, try to bring back Camera Roll.

One of my previous post..
"Lets say you are on Google, and you download a photo from the internet for a future project on Pages, the photo is in Recently Added, after a month you start you new project, you want that picture, but it's no longer in Recently Added, so you start looking for it in "photos" tab the day you downloaded it, it's not there because the photo's metadata placed the photo 8 months back, so you will have a pretty hard time finding it."

Do you guys don't understand this, tell me how to find this pic fast like in Camera Rol.
 
nikicampos said:
If you are so happy about NO CAMERA ROLL, just move on, and let the ones that are not happy give feedback to Apple, which I did, try to bring back Camera Roll.

One of my previous post..
"Lets say you are on Google, and you download a photo from the internet for a future project on Pages, the photo is in Recently Added, after a month you start you new project, you want that picture, but it's no longer in Recently Added, so you start looking for it in "photos" tab the day you downloaded it, it's not there because the photo's metadata placed the photo 8 months back, so you will have a pretty hard time finding it."

Do you guys don't understand this, tell me how to find this pic fast like in Camera Rol.
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You asked a question ("why remove a function when if was perfect") and I directly answered it. I did not say their solution was better or worse, and did not contest that the feature should not be brought back.

This is not the place to give apple feedback, this is a place for users to discuss things. https://www.apple.com/feedback/
 
I believe the whole reason this was done was because of iCloud photo library, but since that has been delayed until October it has made a confusing mess of the photos app for now.

There's no photo stream album either, so its impossible to tell whats in the stream.
 
x3n0n1c said:
You asked a question ("why remove a function when if was perfect") and I directly answered it. I did not say their solution was better or worse, and did not contest that the feature should not be brought back.

This is not the place to give apple feedback, this is a place for users to discuss things. https://www.apple.com/feedback/
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I never said where I gave feedback, and of course I did it in Apple Feedback.

And LOL for not having an answer to what I said, you sir just made my point valid.

Have a good day.
 
nikicampos said:
I never said where I gave feedback, and of course I did it in Apple Feedback.

And LOL for not having an answer to what I said, you sir just made my point valid.

Have a good day.
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In that context you are specifically downloading this picture for use on a future project. The solution is to create an album for this project in advance and add that photo to said album. After all, you know you'll need one.

The solution to this issue on apples end would be to create a specific automatic album that includes all downloaded photos from safari, email etc. This would be even more convenient than photo roll was.
 
well i'm still baffled, and always have been. photos aren't such a big deal to me so I haven't spent a lot of time trying to figure it out, but after a year on iOS, and 3.5 years on OS X, I still don't know where the photos are, where they came from, where they are going, and where they went.

I don't know if the photos are on my computer, in my phone, or living out in the sky somewhere. I don't know if when it's living in one place, it might decide to move sometime, for some reason. Somehow behind all of this I have this nagging suspicion that Apple wants my photos to pay rent, and that's why they keep moving to some place where they think the sheriff can't find them.

Everytime I update something, the photos move around some more.

Whatever.

Just works.

:eek:
 
Razeus said:
LOL, I haven't made any comments here in 24 hours and you guys are still whining? I stopped 24 hours ago and moved on. So should you all.
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No one is going to "move on" until this obvious problem is resolved in some way, Razeus. Sorry that bothers you so much.

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x3n0n1c said:
In that context you are specifically downloading this picture for use on a future project. The solution is to create an album for this project in advance and add that photo to said album. After all, you know you'll need one.

The solution to this issue on apples end would be to create a specific automatic album that includes all downloaded photos from safari, email etc. This would be even more convenient than photo roll was.
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Disagree. The photo roll is more intuitive because it shows what's ON the device. That's the whole point of the photo roll, and that's why removing it is indicative of a much larger issue. The issue being that Apple expects you to upload every one of your photos to their servers... and also store a copy on every one of your devices. Not intuitive. Not safe. Not respectful of the customer. And ultimately why it didn't roll out as Apple intended.
 
Razeus said:
Oh, I see how you work. You can state your opinion and I cannot. What was I thinking?
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Most people in this thread have not caught on that you are simply trolling for attention.

I haven't yet updated. Between the bad reviews that I've read, on top of HEY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DUMP U2s NEW ALBUM ON EVERY SINGLE DEVICE WITHOUT WARNING!, I no longer trust in the almighty Apple.

Going back to android next time around.
 
what happens once you reach your 5GB free storage limit btw?

if they force me to upload every stupid screenshot i ever take to the cloud i at least expect them to store them all for FREE
 
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