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Camera Roll is back in 8.1

Yun0 said:
camera roll, time lapse, slow mo

thats the way it should be, SIMPLE, organized, no massive wall with 542132 tiny thumbnails of ur images & a "recently added" folder that empties itself utterly useless when i go back 2 weeks later to find my last "recently added" photo..

please leave it alone now apple..(or add a toggle so whoever enjoyed the other layout can have it)
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There's nothing simple and organised about Camera Roll. Literally the only difference is that the pictures are bigger and not organised by date.

I'm actually disappointed that Apple caved to the whining on this one, people are just resistant to change and made a stink over nothing.
 
kerrikins said:
There's nothing simple and organised about Camera Roll. Literally the only difference is that the pictures are bigger and not organised by date.

I'm actually disappointed that Apple caved to the whining on this one, people are just resistant to change and made a stink over nothing.
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If the Photos tab was simply the old Camera Roll, separate out by date, with all the added whitespace, then you'd be right. There's quite a few replies in this thread so I wouldn't have expected you to read through each one but the new way combined all photos that were taken from the iphone's camera, imported through Aperture/iPhoto, and the general photostream. If you never import through Aperture/iphoto or share a photostream, then I guess your Camera Roll and the "new way" should generally be the same. But a lot of people actually import photos that were not taken by the iphone camera. With the new way, there was no way for me to manage the iphone pictures.

So Apple may have "caved to the whining" but this was not because it was just a visual change, it was a big change in functionality for a lot of people.
 
kerrikins said:
There's nothing simple and organised about Camera Roll. Literally the only difference is that the pictures are bigger and not organised by date.

I'm actually disappointed that Apple caved to the whining on this one, people are just resistant to change and made a stink over nothing.
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You should really learn about the topic before posting, Camera Roll is perfectly organized by the time that a photo was added to the phone, not metadata.

I've said this before.

Lets say you are on Google, and you download a photo from the internet for a future project on Pages, the photo is in Recently Added, after a month you start your new project, you want that picture, but it's no longer in Recently Added, so you start looking for it in "photos" tab the day you downloaded it, it's not there because the photo's metadata placed the photo a year and half back, so you will have a pretty hard time finding it, you'll have to scroll thru 800 pictures just to find the one you want.

Now with the old Camera Roll back, you can easy scroll a few pictures back and find the one you want, easy.

And please, stop complaining, it's not like they took out the Collections/Moments from the photos.app. It's all there, if you want C/M by metadata, it's there, if you want Camera Roll, it's there.
 
kerrikins said:
There's nothing simple and organised about Camera Roll. Literally the only difference is that the pictures are bigger and not organised by date.

I'm actually disappointed that Apple caved to the whining on this one, people are just resistant to change and made a stink over nothing.
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As you may have noticed by now, you are wrong.
 
Apparently, the Camera Roll is a CHOICE.

If you use iCloud Photo Library, the "camera roll" goes away.

http://www.cultofmac.com/298562/resurrect-camera-roll-ios-8-1/

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kerrikins said:
I'm not ~wrong~, I just have a different opinion. :rolleyes:
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Uhh, no. What you stated as fact was clearly proven wrong. Your statement of "Literally the only difference is that the pictures are bigger and not organised by date." is literally wrong.
 
Jesus with so many different areas in photos/videos/slowmo/time lapse/all/icloud/hidden/deleted...

Makes me want to delete them all and never take pictures. What a cluster ****.

It makes me feel like I'm using an Android device. CONSTANTLY I have to help my dad on his LG Flex try to figure out where some file or picture got saved because there's 400 apps that all do the same damn thing, and they all save something somewhere else.

Apple... get your **** together. I do NOT want to use android!
 
BrentD said:
Uhh, no. What you stated as fact was clearly proven wrong. Your statement of "Literally the only difference is that the pictures are bigger and not organised by date." is literally wrong.
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The person replying to me didn't even say that, they just said 'you're wrong', which is highly uninformative and wasn't helpful since it was the first response I looked at in my notifications.

Having read the other responses, I get what people are saying (the ones who bothered to say more than 'you're wrong') but I still think that the impact of this is fairly minimal. Most people do not even bother to sync through iPhoto or Aperture. I'd say 99% of the complaints I've seen have centered around the fact that they just 'don't like it' with nary a mention of any syncing issues or dates.
 
kerrikins said:
The person replying to me didn't even say that, they just said 'you're wrong', which is highly uninformative and wasn't helpful since it was the first response I looked at in my notifications.

Having read the other responses, I get what people are saying (the ones who bothered to say more than 'you're wrong') but I still think that the impact of this is fairly minimal. Most people do not even bother to sync through iPhoto or Aperture. I'd say 99% of the complaints I've seen have centered around the fact that they just 'don't like it' with nary a mention of any syncing issues or dates.
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What you meant to say was that the "impact of this is fairly minimal to me".

And last time I checked, there were quite a few people that have use iPhones, iPads and iPods. I'd be very hesitant to say that most people don't bother to put photos on those from outside sources, including the general folder sync which has been in iTunes for as long as I can remember.
 
DesertSilver said:
What you meant to say was that the "impact of this is fairly minimal to me".

And last time I checked, there were quite a few people that have use iPhones, iPads and iPods. I'd be very hesitant to say that most people don't bother to put photos on those from outside sources, including the general folder sync which has been in iTunes for as long as I can remember.
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No, that's not what I meant at all, otherwise that's precisely what I would have said. I've read and heard a lot about this issue recently and if the date/time issue had been mentioned a lot, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But it hasn't been mentioned at all - this is actually the first I've seen or heard about it, which backs up my opinion that most people are not actually impacted in the way you're referencing. Most people just want the pretty full-icon scroll that they had before back, they don't care about the dates.

That said, it's not a big deal that it was put back, one way or the other. *shrugs*
 
kerrikins said:
No, that's not what I meant at all, otherwise that's precisely what I would have said. I've read and heard a lot about this issue recently and if the date/time issue had been mentioned a lot, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But it hasn't been mentioned at all - this is actually the first I've seen or heard about it, which backs up my opinion that most people are not actually impacted in the way you're referencing. Most people just want the pretty full-icon scroll that they had before back, they don't care about the dates.

That said, it's not a big deal that it was put back, one way or the other. *shrugs*
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I've read various threads where the lack of Camera Roll in iOS 8.0 has been brought up and quite a few of the posts would mention date/time issue. Certainly not in every post or even most of the posts, but more than just even rarely, let alone not being mentioned at all.
 
I'm going to take a step back since we're (including me) getting things mixed up. What's actually being changed is the Recently Added album is being reverted back to the old Camera Roll. The Recently Added album is useless to me since pictures are in a completely random order after restoring from backup/icloud, it includes Photostream pics (which I can view in Photos tab anyways), and only displays the last 30 days (which wouldn't be a problem if there was somewhere else I could view all, and only, the photos I took with the iphone camera).

It's been so long since I used iOS 7 that I can't remember how the Photos tab functioned then so that tab might actually be exactly the same in iOS 8. :)

So the important change to me with 8.1 is that I can now manage/view the actual photos I took with the iPhone.
 
kerrikins said:
There's nothing simple and organised about Camera Roll. Literally the only difference is that the pictures are bigger and not organised by date.

I'm actually disappointed that Apple caved to the whining on this one, people are just resistant to change and made a stink over nothing.
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a Camera Roll is organized its every photo taken with the camera in the order they were taken, and the thumbnail is large enough to find a specific picture

the new way I have to remember the date the photo was taken becasue they madae the thumbnails to small
 
heisenberg123 said:
a Camera Roll is organized its every photo taken with the camera in the order they were taken, and the thumbnail is large enough to find a specific picture

the new way I have to remember the date the photo was taken becasue they madae the thumbnails to small
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The thumbnail size in the Moments section seems to be about the same as in Camera Roll or other albums.
 
Finally! I hate the new way photos work! I can't tell what's on the device and whats in my photo stream.
 
C DM said:
And that's mainly what it comes down to, that and the ability of various other apps that work with Camera Roll to work properly again without having to wait for those apps to change something and update. Really no rational argument against those parts of it.
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Yes. With 8.0 making use of the Photos tab and Recently Added, it's impossible to upload photos taken more than 30 days old to apps like Facebook, Twitter, or (I'm assuming) Instagram. For many users, the removal of Camera Roll is a huge bug. The app developers at Facebook and Twitter may have been working on a solution, but now they don't have to. It will go back to the way it was, and the selfie takers will be happy.

On my iPhone, I just want one place where photos are dumped so I can post them to Facebook or Twitter or send them in a message. I organize them by date or event in iPhoto in my Mac. That's not going to change unless Yosemite drastically changes things.

You're not wrong if you prefer the Photos tab view, it's just not for me. I don't take a huge amount of photos, and after a certain point they get taken off my phone to save space.
 
So now camera roll is all the pics taken on that actual device. Th photos tab is all the photos in the photo Stream? Is this right? How was it working now then?
 
KUguardgrl13 said:
Yes. With 8.0 making use of the Photos tab and Recently Added, it's impossible to upload photos taken more than 30 days old to apps like Facebook, Twitter, or (I'm assuming) Instagram. For many users, the removal of Camera Roll is a huge bug. The app developers at Facebook and Twitter may have been working on a solution, but now they don't have to. It will go back to the way it was, and the selfie takers will be happy.

On my iPhone, I just want one place where photos are dumped so I can post them to Facebook or Twitter or send them in a message. I organize them by date or event in iPhoto in my Mac. That's not going to change unless Yosemite drastically changes things.

You're not wrong if you prefer the Photos tab view, it's just not for me. I don't take a huge amount of photos, and after a certain point they get taken off my phone to save space.
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The issue of not being able to upload old photos in apps was fixed by devs of those apps hours after iOS8 was released.

Update your apps if you are still having that problem.
 
jmantn said:
I can't believe this.

Why on earth do we need a camera roll with iCloud photo library?
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I'll give you a perfect example of why we need it.

The other night I loaded all of the pics on my wife's iPhone into iPhoto. It was about 1,000 photos. They all got added to iCloud, so they were also on my phone.

Today, I needed a photo I took on my phone the day before. I went into Recently Added, which is what Apple thinks can replace the Camera Roll. Guess where my photo from the day before was? Yeah, it was 1,000+ photos up from the bottom.

I want the ability to see the photos I took on THIS device, not ALL of my devices. I have two iPhones, an iPad, and several cameras that all feed into iCloud from several sources. It gets confusing REALLY fast, and it's annoying as hell not to be able to get to photos I just took.

And the best reason? Options are always good. If you don't want to use Camera Roll, don't use it. Maybe you can even disable it, I don't know. I don't ever use that ridiculous view with thousands of minuscule thumbnails, but that doesn't mean they should disable it for everyone.
 
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