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"Overall, the information suggests that the ‌iPhone 14 Pro‌ will offer larger, higher-resolution images with finer details, but at the risk of poorer low-light performance and images that are more susceptible to noise."

This is the ongoing problem. I have been waiting for an update year where they promise an improvement in this area, but we are seeing warnings it could get even worse?!?!?!?!?!?

I am locked into Apple's ecosystem with our family of five. Too hard to leave. Unfortunately at family events, which are mostly indoors with indoor lighting, the iPhone is horrible. Especially if someone (like a 5 year old) doesn't hold perfectly still. Our family with Galaxy and Pixel phones take all of the best shots and share them with us. We do get better movies on the iPhone. I could not care less. I think I could probably take a better picture of a flower outside, or a mountain, or an elk from 200 yards away. Stuff Apple always plasters I their "shot on iPhone" advertisements. Too bad that's not useful in real life.
 
Apple should hire you to design them next phone. Clearly they missed a trick.


I read it was exactly to do the Lens laying flat. Its like the so the Len’s is protected without a case
Well, then they really messed up with the 11pro because the telephoto lens lies pretty flat (it’s the lowest lens)
 
12 megapixels are already a lot for such a tiny sensor. Image quality does not really get better whith 48 or even 108 megapixels. I own a full frame camera and I opted for a low resolution one because of the advantages of large pixels. It is a bad trend to give cameras 48 megapixels just to make 8K and a higher digital zoom possible.

Especially videos at night suffer a lot from a high resolution. The video centric full frame camera from Sony is the A7S III with just 12 megapixels. Those 12 megapixels are perfect for high videoquality at 4K.
Your argument makes no sense. As an owner of a dSLR, you should know this already, but this was already addressed directly in the article.

The 48 MP sensor is considerably larger than the previous 12 MP iPhone camera, and the iPhone will also be able to take advantage of pixel binning with 12 MP output. This should significantly improve low light capability.

Anyhow, while low light capability of dSLRs is great, my favourite feature of full frame dSLRs is the shallow depth of field for portraits when paired with the appropriate lens. So far portrait mode on iPhones just doesn’t look good, at least on anything bigger than an iPhone screen.

I’m on vacation right now and (knowingly) just got fleeced at the resort for US$45 for just 3 pix. Why? Cuz they were taken at f/3.5 with a full frame Nikon dSLR with 50 mm prime lens, with reasonable bokeh, at the pool.

If I put a cheap waterproof cover in the iPhone at the pool it often looks bad (haze), and I don’t want to use a naked iPhone in the pool. And as mentioned, the iPhone’s portrait mode doesn’t look right anyway. I also generally don’t bring my dSLR on vacation with me, and even if I did, I certainly wouldn’t bring it into the pool. It makes me cringe when I see these guys and gals in the pool up to their necks, holding unprotected full frame dSLRs above their heads.
 
Not with this generation, but as future iPhones will presumably all have 8k video as standard do you think that will make the 8k monitor/TV more mainstream? How are we supposed to watch our work in all its glory?

8K also means:

- Being able to crop into parts of an 8K video, so that means even close up shots look much better when exported to 4K.

- playing back a full 8K frame on a 4K screen looks really great if the interpolation is good.

- A lot of 4K movies are fake 4K movies. They are 2K up scaled. So now we can get fake 8K movies that will really be 4K upscaled 😂
 
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If true this looks more fractional and marketing than a real improvement.
Where I would love to see a real improvement is in the software - that would be a real winner.
Nothing showing yet in 16 beta.
 
Are you serious? You don’t see an issue with a tech firm that positions itself as the paragon of security and privacy allowing literally anyone on the planet access to your camera to do with as they see fit? For pranksters to fill your storage with 4K video or bad actors to take unsolicited pictures that are then uploaded to your iCloud account? By all means don’t care but please let’s not pretend it ‘literally’ doesn’t matter.
To be fair it doesn't allow "anyone on the planet", it allows anyone who you give physical access to your device. If you lose it then there are other issues to consider than just camera access.

That being said it would be ideal for them to let you configure this.

Another poor workaround is to restart the phone, lock screen camera access is disabled after a restart.
 
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what iPhone do you have? My experience with the camera on my 13PM is the opposite ...
and what exactly are you expecting from 48MP other than 8k?
My 13 Pro pics are pretty bad and the camera focus hunts badly. My husband’s 13 Pro Max is a lot better so I wonder if some of us got a bad batch, since I recall shortly after release there were a lot of complaints like mine. I shelved my phone due to my pwm sensitivity and use an iPhone 11 and SE3 instead. For serious phone photography, I use Android phones: S22 Ultra and occasionally a Pixel 6 Pro.
 
read the whole thing...you have to install an alternate camera app. not perfect, I know.

Yeah thanks, genuinely. I did read it all and appreciate your help, but it hardly lets Apple off the hook on this. The fact remains they simply do not care who has access to your camera without login credentials. And by extension they don't care who has the ability to upload unsolicited media to your iCloud account. Privacy and security my ****.
 
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Megapixels are largely a huge waste of time/space when you consider the vast majority of images are consumed on mobile devices with far less MP. The only benefit of them, and it's fairly limited, is if you aren't able or too lazy to get closer to a subject to fill the frame.
If you are interested in photography you should know it is not how it works as perspective is a matter of subject distance.
 
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I am interested to see the result of Apple implementation of the 48Mp sensor. Good results at 2x is important for framing freedom. That said, I won’t upgrade my phone this year.
 
My 13 Pro pics are pretty bad and the camera focus hunts badly. My husband’s 13 Pro Max is a lot better so I wonder if some of us got a bad batch, since I recall shortly after release there were a lot of complaints like mine. I shelved my phone due to my pwm sensitivity and use an iPhone 11 and SE3 instead. For serious phone photography, I use Android phones: S22 Ultra and occasionally a Pixel 6 Pro.
People on Reddit have been saying it’s worth going to the Apple store for a diagnostic. You have nothing to lose and if they find something wrong (I have heard some phones may have a defective ISP), you might get a replacement.
 
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"Overall, the information suggests that the ‌iPhone 14 Pro‌ will offer larger, higher-resolution images with finer details, but at the risk of poorer low-light performance and images that are more susceptible to noise."

This is the ongoing problem. I have been waiting for an update year where they promise an improvement in this area, but we are seeing warnings it could get even worse?!?!?!?!?!?

I am locked into Apple's ecosystem with our family of five. Too hard to leave. Unfortunately at family events, which are mostly indoors with indoor lighting, the iPhone is horrible. Especially if someone (like a 5 year old) doesn't hold perfectly still. Our family with Galaxy and Pixel phones take all of the best shots and share them with us. We do get better movies on the iPhone. I could not care less. I think I could probably take a better picture of a flower outside, or a mountain, or an elk from 200 yards away. Stuff Apple always plasters I their "shot on iPhone" advertisements. Too bad that's not useful in real life.
not really sure why they are saying what you quoted as the the bigger the sensor the more light it will provide. It's why some of the best android phones produce such good low light photos. time will tell how much the photos will be improved though but the sensor is getting a massive increase from the current set up.i do agree pixels I think are the gold standard when it comes to family photos though and people in general.
 
If you are interested in photography you should know it is not how it works as perspective is a matter of subject distance.
I’m well aware of that but then you’re using the wrong tool to use a wide to normal perspective and crop in to get a very low quality image. And given the images I’ve seen that people post, perspective is among the last things they concern themselves with.
 
The camera is why I bought my first iPhone, a 12 max pro, and why I will be buying this one the day of release. I bet I'm not alone.
 
I work as a videographer and I can’t believe there is any kind of demand for 8k video on a consumer phone/camera like the iPhone. That’s really odd to me. Maybe it’s just a “the hardware can do it, might as well make it an option?”

At my work, we don’t even necessarily need to submit videos we create in 4k. A lot of what we do is still 1080p.

I actually use my iPhone from time to time to get b-roll footage… currently using a 12 Pro. I’ll be interested to see if the 14 Pro is worth the update with the other video features. I guess just cleaner/better looking video is what I’m after (12 Pro can look really great depending on what you are capturing).
It's called future-proofing.
 
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