Camera Roll is back in 8.1

[urkel]

Very happy about this. As someone who syncs to Aperture then the "recent photos" would be tripled (Original photo, Photostream copy, Aperture Sync). I turned off Photosync to make photo locations make more sense but it was far from a solution.

Sometimes change is good and sometimes it isn't. So I'm glad to Apple not be so stubborn in accepting that Camera Roll is useful for many users. Now all that's left is make the landscape 6+ keyboard full size rather than that crazy layout with instant access to things like "BOLD" or semi functional arrow keys.

 

[Eckscaliber]

This is good news.

 

[Paddle1]

Have you confirmed this first hand?

Yes.

 

[mattroman246]

thank the gods!

 

[Yun0]

by demand, they listened, thanks

 

[throys]

A simple but useful going back. Recently added didn't make much sense since all we need now is the ability to move pics to folders and without copying them.

 

[navodwickra]

Only for those of you that don't have iCloud Photo Library (beta).



For us, its called "All Photos" instead.

Yes, I think if you have enabled iCloud Photo Library then you won't get the camera roll back.

 

[Yun0]

Yes, I think if you have enabled iCloud Photo Library then you won't get the camera roll back.

u do its just called all photos & its in the cloud as well thats all

 

[lewismayell]

I don't get the deal with camera roll? It's exactly the same as the photos tab but with less organisation

 

[Glassed Silver]

Can't believe they really revert this.

SUPER GLAD THEY DO!

Glassed Silver:mac

 

[load97]

Seems like this thread (mistakenly/accidentally) almost predicted it: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1789774/

A lot of negatives in that thread. Also, Ban the people that were dead wrong. Giving out false info.

 

[jabingla2810]

I don't get the deal with camera roll? It's exactly the same as the photos tab but with less organisation

People like what they know.

Rightly or wrongly.

 

[lewismayell]

People like what they know.

Rightly or wrongly.

But is it really such a big deal, it's not quite no cell service or WiFi dropouts

 

[Padmini]

I don't get the deal with camera roll? It's exactly the same as the photos tab but with less organisation

This is correct. It also ignores meta data, which the Photos tab doesn't. Some people can't handle changes, no matter how much for the better.

 

[Geckotek]

This is correct. It also ignores meta data, which the Photos tab doesn't. Some people can't handle changes, no matter how much for the better.

Sometimes the "organization" I want is exactly the order I see it in the Camera Roll. This is not always available via the Photos Tab due to that metadata.

 

[Chundles]

I don't get the deal with camera roll? It's exactly the same as the photos tab but with less organisation

Maybe so, however it's a folder of only the photos I took with my phone. Putting it back doesn't change anything and leaving it out confuses people. Drove me nuts trying to scroll through three times as many photos looking for an image I knew I took with my phone but couldn't remember where and when.

 

[Padmini]

Sometimes the "organization" I want is exactly the order I see it in the Camera Roll. This is not always available via the Photos Tab due to that metadata.

Well, it looks like going forward, we'll all have both. So, the argument can end.

 

[sodapop1]

This is correct. It also ignores meta data, which the Photos tab doesn't. Some people can't handle changes, no matter how much for the better.

Sure, taking away the ability for someone to simply view all photos in a single view is a change for the better.

 

[heisenberg123]

thanks god

I dont need my photos sorted by apples opinion, if I want all my photos in one folder thats my problem and if I wanted to organize them into albums I use the + to add an album and move them from the camera roll to the album of my choice

 

[Padmini]

Sure, taking away the ability for someone to simply view all photos in a single view is a change for the better.

No one took away that ability. Its all there in the Photos tab, even organized by date, same as the camera roll. Not Date Added, but Date Created.

Lets not start again. An unorganized non-meta grid was never better than the Photos tab is now. Let's just leave it at that. Apple has decided you can all have both. Use what you prefer. So will I.

 

[Muaddib7]

No one took away that ability. Its all there in the Photos tab, even organized by date, same as the camera roll. Not Date Added, but Date Created.

And that is the issue. If I want it organized by date added, then I should have that ability.

Lets not start again. An unorganized non-meta grid was never better than the Photos tab is now. Let's just leave it at that. Apple has decided you can all have both. Use what you prefer. So will I.

Organized by date added is not unorganized. It's just organized in a way you may not prefer.

If Apple gave us manageable filters that allowed us to see only photos on the device organized by date added, I'm sure the complaints would have been less severe.

 

[heisenberg123]

No one took away that ability. Its all there in the Photos tab, even organized by date, same as the camera roll. Not Date Added, but Date Created.

Lets not start again. An unorganized non-meta grid was never better than the Photos tab is now. Let's just leave it at that. Apple has decided you can all have both. Use what you prefer. So will I.

how do you see all your photos not seperated by date, geotag, year in the photo tab?

 

[sodapop1]

No one took away that ability. Its all there in the Photos tab, even organized by date, same as the camera roll. Not Date Added, but Date Created.

Lets not start again. An unorganized non-meta grid was never better than the Photos tab is now. Let's just leave it at that. Apple has decided you can all have both. Use what you prefer. So will I.

I don't want my thumbnails organized by date, period. I want to be able to quickly scroll through them and not be forced to look into sub-folders. What may be better for you may not always be better for other people. You don't seem to grasp that concept,

 

[Padmini]

I don't want my thumbnails organized by date, period. I want to be able to quickly scroll through them and not be forced to look into sub-folders. What may be better for you may not always be better for other people. You don't seem to grasp that concept,

Now you're spreading false information. The Photos tab is not sub folders. Years > Collections > Moments. Leave it zoomed in to Moments. If you never back out of Moments, you are not ever dealing with sub folders. If you have 10,000 photos, you might very well actually appreciate that ability to get back to Collections or Years to actually find something (not mention SEARCH, which is now possible thanks to meta data). All better than infinitely scrolling an unorganized grid.

Just because you 'prefer' the worst imaginable way of doing it, does not make it good or the right way for all.

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how do you see all your photos not seperated by date, geotag, year in the photo tab?

Why would anyone want that? That is the exact opposite of good, and the exact opposite of the proper structure in the Photos tab.

If you need that disharmony, go to Albums tab. As of 8.1 you will have All Photos album, (dis)organized just the way you like it.

(clarification: its called All Photos if you have iCloud Photo Library enabled. Camera Roll if not).

 

[Glassed Silver]

To me Camera Roll is the only sane way of seeing what photos are on my phone or iPad that don't come from elsewhere. (Photo Stream / Aperture Sync)

Having a separate view for what's exactly on my phone with the phone being the source of original creation or saving ("save image to camera roll") is important to me.
Anyone telling me I don't need this and go with the time can do something the word filter would catch.

Also, glad we now have a nice case of precedence we can reference when people say "not going to happen, get used to it". Which is pretty rude and those people should respect there are more use cases than the most bare and simple ones they might have.

Glassed Silver:mac